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Title: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: PBRme on October 21, 2010, 10:11:43 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/onthetrail

Post this morning says we are still one of 4 for QMILL
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: TheFarEastMovement on October 21, 2010, 10:17:22 AM
If Lebryan Nash commits to Baylor, could it have an affect on Quincy Miller's decision? Maybe this might sway our way, especially with Louisville overloaded.
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: MU_Iceman on October 21, 2010, 10:18:25 AM
If there's any truth to the rumor that Bello and Miller want to play together next year, then I'd say it's a safe bet that we're out seeing as how they're announcing together and, according to this report, Bello doesn't consider MU one of his finalists...

Oh well, we all knew Quincy was a stretch...I just hope to God he doesn't end up in L'ville too...
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: HoopsMalone on October 21, 2010, 10:23:58 AM
Quote from: MU_Iceman on October 21, 2010, 10:18:25 AM
Oh well, we all knew Quincy was a stretch...I just hope to God he doesn't end up in L'ville too...

Or we do want him there as it would make Hood more likely to come. 
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: MarkCharles on October 21, 2010, 10:25:52 AM
Quote from: TheFarEastMovement on October 21, 2010, 10:17:22 AM
If Lebryan Nash commits to Baylor, could it have an affect on Quincy Miller's decision? Maybe this might sway our way, especially with Louisville overloaded.

I'd say it could, but maybe not in the way you are hoping.

A player like Miller knows he will only be at school for one year, and is not worried one bit about playing time. He isn't worried about fighting for playing time, he just wants the best players around him. So, I'd say Nash committing to Baylor might make Miller more likely to choose them.
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: NersEllenson on October 21, 2010, 10:30:07 AM
The fact that Bello is down to Baylor and Louisville...and the same had been written about Quincy Miller earlier this week...just don't see any way MU gets Miller.  I'd be very surprised if Bello and Miller DON'T go to the same school...and my guess is Baylor.  My take..ESPN is trying to add some drama to the selection to increase viewership....and thereby included Oklahoma and MU as possibilities for Miller..
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: HoopsMalone on October 21, 2010, 10:30:34 AM
Ya, Baylor is the common denominator here.  They could be trying to act like the Heat with a big 3.
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: TallTitan34 on October 21, 2010, 10:33:28 AM
"Next fall, this is very tough, next fall I'm going to take my talents to South Beach Waco, Texas and join the Miami Heat Baylor Bears."
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: mu-rara on October 21, 2010, 10:36:46 AM
Quote from: MarkCharles on October 21, 2010, 10:25:52 AM
I'd say it could, but maybe not in the way you are hoping.

A player like Miller knows he will only be at school for one year, and is not worried one bit about playing time. He isn't worried about fighting for playing time, he just wants the best players around him. So, I'd say Nash committing to Baylor might make Miller more likely to choose them.

I thought we were a monolith against one and done?
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: foreverwarriors on October 21, 2010, 10:46:14 AM
Jeff Goodman at fox sports reported earlier today that Pitino and Louisville pulled out (heheheh) of the Miller sweepstakes

http://twitter.com/goodmanonfox
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: TheFarEastMovement on October 21, 2010, 10:50:05 AM
Does anybody know how many open scholarships Baylor has? This maybe a long shot but Q-Mill coming to Marquette would put us in the Driver's Seat for Championship.
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: shiloh26 on October 21, 2010, 10:52:21 AM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 21, 2010, 10:33:28 AM
"Next fall, this is very tough, next fall I'm going to take my talents to South Beach Waco, Texas and join the Miami Heat Baylor Bears."

Doesn't have quite the same ring to it.
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: MarkCharles on October 21, 2010, 10:53:39 AM
Quote from: foreverwarriors on October 21, 2010, 10:46:14 AM
Jeff Goodman at fox sports reported earlier today that Pitino and Louisville pulled out (heheheh) of the Miller sweepstakes

http://twitter.com/goodmanonfox

Thats what their board was saying the other day. Of course now that they are out of it for him, he is dirty and asking for money. I don't see any way he doesn't choose Baylor, which is fine by me.
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: MarkCharles on October 21, 2010, 10:56:24 AM
I think MU is completely out of it for Miller, but it is only a positive to be mentioned as a finalist for a player of his caliber. It would be cool if at the announcement, there was a Marquette hat sitting in front of him.
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: Thomas' Danish Delight on October 21, 2010, 11:02:14 AM
Quote from: MarkCharles on October 21, 2010, 10:56:24 AM
I think MU is completely out of it for Miller, but it is only a positive to be mentioned as a finalist for a player of his caliber. It would be cool if at the announcement, there was a Marquette hat sitting in front of him.

I don't expect anyone committing to Marquette today, but how dope would it be if Buzz pulls another TADA outta no where and BAM we get both Bello and Miller?!

Not gonna happen, I know, but it'd be RE-DIC if it did.
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: TallTitan34 on October 21, 2010, 11:20:25 AM
I predict the Baylor sweep.
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: thanooj on October 21, 2010, 11:22:30 AM
Quote from: foreverwarriors on October 21, 2010, 10:46:14 AM
Jeff Goodman at fox sports reported earlier today that Pitino and Louisville pulled out (heheheh) of the Miller sweepstakes
http://twitter.com/goodmanonfox
+1 chuckle
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: ceh on October 21, 2010, 11:25:10 AM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 21, 2010, 11:20:25 AM
I predict the Baylor sweep.

Agreed, seems like they are the common denominator...
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: texaswarrior74 on October 21, 2010, 11:32:05 AM
There's stink all over the Baylor program...a number of top local HS coaches won't let their kids even talk to them because of the way Drew recruits and looking out for their kids futures. The rest of the Big 12 coaches have been screaming "foul" for a while....supposedly Drew has very "deep pockets..."

Bello and Miller have been saying all along that they are a "package" and Baylor is the only common school....ding ...ding...ding...if this is how you get them I am hoping that we are not the winners in this one.

Have you ever been to Waco?.....not the place you'd expect to see so many top recruits "wanting" to play ball.....VERY conservative Southern Baptist school in a VERY conservative little town....not going to say more here.

From what I'm hearing the NCAA is about to be all over them again....and repeat offenders, not named Kentucky, usually don't have much luck when they are investigated twice in such a short time.

Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: NersEllenson on October 21, 2010, 11:38:51 AM
Quote from: texaswarrior74 on October 21, 2010, 11:32:05 AM
There's stink all over the Baylor program...a number of top local HS coaches won't let their kids even talk to them because of the way Drew recruits and looking out for their kids futures. The rest of the Big 12 coaches have been screaming "foul" for a while....supposedly Drew has very "deep pockets..."

Bello and Miller have been saying all along that they are a "package" and Baylor is the only common school....ding ...ding...ding...if this is how you get them I am hoping that we are not the winners in this one.

Have you ever been to Waco?.....not the place you'd expect to see so many top recruits "wanting" to play ball.....VERY conservative Southern Baptist school in a VERY conservative little town....not going to say more here.

From what I'm hearing the NCAA is about to be all over them again....and repeat offenders, not named Kentucky, usually don't have much luck when they are investigated twice in such a short time.


I second all of the above thoughts, though I do not have direct ties to Houston basketball coaches.  Waco is almost the LAST place an African American would want to live..I'll be more blunt.  It is old school Texas..and extremely conservative..and I mean that in the fanatical way.  It is a basically an armpit..NOTHING to do, unles syou want to get in your car and drive 1.5 hours to Austin or Dallas (which are pretty great!)
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on October 21, 2010, 11:56:48 AM
Quote from: texaswarrior74 on October 21, 2010, 11:32:05 AM
There's stink all over the Baylor program...a number of top local HS coaches won't let their kids even talk to them because of the way Drew recruits and looking out for their kids futures. The rest of the Big 12 coaches have been screaming "foul" for a while....supposedly Drew has very "deep pockets..."

Bello and Miller have been saying all along that they are a "package" and Baylor is the only common school....ding ...ding...ding...if this is how you get them I am hoping that we are not the winners in this one.

Have you ever been to Waco?.....not the place you'd expect to see so many top recruits "wanting" to play ball.....VERY conservative Southern Baptist school in a VERY conservative little town....not going to say more here.

From what I'm hearing the NCAA is about to be all over them again....and repeat offenders, not named Kentucky, usually don't have much luck when they are investigated twice in such a short time.


It wasn't all that long ago Baylor couldn't even play non-league games.
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: ErickJD08 on October 21, 2010, 12:03:34 PM
Someone help me out.  I hear about commits affecting other's decisions to help MU.  Who is the last major recruit to pick MU because another kid went to a school that happen to be on the other kid's list?
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: MUfan12 on October 21, 2010, 12:24:32 PM
Quote from: foreverwarriors on October 21, 2010, 10:46:14 AM
Jeff Goodman at fox sports reported earlier today that Pitino and Louisville pulled out (heheheh) of the Miller sweepstakes

At least Quincy got more than 15 seconds...
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: Benny B on October 21, 2010, 12:52:40 PM
Quote from: foreverwarriors on October 21, 2010, 10:46:14 AM
Jeff Goodman at fox sports reported earlier today that Pitino and Louisville pulled out (heheheh) of the Miller sweepstakes

http://twitter.com/goodmanonfox

Redacted... Mufan beat me to it.
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: TallTitan34 on October 21, 2010, 12:57:24 PM
Quote from: MarkCharles on October 21, 2010, 10:56:24 AM
I think MU is completely out of it for Miller, but it is only a positive to be mentioned as a finalist for a player of his caliber. It would be cool if at the announcement, there was a Marquette hat sitting in front of him.

I'm willing to settle for a MU hat on the show.
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: Pakuni on October 21, 2010, 01:00:51 PM
Quote from: MUfan12 on October 21, 2010, 12:24:32 PM
At least Quincy got more than 15 seconds...

There's a one-and-done joke here somewhere.
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: NersEllenson on October 21, 2010, 01:03:02 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 21, 2010, 12:57:24 PM
I'm willing to settle for a MU hat on the show.

If Quincy happened to reach for the Marquette hat and selected us...I'd have to say that would be better than busting a nut. 
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: Wade for President on October 21, 2010, 01:04:54 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Quincy (and Bello for that matter) hasn't been to MU for a visit, has he?  I think that in itself tells you where Marquette stands with getting his services for next year.

I will run to Milwaukee naked if he commits to MU.
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: Benny B on October 21, 2010, 01:16:19 PM
Quote from: Wade for President on October 21, 2010, 01:04:54 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Quincy (and Bello for that matter) hasn't been to MU for a visit, has he?  I think that in itself tells you where Marquette stands with getting his services for next year.

I will run to Milwaukee naked if he commits to MU.

Please be courteous with your choice of time and route.  The rest of us shouldn't have to pay the price should your prediction be erroneous.
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: mugrad99 on October 21, 2010, 01:24:09 PM
Quote from: Wade for President on October 21, 2010, 01:04:54 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Quincy (and Bello for that matter) hasn't been to MU for a visit, has he?  I think that in itself tells you where Marquette stands with getting his services for next year.

I will run to Milwaukee naked if he commits to MU.

And please be sure to avoid the Toll Roads...do not want to know where you would keep the $$$$
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: 4everwarriors on October 21, 2010, 01:42:26 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on October 21, 2010, 01:00:51 PM
There's a one-and-done joke here somewhere.

Did he dribble off his leg?
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: tower912 on October 21, 2010, 01:46:57 PM
Gotta be careful about hurling invective toward Baylor, though there name has certainly been in the paper lately and not for anything good.    If Buzz somehow pulls off this coup, the same stuff will be hurled at him (us), and not just by Bucky fans and chicos' innuendos.
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: 4everwarriors on October 21, 2010, 01:51:28 PM
Quote from: MarkCharles on October 21, 2010, 10:53:39 AM
Thats what their board was saying the other day. Of course now that they are out of it for him, he is dirty and asking for money. I don't see any way he doesn't choose Baylor, which is fine by me.

You didn't just post premium info, did you? Would want you to post from jail.
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: copious1218 on October 21, 2010, 04:04:44 PM
anyone watching this presser?  Not that I believe MU has a shot - just curious to see where they all end up.
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: cheebs09 on October 21, 2010, 04:08:41 PM
Adam Zagoria's twitter is saying Miller is going to Baylor based on a D1 assistant coach who was involved in the recruitment.

http://twitter.com/adamzagoria (http://twitter.com/adamzagoria)
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: nyg on October 21, 2010, 04:10:36 PM
Quote from: copious1218 on October 21, 2010, 04:04:44 PM
anyone watching this presser?  Not that I believe MU has a shot - just curious to see where they all end up.

I got it on.  Will be interesting.  Bello and Miller look very happy.  See if Baylor comes out a big winner today.  Is ay Miller to Baylor, along with Bello.  Nash to Oklahoma State.
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on October 21, 2010, 04:13:21 PM
Baylor for both.  Miller and Bello.
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: StillAWarrior on October 21, 2010, 04:14:32 PM
Quote from: SaintPaulWarrior on October 21, 2010, 04:13:21 PM
Baylor for both.  Miller and Bello.

I wonder if we're going to start seeing more of this in light of the Wade/James/Bosh arrangement.
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: nyg on October 21, 2010, 04:14:46 PM
Bello and Miller never mentioned MU as consideration.  Good luck to them in Waco.  
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: TallTitan34 on October 21, 2010, 04:16:50 PM
Was there a MU hat at least?
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on October 21, 2010, 04:18:24 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 21, 2010, 04:16:50 PM
Was there a MU hat at least?

No they had Miller considering L'ville, Baylor, Oklahoma and Duke.

Bello considering L'ville, Baylor, Oklahoma, Fla St. and Wake Forest.
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: nyg on October 21, 2010, 04:22:18 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 21, 2010, 04:16:50 PM
Was there a MU hat at least?

No hat, just the schools verbally listed by both. 
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: GGGG on October 21, 2010, 04:29:18 PM
Quote from: SaintPaulWarrior on October 21, 2010, 04:13:21 PM
Baylor for both.  Miller and Bello.


They also have a verbal from Scouts #2 center in 2012...and are mentioned all over the top of the 2012 ratings.

Amazing turnaround.  I just hope it's clean.
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: Golden Avalanche on October 21, 2010, 04:32:37 PM
Quote from: nyg on October 21, 2010, 04:14:46 PM
Bello and Miller never mentioned MU as consideration.  Good luck to them in Waco.  

That's because Bello was never a reality for MU and last week Miller himself said it was only between Baylor, Louisville, and Oklahoma.

Not the first time ESPN is wrong on recruiting.
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: nyg on October 21, 2010, 04:37:22 PM
For those not watching, Lebryan Nash chose Oklahoma State.
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: HoopsMalone on October 21, 2010, 04:43:36 PM
With these guys off the board, what does this do for Hood and Louisville?  Any guesses?  Miller/Bello to Louisville would have made it less likely, but that didn't happen obviously.
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: texaswarrior74 on October 21, 2010, 05:01:41 PM
Quote from: SaintPaulWarrior on October 21, 2010, 04:13:21 PM
Baylor for both.  Miller and Bello.

Now there's a surprise.

There's no way that Drew is putting together that kind of class at Baylor by being on the up and up....only a matter of time before the walls come crashing down on Baylor again....notice the lack of Texas recruits....coaches here know better......
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: NersEllenson on October 21, 2010, 05:09:51 PM
Quote from: texaswarrior74 on October 21, 2010, 05:01:41 PM
Now there's a surprise.

There's no way that Drew is putting together that kind of class at Baylor by being on the up and up....only a matter of time before the walls come crashing down on Baylor again....notice the lack of Texas recruits....coaches here know better......

But he did land Perry Jones out of Dallas last class...but I agree with you that this just doesn't pass the "sniff test."
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: tower912 on October 21, 2010, 05:15:42 PM
Here's the problem.    The same allegation and innuendo that we are tossing out against Baylor is the the same stuff being tossed at us from buckyville, the spartan scout board, and chicos contacts.    Be careful where you point. 
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: texaswarrior74 on October 21, 2010, 05:30:02 PM
Quote from: tower912 on October 21, 2010, 05:15:42 PM
Here's the problem.    The same allegation and innuendo that we are tossing out against Baylor is the the same stuff being tossed at us from buckyville, the spartan scout board, and chicos contacts.    Be careful where you point. 

Marquette and Milwaukee aren't Baylor and Waco....trust me on this one.....polar opposites in fact.
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: NersEllenson on October 21, 2010, 05:39:57 PM
Quote from: texaswarrior74 on October 21, 2010, 05:30:02 PM
Marquette and Milwaukee aren't Baylor and Waco....trust me on this one.....polar opposites in fact.

+1 - There is NO comparison.  There is a lot more to sell with the MU program alone just based on tradition, player development, etc...but then when you extrapolate to the locations - MKE and Waco - hands down MU wins...MKE at least has an NBA team, where players come play against the MU kids in the off season..can't touch that at Baylor...
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on October 21, 2010, 06:18:18 PM
Quote from: Ners on October 21, 2010, 05:39:57 PM
+1 - There is NO comparison.  There is a lot more to sell with the MU program alone just based on tradition, player development, etc...but then when you extrapolate to the locations - MKE and Waco - hands down MU wins...MKE at least has an NBA team, where players come play against the MU kids in the off season..can't touch that at Baylor...

Sorry guys, doesn't mean a hill of beans.  Student athletes pick different schools for different reasons.  Why is a program in Spokane, Washington doing better than most places in the country?  Madison has a better campus than Marquette (than again, Madison isn't as diverse as MU so maybe that plays into it)...etc, etc.  Some kids want a more urban setting with internship opportunities, the big city, major league sports....some want to be in the middle of a cow pasture and others stuck up in the mountains and 4 hours from the nearest major airport.

It doesn't matter to anyone except for the kids and where THEY choose to go to school.
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: texaswarrior74 on October 21, 2010, 06:23:28 PM
They finally joined the enlightened age in 1996 when the formally allowed on campus dancing .....like I said VERY conservative place....world's largest Baptist university.....

http://www.baylor.edu/pr/news.php?action=story&story=1052

.......and BTW, the Southern Baptists really do believe that we Catholics are heathens....we pray to false idols......a few years back at their annual convention their leader gave its members their mission for the year..... conversion of the Jews....I am NOT making this up....
Title: Re: 3 Big announcements today
Post by: Lennys Tap on October 21, 2010, 06:34:05 PM
Quote from: tower912 on October 21, 2010, 05:15:42 PM
Here's the problem.    The same allegation and innuendo that we are tossing out against Baylor is the the same stuff being tossed at us from buckyville, the spartan scout board, and chicos contacts.    Be careful where you point. 

The MSU boards insisted they were out of the Dawson sweepstakes because he had his hand out and the Spartans weren't the type of program to fill it. They insinuated Marquette was. Now that he's chosen MSU either a) he didn't have his hand out or b) MSU outbid us. So far the "insiders" on the Michigan St board haven't decided which.
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