With the season around the corner and no Time Warner Cable in my area, was wondering if those who have DirecTV might know if Full Court or Sports Package is the best option for viewing as many Marquette games as possible.
Is there a college basketball schedule out yet for either Sports Pack or Full Court?
Sports package for $12/month and you will see most if not all the games on MASN, SNY, ESPN or network TV. I have never had to get the Full Court package for MU games.
http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/sched/marq-m-baskbl-sched.html
Sports Pack will take care of you. ESPN Full Court may have one or 2 games that are not on Sports Pack, but they will likely be dog games.
Much appreciated.
Are their college basketball schedules posted yet for the stations on Sports Pack?
Quote from: MarkMiller on November 01, 2010, 01:25:49 PM
Much appreciated.
Are their college basketball schedules posted yet for the stations on Sports Pack?
SNY will be the goto for a lot of MU games, and they have yet publish their 2010-2011 TV Schedule.
I noticed on Marquette's website that many of the early non-conference games are not on TV. Is this accurate? I thought in previous seasons they were all shown on the Big East Network. Anyone know the scoop?
If you live on the east coast, MASN shows probably 80% of Marquette's games not carried by ESPN, even non-con games.
I don't want to hijack this thread, but it seems like an appropriate place for this question. Is anyone familiar with how ESPN3.com works? Time Warner cable just signed an agreement with abc/Disney which would allow Time Warner subscribers to have access to ESPN3.com. Does anyone know if you have to have cable and internet to access ESPN3.com, or can you have just internet? I was pretty excited to be able to watch MU games via Xbox 360 for free, but now I've heard rumors that you have to have cable and internet to have access to ESPN3.com.
You need to have one of the certain providers. Look at the website it explains it all. You can log in remotely. For example I can watch from anywhere but I need to log in with my Comcast username and password
Quote from: MarkMiller on November 01, 2010, 01:25:49 PM
Much appreciated.
Are their college basketball schedules posted yet for the stations on Sports Pack?
Big East games typically on MASN and SNY, often on both.
I can only partially agree with what has been said above. Yes, there are a number of stations in the sports package that do carry a large number of games throughout the season. However, I think you guys underestimate the # of games that won't be found on these channels but will be on fullcourt. I believe the package is $99 for the season (so roughly $25 per month) and I will tell you it will be COMPLETELY worth it when it's february and MU is playing a tough and important Big East game that is on espn full court but not on SNY because say St.Johns or Syracuse is playing at the same time (which WILL get priority on these east coast stations). I have noted this a number of times over the past 2-3 seasons. Take it 4 what it's worth
Quote from: asdfasdf on November 01, 2010, 01:49:25 PM
I don't want to hijack this thread, but it seems like an appropriate place for this question. Is anyone familiar with how ESPN3.com works? Time Warner cable just signed an agreement with abc/Disney which would allow Time Warner subscribers to have access to ESPN3.com. Does anyone know if you have to have cable and internet to access ESPN3.com, or can you have just internet? I was pretty excited to be able to watch MU games via Xbox 360 for free, but now I've heard rumors that you have to have cable and internet to have access to ESPN3.com.
Well, I've got Comcast internet only, and can watch ESPN3 no problem. However, It looks like Time Warner is a special case. This comes up on their login page:
QuoteHow to Get Access to ESPN3.com
In order to access ESPN3.com, you must receive your Internet Service from one of the providers in the list below or connect through a network on a U.S. college campus or military base. Your current network falls outside of these categories. Please select your provider to access ESPN3.com remotely.
Attention Time Warner Cable Customers
In order to watch ESPN3.com, you must receive ESPN as part of your television service. Please select Time Warner Cable from the list below and you'll be taken to Time Warner Cable's web site to verify your account. The ESPN3.com video player will open automatically when you're done.
Now, for those asking about Full Court - if your ISP gives you access to ESPN3, then essentially you get to stream all the Full court games for free. That's what I did last year, and it worked like a charm!
Quote from: OhioGoldenEagle on November 01, 2010, 05:59:12 PM
I can only partially agree with what has been said above. Yes, there are a number of stations in the sports package that do carry a large number of games throughout the season. However, I think you guys underestimate the # of games that won't be found on these channels but will be on fullcourt. I believe the package is $99 for the season (so roughly $25 per month) and I will tell you it will be COMPLETELY worth it when it's february and MU is playing a tough and important Big East game that is on espn full court but not on SNY because say St.Johns or Syracuse is playing at the same time (which WILL get priority on these east coast stations). I have noted this a number of times over the past 2-3 seasons. Take it 4 what it's worth
Last year only 2 games that were not Sports Pack were on Full Court and they were dog games. I just requested the Full Court schedule from ESPN.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 01, 2010, 06:58:08 PM
Last year only 2 games that were not Sports Pack were on Full Court and they were dog games. I just requested the Full Court schedule from ESPN.
IIRC those 2 games were also on tape delay later that night.
While I'm not suggesting others do this, we are trying to cut costs at home -- isn't everybody? -- so I called to cancel the Sports Pack from Direct TV. It's 12.99/month and figured it was an easy way to save a few bucks, even though I'd miss all the MU games carried on MASN, SNY, etc. The rep then offered the Sports Pack for 2.99/month for 6 months (thru April) so I kept it. Again, not suggesting others do this, I'm just sayin'...........
ESPN3.com is the superior choice IF all of the following apply to you:
1) Your ISP provides ESPN3 service (AT&T, Comcast, Time Warner, Charter all do)
2) You have a laptop or desktop computer that you can (and are willing to) hook up to your TV.
3) Said computer was purchased within the last year or two or has at least a 2.4GHz processor and a video card can output an HD signal (1920x1080 is preferred, but 1280x720 should do just fine -- check your user manual or the product spec sheet).
4) Your broadband speed is a steady 3MB/s down - which means you will likely need a 4MB/s service or higher.
If all of the above apply and you buy a sports package or second tier of service just for MU games, then please PM me for my offerings of cheap oceanfront property in Utah.
You can still get ESPN3 if you meet 1 and 2 above but are borderline for 3 and 4; however, the quality of the picture may not be much better than you'd fine on a torrent or p2p service somewhere.
Not only will ESPN3 give you Marquette hoops all season, you'll be able to watch in near-HD quality if the game is produced in HD. I've been watching NCAAF games on ESPN3 and the quality has been great... can't wait for hoops to start.
Depending upon where you live ESPN3 will blackout games, so for the fan that needs to watch every game a sports package may be necessary.
My recollection is different....i do not recall a single time last year when there was a game on full court that could not be watched simultaneously on SNY, MAsn, etc. My recollection was the year before there was 1 or 2.
Also, maybe even more importantly the sports pack runs $11 a month so u pay 55 or 66 dollars....AND the Sportspac provides ESPNU. 3 years ago i shelled out $99 or whatever and Mu had 3-4-5 games on ESPN and i had to shell out the additonal $66 to watch those 3-4 games.
Again I may be wrong and maybe I watched those games on ESPN3 but i dont recall any MU games being kipped on the sportspack.
One other Key point i forgot to mention the games on SNY< MASN etc. are in HD the games on full court remind me of watching a game in 1973.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 01, 2010, 06:58:08 PM
Last year only 2 games that were not Sports Pack were on Full Court and they were dog games. I just requested the Full Court schedule from ESPN.
I can't remember which ones they were, but what "dog" games are you referring to? Nonconference? I'm positive there was at least 1 Big East game that was only on the FullCourt package (and note, I am not a Directv salesperson).
I do also remember a time that MU was on SNY directly AFTER another Big East sat or sun early game. The other game went long and then into OT, so the MU game wasn't picked up til late in the 1st half. I simply switched to the channel on FullCourt package
Quote from: OhioGoldenEagle on November 03, 2010, 12:35:56 PM
I can't remember which ones they were, but what "dog" games are you referring to? Nonconference? I'm positive there was at least 1 Big East game that was only on the FullCourt package (and note, I am not a Directv salesperson).
I do also remember a time that MU was on SNY directly AFTER another Big East sat or sun early game. The other game went long and then into OT, so the MU game wasn't picked up til late in the 1st half. I simply switched to the channel on FullCourt package
My memory was they were non-conference games.
I spoke to ESPN yesterday, should have a schedule in the next day or so.
Do yourself a favor and get dish....the sports pack is 7 a month and you'll save money on your package as well as receiver costs. Dish has a patent on their tuner, which allow 1 box to control 2 tvs. I've had both and after its said and done you save close to 20 dollars a month....that is if you can live without FX.
actually i have DISH, i was thinking the cost was 11 a month if only $7 then all the better ....after having full court for a few years i found absolutely zero reason to have it instead of the sports pac which alos includes tons of other sports channels.
And as i said the picture is 100X better
Quote from: esotericmindguy on November 03, 2010, 12:56:10 PM
Do yourself a favor and get dish....the sports pack is 7 a month and you'll save money on your package as well as receiver costs. Dish has a patent on their tuner, which allow 1 box to control 2 tvs. I've had both and after its said and done you save close to 20 dollars a month....that is if you can live without FX.
And the Sunday Ticket, and the march madness package, and the service quality of DirecTv...not trying to be a honk for D'TV, but it's frackin' epic for a sports fan not living in their home market.
Quote from: reinko on November 03, 2010, 01:28:11 PM
And the Sunday Ticket, and the march madness package, and the service quality of DirecTv...not trying to be a honk for D'TV, but it's frackin' epic for a sports fan not living in their home market.
There is a reason why DISH has lost subscribers off and on the last 8 quarters and DIRECTV has had positive growth 10 straight years, 40 straight quarters.....but you get what you pay for (I loved Canadian Dimes 100X better picture comment...too bad Consumer Reports says otherwise)
Another gripe I have regarding the Full Court package....most of the games are not in HD. The sports package route has all required stations in HD broadcast.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 03, 2010, 02:07:36 PM
(I loved Canadian Dimes 100X better picture comment...too bad Consumer Reports says otherwise)
I am pretty sure he was comparing the difference between full court and SNY/MASN HD pictures.
Quote from: Canadian Dimes on November 02, 2010, 01:46:08 PM
One other Key point i forgot to mention the games on SNY< MASN etc. are in HD the games on full court remind me of watching a game in 1973.
Quote from: SaintPaulWarrior on November 03, 2010, 02:10:13 PM
I am pretty sure he was comparing the difference between full court and SNY/MASN HD pictures.
Fair enough. No argument there as the feeds are so different in so many ways (how they are sourced, delivered, etc)
Exactly...the Full Court package from ESPN are rarely broadcasted in HD.
The program has to be offered in HD, most CBB games aren't...as much as well love CBB it isn't a huge national draw til tourney time. I remember some ESPN2 games last year that were in standard definition.
As for dish vs. direct tv....you're right on the sports packages but I guess being in MN 90% of the packer games are on network television. I love dish, they've been really good to me...my guess on growth is directly related to the growth of the NFL and the sunday ticket. The way I see it you pay 20 more dollars for the same product.
OK, well I have the sportspackage but have been ordering the FullCourt as well, and the consensus here seems to be that the FullCourt package is not necessary? I would like to see this season's lineup first, but it would be hella cool to be able to cancel the $100 fullcourt package and know I can view essentially all MU games this season!
Could someone who has dish network tell me does the $7 sports package get you the MU games or do you also need the full court package?
Quote from: westcoastwarrior on November 03, 2010, 02:40:28 PM
Exactly...the Full Court package from ESPN are rarely broadcasted in HD.
Actually, none of them are in HD through the package. ESPN has to deliver the same package to every MSO which is why they take the lowest common denominator.
Looked up individual dates in early to mid-November on the SNY TV Schedule: http://web.sny.tv/schedule/index.jsp
The certain days MU plays or other teams play for that matter, they just list it as "College Basketball".
I apologize as I am on a plane using iPhone....the schedule I just saw shows MU on Full Court 7 times this year.
I counted very quickly so it could be offa game or two.
A few dog games and I think 4 Big East games
Edit...make that 9 games
6 in the Big East and 3 dogs
BIG EAST 6 Fri 11/12/2010 9:00 PM Prairie View A&M Marquette
BIG EAST 21 Wed 11/17/2010 9:00 PM Wisconsin-Green Bay Marquette
BIG EAST 66 Tue 12/7/2010 9:00 PM Texas A&M Corpus Christi Marquette
BIG EAST 151 Wed 1/5/2011 7:30 PM Marquette Rutgers
BIG EAST 165 Sat 1/8/2011 2:00 PM Marquette Pittsburgh
BIG EAST 266 Sat 1/22/2011 7:00 PM Marquette Notre Dame
BIG EAST 290 Tue 1/25/2011 9:00 PM Connecticut Marquette
BIG EAST 519 Sun 2/27/2011 4:00 PM Providence Marquette
BIG EAST 473 Sat 2/19/2011 9:00 PM Seton Hall Marquette
(I'm resurrecting this instead of making a new thread...)
I had to leave the UWGB game early and was disappointed that the game was blacked out on both SNY and MASN. My DirecTV DVR was "recording" the blank screen telling me the event was blacked out, which I thought was odd. I cancelled the recording and went about listening to Homer. (Oh, first I complained on Twitter, naturally :))
ANYWAY, a few days later I was cleaning out the DVR and saw the partial recording. I clicked "Play", but instead of the blank screen, I saw the first part of the game.
Since it seems like the signal is actually coming in, how long do I need to wait before I can watch the previously blacked out recording? Just after the game ends? Can I watch it on a delay?
I'm hoping our resident expert Chicos has some information.
Thanks!
If memory serves, that game was not on live but was played on delay via one of the channels. Are you sure you just didn't record the delayed showing?
I wish I would have looked closer.
The game was on pretty close to live, since I got the searching-due-to-black-out message during the game.
That I had managed to catch a replay was my first thought, too. The only reason I'm not sure one way or the other is that the recording was truncated at like 40 minutes, which would have been about the time we got home from the BC.
If it's blacked out for the UWM game, I'll be more diligent about watching which recording it is. It'd be neat if D* obeyed the letter of the law and let me watch on a 30 minute delay :)
I was able to watch first 8 minutes of green bay game before it was blocked out. I think it was masn. The game before mu went ot or something like that and it took awhile to get blacked out. Sny was blacked out from the beginning. I live in Jefferson county and am closer to Madison than Milwaukee but was told I had to take milwaukee locals which appears to have screwed me for time warner games.
Quote from: d6 on November 02, 2010, 10:45:48 AM
While I'm not suggesting others do this, we are trying to cut costs at home -- isn't everybody? -- so I called to cancel the Sports Pack from Direct TV. It's 12.99/month and figured it was an easy way to save a few bucks, even though I'd miss all the MU games carried on MASN, SNY, etc. The rep then offered the Sports Pack for 2.99/month for 6 months (thru April) so I kept it. Again, not suggesting others do this, I'm just sayin'...........
This type of thing just pisses me off. There should be one price and it should be their best price, period. Calling to get a better price is just stealing from everyone else that does not call. They did this when I canceled NFL ticket. They offered me a much reduced rate to stay with them. I told them to pound sand on NFL ticket. I too canceled my Sports Pack and was not offered a cheaper rate, in fact had to pay a $10 cancellation fee. Drives me nuts.
Quote from: SERocks on November 27, 2010, 10:06:05 AM
This type of thing just pisses me off. There should be one price and it should be their best price, period. Calling to get a better price is just stealing from everyone else that does not call. They did this when I canceled NFL ticket. They offered me a much reduced rate to stay with them. I told them to pound sand on NFL ticket. I too canceled my Sports Pack and was not offered a cheaper rate, in fact had to pay a $10 cancellation fee. Drives me nuts.
Who is your provider? You only pay a $10 cancellation fee from DIRECTV if you have had the service less than a month.
In terms of the "save" offer of $2.99 per month, I have to tell you I'd be shocked to see that. I'm aware of a $5 off Sports Pack "save offer" for certain customers if they meet certain qualifications but not aware of a $2.99 offer. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist in our system but the agents shouldn't be using it.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 27, 2010, 10:41:48 AM
Who is your provider? You only pay a $10 cancellation fee from DIRECTV if you have had the service less than a month.
In terms of the "save" offer of $2.99 per month, I have to tell you I'd be shocked to see that. I'm aware of a $5 off Sports Pack "save offer" for certain customers if they meet certain qualifications but not aware of a $2.99 offer. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist in our system but the agents shouldn't be using it.
DIRECTV is my provider. I signed up for Sports Pack since it was advertising the MU games. Then when I tried to tape the game I got the blackout screen instead of the game, so I immediately called and canceled. No sense paying for something that won't even give me what I ordered it for in the first place. I think there was a three day lag between ordering online and having to call in to cancel. Pain in the butt. The customer rep I talked to was less than helpful when I suggested they should indicate online that the games might be blacked out. She said sometimes DIRECTV doesn't even know till the day before or day of or something like that. Anyway....beginning to dislike DIRECTV, but the others are worse, so lesser of the evils I guess.
Will any MU game be shown on SNY this year in eastern WI? I have Directv and live in Sheboygan Falls. Time Warner does not offer cable here yet it seems like the blackout for SNY/MU games covers the entire eastern part of WI. Does not make any sense to me expecially when I cannot even get Time Warner.
The games not on time Warner will be on. They have ten I think. I feel your pain.
Quote from: injuryBug on November 27, 2010, 03:48:36 PM
Will any MU game be shown on SNY this year in eastern WI? I have Directv and live in Sheboygan Falls. Time Warner does not offer cable here yet it seems like the blackout for SNY/MU games covers the entire eastern part of WI. Does not make any sense to me expecially when I cannot even get Time Warner.
MU and Time Warner will say a big "TOO F'ING BAD". Honestly, that's the situation. Even in areas they don't control, you're screwed. They have bought up the rights to protect those areas, even in some where they don't offer service (which sucks).
Quote from: SERocks on November 27, 2010, 11:08:57 AM
DIRECTV is my provider. I signed up for Sports Pack since it was advertising the MU games. Then when I tried to tape the game I got the blackout screen instead of the game, so I immediately called and canceled. No sense paying for something that won't even give me what I ordered it for in the first place. I think there was a three day lag between ordering online and having to call in to cancel. Pain in the butt. The customer rep I talked to was less than helpful when I suggested they should indicate online that the games might be blacked out. She said sometimes DIRECTV doesn't even know till the day before or day of or something like that. Anyway....beginning to dislike DIRECTV, but the others are worse, so lesser of the evils I guess.
If you don't live in Eastern Wisconsin, then that was likely the only game you are going to miss. If you do live in Eastern Wisconsin, then yes, no point in you purchasing Sports Pack because they games will be blacked out.
Yes on the $10 fee because we have to pay those fees to the Sports Channels, HBO, Showtime, etc whenever a premium is cancelled within 30 days (you said you had it for 3 days). In the old days customers would call up, add service and watch the game, then cancel that night. They would receive a prorated bill for 1/30th (days) of service for that Premium package. Well, that became an accounting nightmare for us and the programmers so it was ended (just as it is with just about every other MSO out there).
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 27, 2010, 07:16:05 PM
If you don't live in Eastern Wisconsin, then that was likely the only game you are going to miss. If you do live in Eastern Wisconsin, then yes, no point in you purchasing Sports Pack because they games will be blacked out.
Yes on the $10 fee because we have to pay those fees to the Sports Channels, HBO, Showtime, etc whenever a premium is cancelled within 30 days (you said you had it for 3 days). In the old days customers would call up, add service and watch the game, then cancel that night.
Yes on SE Wisconsin, so it made no sense for me to keep it once I knew the games were blacked out. Last year they were not (if I recall correctly) so I did not consider it before I ordered. And I agree that the fee makes sense for the reasoning you stated. Sucks being the guy not scamming the system and hosed by the fee, but that is SOP.
Correct, last year TWC was not enforcing their exclusivity as they are this year.
I live in Charter Cable territory and don't have the option of subscribing to TWC. However, I am being affected by their blackout of SNY, MASN and ESPN3 when games are televised by TWS32. I don't believe TWC enforcing a blackout in area where they don't service is right, as it only creates bad blood.
I sent them an email explaining how I felt. I encourage you to do the same. If they get enough feedback, it may get their attention.
https://www.timewarnercable.com/Wisconsin/support/email.ashx
Can anyone confirm whether or not Madison is included in the Time Warner blackout area?
In other words, have games televised by Time Warner Sports 32 also been televised live by SNY or MASN in Madison? So far this season, those games have been blacked out in Waukesha County for viewers of SNY and MASN. I was wondering where the boundary of the blackout zone existed.
Thanks.
Quote from: 94Warrior on January 03, 2011, 01:12:42 PM
Can anyone confirm whether or not Madison is included in the Time Warner blackout area?
In other words, have games televised by Time Warner Sports 32 also been televised live by SNY or MASN in Madison? So far this season, those games have been blacked out in Waukesha County for viewers of SNY and MASN. I was wondering where the boundary of the blackout zone existed.
Thanks.
The area in black is affected with blackouts
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Now I have to figure out if Madison is in the black or the blue. LOL! Any guesses?
Quote from: 94Warrior on January 03, 2011, 02:51:36 PM
Now I have to figure out if Madison is in the black or the blue. LOL! Any guesses?
Madison is always blue.
just added the Sports Pack just like every other year since TWC got exclusive local rights >:( , last year D* gave it me me for free - $5/month this year which is alot cheaper than the option of watching it at a bar ;D
I'm assuming if I'm in Milwaukee it will be blacked out on both SNY and full court right?
Quote from: MuMark on January 05, 2011, 04:22:51 PM
I'm assuming if I'm in Milwaukee it will be blacked out on both SNY and full court right?
You should be, but you might get lucky.
Has anyone tried using a proxy server with ESPN3 to circumvent a blackout?
Tonight's game was NOT blacked out in Waukesha Co. All of the non-conference games have been. Not sure I understand why, but I'll take it. It was televised on SNY, MASN and Altitude.
It looks like Saturday will be on SNY HD.
Game was not blacked out in Milwaukee county either :)
Quote from: Benny B on January 05, 2011, 05:04:19 PM
Has anyone tried using a proxy server with ESPN3 to circumvent a blackout?
I was unsuccessful with freeware software proxy servers.
I don't have access to a box outside of MKE to run my own proxy on to give it a more serious try, though. There's no reason that it wouldn't work if we could tunnel and port forward from a machine in a region that isn't blacked out, but I don't know anyone that has enough bandwidth for that to work for more than 1 individual.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on January 06, 2011, 03:26:10 PM
I was unsuccessful with freeware software proxy servers.
I don't have access to a box outside of MKE to run my own proxy on to give it a more serious try, though. There's no reason that it wouldn't work if we could tunnel and port forward from a machine in a region that isn't blacked out, but I don't know anyone that has enough bandwidth for that to work for more than 1 individual.
Tell us more poindexter.
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Quote from: reinko on January 06, 2011, 03:43:33 PM
Tell us more poindexter.
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I hope that your computer suddenly stops working.
Boom! Roasted!