First game scores 19 pts hits 2 3's.
http://castrovalley.patch.com/articles/boys-basketball-castro-valley-impresses-in-opener (http://castrovalley.patch.com/articles/boys-basketball-castro-valley-impresses-in-opener)
listed at 6'7 in this article
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on November 28, 2010, 08:08:30 PM
listed at 6'7 in this article
Which means he's likely a legit 6'5 1/2" with the standard height inflation. Wonder if he'll be a redshirt candidate with all the returning experience at the 2/3 positions.
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on November 28, 2010, 09:07:58 PM
Which means he's likely a legit 6'5 1/2" with the standard height inflation. Wonder if he'll be a redshirt candidate with all the returning experience at the 2/3 positions.
Let's not start talking redshirts already. Unless they are UW farmboy big men, that doesn't happen much.
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on November 28, 2010, 09:07:58 PM
Which means he's likely a legit 6'5 1/2" with the standard height inflation. Wonder if he'll be a redshirt candidate with all the returning experience at the 2/3 positions.
Doubt it. Can't remember the last time we redshirted someone who wasn't hurt.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 28, 2010, 09:32:28 PM
Doubt it. Can't remember the last time we redshirted someone who wasn't hurt.
even Junior who was hurt didn't redshirt.
I think Juan Anderson is going to end up being better than anyone on MU's roster right now. Not only am I very high on his athletic ability and skill, but he just seems to go about his business in a way that makes me think he's going to be a big time player.
Quote from: Doris Burkes Thong on November 28, 2010, 09:44:34 PM
I think Juan Anderson is going to end up being better than anyone on MU's roster right now. Not only am I very high on his athletic ability and skill, but he just seems to go about his business in a way that makes me think he's going to be a big time player.
+1
His size and versatility make this kid a stud. Watch his star rise this year.
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on November 28, 2010, 09:07:58 PM
Which means he's likely a legit 6'5 1/2" with the standard height inflation. Wonder if he'll be a redshirt candidate with all the returning experience at the 2/3 positions.
Buzz doesn't like to redshirt anyone, but I think you're underestimating this kid. You can start to get a feel for how Buzz talks about kids regarding their talent level, and he talks of this kid like he did Vander. Very differently than he talked about Otule, E-Will, Reggie, Mello, etc. I'd be interested to know how well Wilson is playing in practice...haven't heard much.
I heard Wilson is playing very well...................
I have no doubt whatsoever that come the 2011-12 BE season, Jamil Wilson will be starting and logging major minutes.
Quote from: Doris Burkes Thong on November 28, 2010, 09:44:34 PM
I think Juan Anderson is going to end up being better than anyone on MU's roster right now. Not only am I very high on his athletic ability and skill, but he just seems to go about his business in a way that makes me think he's going to be a big time player.
How so?
(a serious question...not trying to be a dick. I don't know much about JA, and have never seen him play)
It's common that young men grow during their senior year. Hopefully, Juan Anderson will grow to 6'10" by next fall!
Quote from: Doris Burkes Thong on November 28, 2010, 09:44:34 PM
I think Juan Anderson is going to end up being better than anyone on MU's roster right now. Not only am I very high on his athletic ability and skill, but he just seems to go about his business in a way that makes me think he's going to be a big time player.
Man--let's not give this guy Osccar Robertson credentials just yet. "Better than anyone on MU's roster right now"? Really, I mean really? Take a look at DJO, Butler, Blue, and so on.
I hope he does turn out that way, but until he plays a few years at MU, let's hold off on that.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on November 29, 2010, 07:53:08 AM
I have no doubt whatsoever that come the 2011-12 BE season, Jamil Wilson will be starting and logging major minutes.
samesies.
Quote from: willie warrior on November 29, 2010, 08:57:49 AM
Man--let's not give this guy Osccar Robertson credentials just yet. "Better than anyone on MU's roster right now"? Really, I mean really? Take a look at DJO, Butler, Blue, and so on.
I hope he does turn out that way, but until he plays a few years at MU, let's hold off on that.
We've suffered from over hyping in the past, we are suffering from ridiculous over hyping this summer, and we will suffer from over hyping in the future. Might as well get an early start.
Redshirting isn't our history but looking at roster next season, it may be in the cards.
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on November 28, 2010, 09:07:58 PM
Which means he's likely a legit 6'5 1/2" with the standard height inflation. Wonder if he'll be a redshirt candidate with all the returning experience at the 2/3 positions.
Redshirt??? If he can shoot he will get PT.
How often does a 4-star, top-100 guy come into a program like Marquette and redshirt for a non-medical (i.e., playing time) reason? Let's just say I'd be extremely surprised.
saw this link on the other board. This is a write up of some who saw Juan play recently.
http://norcalpreps.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=444&tid=151071416&mid=151071416&sid=985&style=2
Quote from: downtown85 on November 29, 2010, 11:47:00 AM
saw this link on the other board. This is a write up of some who saw Juan play recently.
http://norcalpreps.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=444&tid=151071416&mid=151071416&sid=985&style=2
That's good news. I would love to see a video of the game
That review would carry some significant weight if that was written by the actual Hall of Famer LarryLegend33. I am going out on a limb and saying it isn't.
One question. Does "Can shoot the 3 from 25" mean he can regularly hit three pointers from 25 ft. or he took one as the shot clock ran out and it went in?
Quote from: MUEng92 on November 29, 2010, 12:11:28 PM
That review would carry some significant weight if that was written by the actual Hall of Famer LarryLegend33. I am going out on a limb and saying it isn't.
One question. Does "Can shoot the 3 from 25" mean he can regularly hit three pointers from 25 ft. or he took one as the shot clock ran out and it went in?
Jabari Brown is a 5*, top 20 kid on scout and espn. If the author of this piece is right, saying that Anderson has "separated himself" from Brown, we're getting a helluva player.
http://norcalpreps.rivals.com/...985&style=2
Some positive observations of Juan from some early season action. No idea who the source is, but I like what I hear.
EDIT: sorry I missed the earlier post on this. Scrolled too fast.
The reviewer at NorCalPreps posted again to say that Anderson looks like he could end up at 6'8"
If Juan Anderson continues to outplay 5 star opponents, when will his ratings go up? After reading the reports on his play, it sounds like MU is getting a tremendous player. And, wouldn't it be nice if he grows to 6'8 or 9 by next fall?
Wow, we are loaded next year. Think we get in the tourney and win at least a game, BUT this is still a building year for 2011-12. Sweet 16 at least next year - can't wait to see juan in the mix.
http://boxofmess.com/2010/11/27/lyrics-basketball-marquette-signed-11-juan-anderson/
Just found this interview with Juan from the other day. Don't think this has been posted yet. Confident young man...
MU loses three players, one coming in will for sure start, Jamil Wilson will be soph next year but in age a junior, one year under
his belt, has experience, knows what to work on this year. Plays good competition everyday, Juan Anderson does not. Juan
will have to be really special to get time next year. Crowder, EWill will fight for power forward time, at the small forward it will
be Wilson and Jones, Blue will get sometime there as well. Anderson will have an uphill battle for at least 2 years. The guard
spot next year will still be DJO and Blue. Again, the bigger issue is how Otule, Gardner, Cadougan, Smith separate them self for
PT time. Wilson at the point, it will be tough to see action right away as well. The team on paper looks good, team chemistry,
who knows. MU still needs another power player, hope Buzz can find that in spring or maybe some 2 guard who can shoot, any
players still on our radar that fits that description?
How about one on our roster in jamail jones?
I'm not sure Jamail has the ability to shoot consistently at this level right now. He wasn't all that consistent in high school either.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on November 30, 2010, 07:50:08 AM
I'm not sure Jamail has the ability to shoot consistently at this level right now. He wasn't all that consistent in high school either.
I've now seen this thought written by multiple people. It contradicts all the reports I read of him in high school as he was known primarily as a mid-range guy who can step out and hit the 3. Below, I've copied an evaluation from ESPN from his Senior season:
December, 2009: This 6'6 Small forward has the size and shooting touch to knock down perimeter jumpers in transition or in a half court offense. He is so impressive because he demonstrates a solid shot selection which enhances his FG percentage along with great instincts on when to take a midrange jumper and nails it with consistency. Jones understands how to spot up from his teammates dribble drives or free himself reading his defender, using the screen and cutting to open spots on the floor. His three point shot is smooth, with good preparation and shot with confidence as he possesses range and accuracy that will bode well at the collegiate level. Jones realizes that he must improve his dribble penetration skills and get lower on his drives to the basket. When you score more points (32) then minutes played (23) against good competition that's special (City of Palms Classic). I had the chance to coach this young man at the Nike Vince Carter Skills academy last spring and he is a hard worker who is humble. Kevin Sutton the excellent head Coach at Montverde Academy and his staff have improved his overall game to another level. Head Coach Buzz Williams at Marquette has a great one coming to the Big East.I get that its different scouts for different folks but the words used to describe Jones, "touch" and "smooth" and "accuracy", typically aren't used for streak shooters.
Why do people feel Jones can't shoot? Is it because he had a bad couple days in a bush league summer pro-am? Is it because he took a hurried shot in his first game as a college player?
Seems to me there is a misconception about this player.
It sounds like Anderson will be very good. Unfortunately he won't be able to fill our glaring need for size and rebounding. Getting dominated inside by Duke and Gonzaga is one thing, but getting outrebounded 31-21 by UWM is really disturbing.
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on November 30, 2010, 08:08:32 AM
Why do people feel Jones can't shoot? Is it because he had a bad couple days in a bush league summer pro-am? Is it because he took a hurried shot in his first game as a college player?
Seems to me there is a misconception about this player.
Having seen him play this summer, I can say he does have a bit of an inconsistent release. The elbow on his shooting arm tends to fly out which led to some really bad misses.
I know he can become a really good shooter. But I'm not sure he's quite ready to take that step because of how much faster the game moves at this level. I see Jones like I saw Erik last year, the game hasn't slowed down enough for him to show what he can do.
Quote from: Jacks DC on November 30, 2010, 08:14:53 AM
It sounds like Anderson will be very good. Unfortunately he won't be able to fill our glaring need for size and rebounding. Getting dominated inside by Duke and Gonzaga is one thing, but getting outrebounded 31-21 by UWM is really disturbing.
wow the pessimism...u dont think Otule and Gardner being a year older and the additon of Wilson will make us a better rebounding team?
Quote from: Canadian Dimes on November 30, 2010, 10:20:14 AM
wow the pessimism...u dont think Otule and Gardner being a year older and the additon of Wilson will make us a better rebounding team?
Of course those things will help, Canada. But the biggest problem for this team now is rebounding and I would feel a lot better about next year's class if we could bring in someone to specifically address that need. Not exactly a novel idea around here.
Quote from: Jacks DC on November 30, 2010, 10:30:21 AM
Of course those things will help, Canada. But the biggest problem for this team now is rebounding and I would feel a lot better about next year's class if we could bring in someone to specifically address that need. Not exactly a novel idea around here.
God's Gift would be nice. I think he is averaging something like 13 rpg in JC so far this season.
Quote from: downtown85 on November 30, 2010, 10:46:36 AM
God's Gift would be nice. I think he is averaging something like 13 rpg in JC so far this season.
God's Gift's averages thru 9 games: 16 points, 12 rebounds, 3.5 blocks
He would look good in a Marquette uniform.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on November 30, 2010, 10:57:04 AM
God's Gift's averages thru 9 games: 16 points, 12 rebounds, 3.5 blocks
He would look good in a Marquette uniform.
Dont get blinded by his stats. The school he plays for (Erie Community College) is in Division 2 of the NJCAA...a lower level of JUCO ball.
By comparison...Howard (Crowder), Indian Hills (Buycks), Hutchinson (DJO) and Tyler (Butler/Fulce) are all Divison 1 schools. Kaylon Williams, the PG for UWM who we just faced, went to Kirkwood Community College, which is Division 2.
Going back further...North Dakota State College of Sciences (Jamil Lott), Southwestern Illiniois (Trend Blackledge) are Division 1 schools. Minnesota Tech (Mike Kinsella) is Division 3.
Quote from: Canadian Dimes on November 30, 2010, 10:20:14 AM
wow the pessimism...u dont think Otule and Gardner being a year older and the additon of Wilson will make us a better rebounding team?
If you look at MU's career rebounding stats and adjust for minutes played, rebounding is an area that is more related to minutes played than improvement with experience.
For example, Lazar Hayward's raw rebounding improved from 3.6 per game as a frosh to 7.5 as a senior. But his minutes increased from 16 per game to 32. Wesley Matthews improved from 4.0 to 5.7, but his minutes increased from 25 to 34. Even Dwight Burke went from 0.8 to 3.4, but minutes increased from 5.3 to 19.3.
The biggest improvement seems to be Steve Novak, who increased from 2.2 to 5.9 boards, but mpg increased from 15.5 to 33.8.
I'm sure someone will find counter-examples, but it sure seems like most rebounding stats are much more closely aligned with minutes played rather than experience.
We might find that if Otule and Gardner get more minutes, they'll get more rebounds--and if their minutes come from poorer rebounders we'll see a team improvement.
Quote from: Marquette84 on November 30, 2010, 12:02:08 PM
If you look at MU's career rebounding stats and adjust for minutes played, rebounding is an area that is more related to minutes played than improvement with experience.
For example, Lazar Hayward's raw rebounding improved from 3.6 per game as a frosh to 7.5 as a senior. But his minutes increased from 16 per game to 32. Wesley Matthews improved from 4.0 to 5.7, but his minutes increased from 25 to 34. Even Dwight Burke went from 0.8 to 3.4, but minutes increased from 5.3 to 19.3.
The biggest improvement seems to be Steve Novak, who increased from 2.2 to 5.9 boards, but mpg increased from 15.5 to 33.8.
I'm sure someone will find counter-examples, but it sure seems like most rebounding stats are much more closely aligned with minutes played rather than experience.
We might find that if Otule and Gardner get more minutes, they'll get more rebounds--and if their minutes come from poorer rebounders we'll see a team improvement.
For a guys like Otule and Gardner, I do think that experience will help them with their rebounding. Otule had a growth spurt in HS and is still actually learning the game of basketball. Gardner, I have to assume, was bigger than most everyone he played against in HS so he never really had to learn how to rebound; he just reached up and got the ball.
Most people think that if you're tall you can rebound, but there's more to it than that (though being tall doesn't hurt). Lazar was a generous 6'6" and he was an excellent rebounder. Dennis Rodman was also a generous 6'6" and he's one of the best rebounders in NBA history. It's just as much about knowing angles, getting position and holding position as it is about height and jumping abilities.
Quote from: MUfan12 on November 30, 2010, 08:54:24 AM
Having seen him play this summer, I can say he does have a bit of an inconsistent release. The elbow on his shooting arm tends to fly out which led to some really bad misses.
I know he can become a really good shooter. But I'm not sure he's quite ready to take that step because of how much faster the game moves at this level. I see Jones like I saw Erik last year, the game hasn't slowed down enough for him to show what he can do.
Thank you for some insight.
Not living in Milwaukee, my time having seen Jones in person is limited. It just seemed strange since coming out of prep I remember a lot of the reports mentioned shooting ability but a few people here had almost brushed off his jumper that it didn't make sense.
Gardner has 19 rebounds in 60 minutes.
Thats not bad for a frosh. Small sample for sure but 9.5 boards per 30 minutes of game action tells me he has the potential to be a good rebounder.
Especially as his body continues to get in better shape.
Quote from: GOMU1104 on November 30, 2010, 11:33:50 AM
Going back further...North Dakota State College of Sciences (Jamil Lott), Southwestern Illiniois (Trend Blackledge) are Division 1 schools. Minnesota Tech (Mike Kinsella) is Division 3.
NO WONDER!!!!!!! >:(