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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: NersEllenson on October 17, 2010, 09:22:45 AM
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Per Mark Miller - Rodney Hood to announce today. It's between MU, Florida State, and L'ville. Most chatter has us in 3rd place. L'ville is holding out for Quincy Miller/Deuce Bello - but will certainly take Hood if he gives them the verbal.
MU would be a GREAT fit for Hood, based on his skill/position/pedigree - good family, good values - and MU will give him the best of both worlds - athletically and academically. Let's hope for the best!
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It's between MU, Florida State, and L'ville.
Not sure where you heard that from.
"His father indicated that Rodney did not want to make a decision this week right after a visit with that school fresh in his mind.
Despite conflicting reports out there, his list includes Alabama, Florida State, Louisville, Marquette and Mississippi State."
http://hoopsrecruits.blogs.tidesports.com/10507/top-targets-to-decide-soon/
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Not sure where you heard that from.
"His father indicated that Rodney did not want to make a decision this week right after a visit with that school fresh in his mind.
Despite conflicting reports out there, his list includes Alabama, Florida State, Louisville, Marquette and Mississippi State."
http://hoopsrecruits.blogs.tidesports.com/10507/top-targets-to-decide-soon/
Consider your source for information..an Alabama fan site. If Rodney Hood himself stating this past week that: Three programs have separtated themselves from the rest: MU, Lville and FSU" doesn't carry any weight..I'm not sure what to think. His recruitment has been a little all over...but let's just say I'd be SHOCKED if he announced he was going to any school other than MU Lville or FSU.
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Yeah I do remember reading something about it being down to 3 schools, but the way I understood that blurb from that link I posted was that was what his dad told the reporter. Kids change their minds so I was assuming all those schools were still in play.
I'm hopeful, but he sure seemed in love with Louisville after his visit. Hamilton always gets top talent (never wins with it though), so they'll be tough to beat out as well.
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Per Mark Miller - Rodney Hood to announce today. It's between MU, Florida State, and L'ville. Most chatter has us in 3rd place. L'ville is holding out for Quincy Miller/Deuce Bello - but will certainly take Hood if he gives them the verbal.
MU would be a GREAT fit for Hood, based on his skill/position/pedigree - good family, good values - and MU will give him the best of both worlds - athletically and academically. Let's hope for the best!
I didn't see where Mark posted this. Was it on the Wissports.net site somewhere? I didn't see it on the Scout board either.
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Louisville lists 14 players on their roster, with only 1 being a senior.
Rivals already has them listed with 5 Recruit commits.
Where the hell do they have room for anymore, and why would Hood or anybody else get involved in that clusterscrew?
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Does anyone know if he was at FSU Madness or somewhere else on Friday? That may be why he is announcing today - he really had a good visit to his last place.
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I'm hopeful, but he sure seemed in love with Louisville after his visit. Hamilton always gets top talent (never wins with it though), so they'll be tough to beat out as well.
Agree 100% with what you wrote above. Of course as MU fans we are biased...but the truth is that Buzz/MU will maximize your athletic and academic talents, while winning in the Big East. Hood is from a solid family...that values both basketball and off the court factors in this process..but..Hood was wowed by the new Yum Center at Lville.
I haven't heard a lot on the Miss State front - but wouldn't discount what GOMU1104 posted...but that would surprise me.
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Does anyone know if he was at FSU Madness or somewhere else on Friday? That may be why he is announcing today - he really had a good visit to his last place.
I do know after his Lville visit (last weekend)..he said he didn't want to knee jerk and offer a verbal right away..wanted to think about it for a few days - so as for timing of an announcement..I'd say this follows his thoughts coming out of the Lville visit. That said, I have no idea if he was at FSU madness this past Friday.
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Louisville lists 14 players on their roster, with only 1 being a senior.
Rivals already has them listed with 5 Recruit commits.
Where the hell do they have room for anymore, and why would Hood or anybody else get involved in that clusterscrew?
You need to take a closer look at the roster, a bunch of those guys are walk ons, or guys that were promised scholarships conditionally and are willing to become walk ons if need be.
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Bma725, do you know if there is a limit to how many walk-ons a team can have?
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Bma725, do you know if there is a limit to how many walk-ons a team can have?
As far as I know, there is no limit on the total number of walk ons, but there is a limit to the total number of players that can travel.
Lousiville right now has three walk ons. They started the year with four, but Elisha Justice switched from a full academic scholarship to a basketball scholarship when Coleman/Sallie/Dieng didn't make it. So he'll likely switch back after this season giving them 4 scholarships to use next year, maybe more.
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Not sure where you heard that from.
"His father indicated that Rodney did not want to make a decision this week right after a visit with that school fresh in his mind.
Despite conflicting reports out there, his list includes Alabama, Florida State, Louisville, Marquette and Mississippi State."
http://hoopsrecruits.blogs.tidesports.com/10507/top-targets-to-decide-soon/
He got it from the premium board on the other site.......
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He got it from the premium board on the other site.......
And where did that person get his info??
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He got it from the premium board on the other site.......
Well damn, I'm sure I'll be blamed for that by someone. LOL.
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Hilarious Chicos! I literaly can't stop laughing out loud!
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Not feeling this recruit.
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He got it from the premium board on the other site.......
Which begs the question, why the hell did he post PREMIUM info from the scout board over here?? Mark Miller posts here, if he wanted the info over here, he would have posted it. I hope Dodds figures out who you are over there, and bans you. That stuff is a NO NO.
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I feel like I have the same amount of information I had before Anderson committed. This is impossible to know. What a great player Hood would be in Buzz's system though.
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Does anyone know if there is a time set?
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Who knows...... no news on this one.
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Which begs the question, why the hell did he post PREMIUM info from the scout board over here?? Mark Miller posts here, if he wanted the info over here, he would have posted it. I hope Dodds figures out who you are over there, and bans you. That stuff is a NO NO.
Overreact much?
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Overreact much?
Really? You honestly believe this is an over-reaction. Ridiculous.
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And where did that person get his info??
I don't know, but the poster who did, is one of the top 2 or 3 most respected posters in regards to accuracy on both these sites, so I'll take his word for it.
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Which begs the question, why the hell did he post PREMIUM info from the scout board over here?? Mark Miller posts here, if he wanted the info over here, he would have posted it. I hope Dodds figures out who you are over there, and bans you. That stuff is a NO NO.
Really? You honestly believe this is an over-reaction. Ridiculous.
Yeah - I'd say there was quite an overreaction!! Let's hope this doesn't result in Hood not choosing Marquette due to someone posting premium information from the Scout site, on MUScoop. Rodney, if you are reading our message boards, please realize the vast majority of MU fans are not this petty or lame.
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Really? You honestly believe this is an over-reaction. Ridiculous.
You are acting like a 12 year old who had his lollipop stolen. Stop being so ridiculous about message board conduct.
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Yeah - I'd say there was quite an overreaction!! Let's hope this doesn't result in Hood not choosing Marquette due to someone posting premium information from the Scout site, on MUScoop. Rodney, if you are reading our message boards, please realize the vast majority of MU fans are not this petty or lame.
It has nothing to do with affecting Rodney's decision. It has to do with the fact that YOU or whoever told you took info that is PAID for and posted it over here, for FREE. I said it before, if MM wanted the info posted here, he would have posted it here. People pay for that info for a reason. It's stealing.
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Which begs the question, why the hell did he post PREMIUM info from the scout board over here?? Mark Miller posts here, if he wanted the info over here, he would have posted it. I hope Dodds figures out who you are over there, and bans you. That stuff is a NO NO.
I have a feeling I'll be banned, even though it wasn't me.....wait, I'm already banned for life. Well, that will probably work out for everyone. It's sort of like Texas Southern being put on 3 years probation for violations by Baylor. ;D
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People pay for that info for a reason.
Yep, and it's truly hilarious that people waste their money on that crap. Premium boards are a joke.
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Yep, and it's truly hilarious that people waste their money on that crap. Premium boards are a joke.
Oh please enlighten us.........
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Yep, and it's truly hilarious that people waste their money on that crap. Premium boards are a joke.
You are entitled to your opinion, but it still doesn't dismiss the fact that the OP STOLE from premium subscribers at scout. I don't know if he has kids or not, but if he does, would he tell his kids that it's ok, to take something that doesn't belong to them?? I sure hope not. I would hope they are better then their father's example.
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So, about Hood's decision.... would be great to discuss
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Dodds threatened to tell ESPN that I was posting videos of game highlights on scoop, but he said if I posted them over at his site instead he would be able to work out a deal allowing me to do it.
I kept posting the videos here and nothing ever came of his threats.
I'm all for stealing that asshat's premium content.
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Dodds threatened to tell ESPN that I was posting videos of game highlights on scoop, but he said if I posted them over at his site instead he would be able to work out a deal allowing me to do it.
I kept posting the videos here and nothing ever came of his threats.
I'm all for stealing that asshat's premium content.
You aren't stealing HIS premium content you little ass clown, you are stealing from the people that pay for it's content. You know, fellow MU fans. Classy. Way to represent MU in a honorable way. ::)
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You aren't stealing HIS premium content you little ass clown, you are stealing from the people that pay for it's content. You know, fellow MU fans. Classy. Way to represent MU in a honorable way. ::)
Maybe he's upset with the threat that was made against him for posting videos? Wouldn't be the first time. Just sayin
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You are entitled to your opinion, but it still doesn't dismiss the fact that the OP STOLE from premium subscribers at scout. I don't know if he has kids or not, but if he does, would he tell his kids that it's ok, to take something that doesn't belong to them?? I sure hope not. I would hope they are better then their father's example.
You put it on the internet you should expect it to get stolen, leaked, etc. This isnt a patent infringement, its someone's words that were openly put on the internet.
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I put hard work into cutting the video clips so Marquette fans could see game highlights for FREE.
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So don't tell me Im ripping off Marquette fans. That's Dodd's job.
Edit: I've edited out a piece of this .. may be somewhat slanderous.
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Dodds threatened to tell ESPN that I was posting videos of game highlights on scoop, but he said if I posted them over at his site instead he would be able to work out a deal allowing me to do it.
I kept posting the videos here and nothing ever came of his threats.
I'm all for stealing that asshat's premium content.
You promote stealing? You stay classy. Glad to see the MU education set you on the straight and narrow.
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You know what the worst part about this is? Once again a thread has turned into a bunch of d-bags bickering with each other. Jesus christ hood may be deciding today and we're discussing whether it us wrong to steal! We'd love to have you rodney in case you are reading but I hope you are not.
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You put it on the internet you should expect it to get stolen, leaked, etc. This isnt a patent infringement, its someone's words that were openly put on the internet.
...umm openly put on a PRIVATE website....you can try to justify all you want, it's stealing. He took paid content and distributed on a free website.
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You put it on the internet you should expect it to get stolen, leaked, etc. This isnt a patent infringement, its someone's words that were openly put on the internet.
Usually you pay for that content and its password protected and all. If you are copying and pasting material, that is copyright infringement.
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If Hood is announcing, he has already decided where he is going. There is no need to pick a time and then just go with your gut when the time comes.
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I put hard work into cutting the video clips so Marquette fans could see game highlights for FREE.
But Dodds tried to blackmail me into doing it on his site so he could make the almighty dollar, charging Marquette fans for my work.
So don't tell me Im ripping off Marquette fans. That's Dodd's job.
I'll be over to your place tonight...I'll be over to steal your TV, your laptop, and anything else of value I can find. Apparently, that would be ok with you. ::)
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You promote stealing? You stay classy. Glad to see the MU education set you on the straight and narrow.
Oh I'll admit that's it's stealing and it isn't the right thing to do.
But it couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
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You know what the worst part about this is? Once again a thread has turned into a bunch of d-bags bickering with each other. Jesus christ hood may be deciding today and we're discussing whether it us wrong to steal! We'd love to have you rodney in case you are reading but I hope you are not.
Nice, calling people d-bags...the internet makes people so "tough".
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I'll be over to your place tonight...I'll be over to steal your TV, your laptop, and anything else of value I can find. Apparently, that would be ok with you. ::)
Is blackmailing ok with you?
I don't know if that happened, I'm just asking as I watch this thread unfold.
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Usually you pay for that content and its password protected and all. If you are copying and pasting material, that is copyright infringement.
Now try and enforce it. Oh, and make no mention of the questionable legal practices websites use to sell your privacy information to advertisers.
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Oh I'll admit that's it's stealing and it isn't the right thing to do.
But it couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
Actually, it has nothing to do with Dodds...The person actually stole from Mark Miller(the person who posted the info) and those posters who paid for that info.
Someone made mention that paying for premium info is useless. This is a perfect example.....if the OP doesn't steal the info, and post it over here, the only people that would know this info would be people that pay for that info. You won't find the info on any other boards. Not the Louisville board, not the Florida State board, not the Mississippi St. board, not the Alabama board.
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...umm openly put on a PRIVATE website....you can try to justify all you want, it's stealing. He took paid content and distributed on a free website.
If you are still of the belief that stuff on the internet is "private" then you need to recheck with reality. Scout's security isn't even marginally decent.
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If you are still of the belief that stuff on the internet is "private" then you need to recheck with reality. Scout's security isn't even marginally decent.
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It's about being a MAN, and doing what is RIGHT...just because "everyone" else does something, doesn't mean you should, or mean that it's right...maybe you should recheck yourself as a MAN before you post crap like this.
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You aren't stealing HIS premium content you little ass clown, you are stealing from the people that pay for it's content. You know, fellow MU fans. Classy. Way to represent MU in a honorable way. ::)
This is the most ridiculous debate I've yet to see on Scoop or the Scout Marquette site. So if I pay for content as an ESPN Insider - I cannot share that information with a friend of mine? Can't print out the article from ESPN Insider and give to a friend?? That makes me a theif? I'm perfectly fine with my ethics as an MU grad..SHARING information I PAID for, with those who either choose not to..or can't afford to. Maybe you are the one who needs to revisit the values of your Jesuit education...and service to others.
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If you are still of the belief that stuff on the internet is "private" then you need to recheck with reality. Scout's security isn't even marginally decent.
Truth.
I'll be over to your place tonight...I'll be over to steal your TV, your laptop, and anything else of value I can find. Apparently, that would be ok with you. ::)
I think that you misunderstand how things, in general, work.
(http://s.buzzfeed.com/static/imagebuzz/2008/8/27/12/27311d2d7c84e8f3e3f5036ed08d198b.jpg)
I hope you've never downloaded a song from Napster, or watched a TV clip longer than 30 seconds on youtube, because that makes you a "thief."
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If you are still of the belief that stuff on the internet is "private" then you need to recheck with reality. Scout's security isn't even marginally decent.
Hmmmm then if you believe the contents of your home are "private" and anyone should be allowed to break in and take them?? Is it ok, if I do that to your house tonight?? Obviously, "private" is not private in your world, it's all public, so in essence, even though you bought it and paid for it, I have a right to it according to you, or if because your security system at home is useless and I figured out how to get around it, I am entitled to it, is that correct??
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Actually, it has nothing to do with Dodds...The person actually stole from Mark Miller(the person who posted the info) and those posters who paid for that info.
Someone made mention that paying for premium info is useless. This is a perfect example.....if the OP doesn't steal the info, and post it over here, the only people that would know this info would be people that pay for that info. You won't find the info on any other boards. Not the Louisville board, not the Florida State board, not the Mississippi St. board, not the Alabama board.
so, just to clarify, you are saying that information can travel on the internet unchecked?
okay. I like your point.
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time? place?
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If you are still of the belief that stuff on the internet is "private" then you need to recheck with reality. Scout's security isn't even marginally decent.
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It's about being a MAN, and doing what is RIGHT...just because "everyone" else does something, doesn't mean you should, or mean that it's right...maybe you should recheck yourself as a MAN before you post crap like this.
First off, I never posted anything. But Im also not of a belief that you can police any of this. This is a freaking message board for Christ's sake and some of you are freaking out about some tiny details being leaked to another site. Jeez, recheck your priorities before getting so mad.
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Nice, calling people d-bags...the internet makes people so "tough".
Not sure what any of this has to do with being "tough." For the record I am a premium scout member as well and I think it is boneheaded for someone to take info they obtained from the premium scout site and post it here. I was simply commenting on the uptight nature of posters message boards. Try not to get your panties in a bunch "toughguy."
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Hmmmm then if you believe the contents of your home are "private" and anyone should be allowed to break in and take them?? Is it ok, if I do that to your house tonight?? Obviously, "private" is not private in your world, it's all public, so in essence, even though you bought it and paid for it, I have a right to it according to you, or if because your security system at home is useless and I figured out how to get around it, I am entitled to it, is that correct??
I can't begin to tell you where your analogy fell apart.
I think it was 2 posts ago... but I'm not sure.
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In an attempt to bring this thread back on topic... Do we have any idea what time Hood is planning on announcing his decision?
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Hmmmm then if you believe the contents of your home are "private" and anyone should be allowed to break in and take them?? Is it ok, if I do that to your house tonight?? Obviously, "private" is not private in your world, it's all public, so in essence, even though you bought it and paid for it, I have a right to it according to you, or if because your security system at home is useless and I figured out how to get around it, I am entitled to it, is that correct??
Actually comparing postings on the internet to privately owned objects in your house is laughable. The internet is open, just realize that. I NEVER argued the morals of it, just the reality of it.
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This is the most ridiculous debate I've yet to see on Scoop or the Scout Marquette site. So if I pay for content as an ESPN Insider - I cannot share that information with a friend of mine? Can't print out the article from ESPN Insider and give to a friend?? That makes me a theif? I'm perfectly fine with my ethics as an MU grad..SHARING information I PAID for, with those who either choose not to..or can't afford to. Maybe you are the one who needs to revisit the values of your Jesuit education...and service to others.
Sure, go right ahead and share it with them.....in that format. But do NOT post it on a FREE website for the whole world to see. Find me another free website of the other teams that Rodney is choosing from where you can find this same info....You can't. There's a reason for that, don't you think??
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By the way, I NEVER see anyone get this angry when someone starts a thread for Game Streams. Many of you are being very selective in when you want things on the Internet to retain their privacy.
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Truth.
I think that you misunderstand how things, in general, work.
(http://s.buzzfeed.com/static/imagebuzz/2008/8/27/12/27311d2d7c84e8f3e3f5036ed08d198b.jpg)
I hope you've never downloaded a song from Napster, or watched a TV clip longer than 30 seconds on youtube, because that makes you a "thief."
If I could only hang with you for a few hours, I could learn soooo much.....stealing is stealing, sugarcoat it all you want.
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If you are still of the belief that stuff on the internet is "private" then you need to recheck with reality. Scout's security isn't even marginally decent.
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It's about being a MAN, and doing what is RIGHT...just because "everyone" else does something, doesn't mean you should, or mean that it's right...maybe you should recheck yourself as a MAN before you post crap like this.
Now this is about being a "man?" Really? I'm very comfortable with my manhood and ethics Djgoldnboy. The only one's who look like b$tches in any of this are you and Muguru. Seriously. Y'all pay for your information over there..and you get it...it's not like you don't get what you pay for. I paid for my info on Scout..and chose to share with the Scoop community - I've never known to PAY for something, and then be told I was stealing..or not a man.
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Find me another free website of the other teams that Rodney is choosing from where you can find this same info....You can't. There's a reason for that, don't you think??
http://www.cardchronicle.com/2010/10/13/1750171/rodney-hood-will-announce-college-choice-next-week (http://www.cardchronicle.com/2010/10/13/1750171/rodney-hood-will-announce-college-choice-next-week)
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T-Squared, you still on your commute home from Friday?
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T-Squared, you still on your commute home from Friday?
Haha yeah just got home about an hour ago.
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Since my post asking the time of the Hood announcement was taken down( why I don't know) do I now assume after reading the L'ville board that the alledged announcement is now some time this week?
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By the way, I NEVER see anyone get this angry when someone starts a thread for Game Streams. Many of you are being very selective in when you want things on the Internet to retain their privacy.
Also no one seems to get bent out of shape about people posting ESPN Insider articles in full on both sites. I don't think the info should have been posted, especially since someone said, Mark Miller posts here, so there is a reason he put it on the premium site.
Edited to add: The article was dated October 13th, so things might have changed. Also, today is technically next week, so who knows. I trust Mark Miller.
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http://www.cardchronicle.com/2010/10/13/1750171/rodney-hood-will-announce-college-choice-next-week (http://www.cardchronicle.com/2010/10/13/1750171/rodney-hood-will-announce-college-choice-next-week)
Nice try, but that just says next week. Everyone new that. But what they didn't know until Mark Miller had the info that his announcement would be today.
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By the way, I NEVER see anyone get this angry when someone starts a thread for Game Streams. Many of you are being very selective in when you want things on the Internet to retain their privacy.
+1....those of us in the tv industry have to spend a ton of money to carry those games.
I was so hoping to get the blackmail question answered by some here, but it hasn't. Imagine that..
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Can someone share their porn from their private account please so I don't get in trouble when my VISA bill comes? Thanks in advance.
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+1....those of us in the tv industry have to spend a ton of money to carry those games.
I was so hoping to get the blackmail question answered by some here, but it hasn't. Imagine that..
Is stealing OK with you?
Is having a MU "fansite" negatively impact the program OK with you?
Just asking...
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In an attempt to bring this thread back on topic... Do we have any idea what time Hood is planning on announcing his decision?
I think all hopes of getting this back on topic are over.
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i want info on hood's announcement. start a new topic to discuss your f'ing stealing info sht. this is so pathetic.
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Let's talk Hood
(I'm hoping a new page starting off with 3 straight posts about him gets some information that are actually on topic. Seems like - or just straight up is the case - every thread about a recruit turns into a 5 page topic completely unrelated)
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Nice try, but that just says next week. Everyone new that. But what they didn't know until Mark Miller had the info that his announcement would be today.
You're acting like this is the first time this has ever happened in the history of the world.
I'm not sure this kerfuffle necessitates you and DJ running over here like bodyguards to defend the honor of the Scout site. It seems rather petty. Plus, it probably goes to show just where we stand with Hood if a thread on his decision is dominated by the morally righteous brigade. :-[
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I love the idea of Hood, but have to admit I'm much bigger on the idea of us getting a power forward in. We already have a number of switchables like Williams, Jones, Wilson, and now Anderson. Though admittedly, I can't imagine scoffing at the idea of any consensus top 50 recruit.
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Hello there .. been out of contact for the day.
Just caught up on this thread. Want to chime in that the official policy here that we want to respect Dodds' premium info. It's a business, they take money and give you premium info, and you have to respect that.
The challenge is to figure out .. when does info get into the public domain. The internet is slippery that way. At some point, there's a 2nd source.
At this point, the original point of this thread is now widely known .. so no action will be taken here.. but Dodds may have a different answer for his part.
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Is stealing OK with you?
Is having a MU "fansite" negatively impact the program OK with you?
Just asking...
What do you mean a MU "fansite" negatively impacting the program? You mean when the truth is told? I don't have any issues when the truth is told or shining the light on activities that are poor judgment, flat out illegal or unethical....or do you like just covering those up. Just asking. Have we lost a recruit....has the program been "negatively impacted"....please provide proof.
Is stealing ok with me.....in general, no. I'm always conflicted when I'm in the airport with my laptop and I plug it into a wall by the gate, am I "stealing" since I didn't pay for that electricity? If I copy something from the Internet that another site had copied from say ESPN Insider, but I don't know that, am I an accomplice in stealing? I'm just asking. But generally speaking, I'm not ok with stealing in the sense we are all familiar with...go to store, take item....not cool with that. Go to internet and watch live game that is pirated or streamed illegally...no ok with it. Taking songs off napster...not ok with it. Writing information about a recruit's decision where bits and pieces of info are on probably 40 other sites....
By the way, I think blackmailing is even worse, but that's just me. Just sayin.
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I love the idea of Hood, but have to admit I'm much bigger on the idea of us getting a power forward in. We already have a number of switchables like Williams, Jones, Wilson, and now Anderson. Though admittedly, I can't imagine scoffing at the idea of any consensus top 50 recruit.
I feel the same way on some level. Hood, though, is pretty tall and can play the 2, 3, or 4 in Buzz's offense. I would not regret taking him even though I have many times said I would rather see Buzz pass on guards in favor of bigs this year. If you have the chance at a 5-star, you have to take him.
I think EWill and Jamil Wilson and Crowder can play the 4 spot next year. And Buzz definitely uses the 4 spot different than other coaches and those types of players play there. Hood would play the wing with DJO, Blue, Jones, and Anderson. Cadougan, Smith, and Blue should be able to handle the one. We would really need Otule and Gardner to step up inside, and/or recruit a game ready freshman big or JUCO for big success next year, which would concern people with taking another wing. You still can't pass on Hood though, and there is a spot for him.
I'd love Hood, but the third scholarship MUST be a bi gman if he signs. McDonald or Shaw would be perfect.
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Chicos - this is all about WHAT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO?
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We would really need Otule and Gardner to step up inside, and/or recruit a game ready freshman big or JUCO for big success next year, which would concern people with taking another wing.
I'm almost surprised we haven't brought in any Juco big men yet. Butler and DJO have been monster successes. Not a lot of Juco's ever have a chance to make the NBA, and we have two on our roster now. Crowder seems to have tremendous upside, and the least successful has been Fulce, and my guess is most teams would be happy with adding a Juco that has his kind of ability, especially when we're getting three years of eligibility out of him. Maybe poaching that level for a center is the direction Buzz should go if he can't get Shaw or McDonald.
Somewhat off topic, will Jamil Wilson be redshirting this year? Does he come back next year as a sophomore or as a junior? I have to assume he'll be a junior. Just looking ahead, next year we will only have two players graduating, DJO and Crowder (assuming nobody leaves early). With only five scholarships opening up in the next two years, I think that makes this year more critical from a recruiting standpoint. Unless we can get an early verbal from someone like Philip Nolan, we really need to make sure there's a big in this class.
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Chicos - this is all about WHAT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO?
Right thing to do is not blackmail people. Cura Personalis, remember?
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Wilson is sitting out this year, and will be a sophomore next year.
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Somewhat off topic, will Jamil Wilson be redshirting this year? Does he come back next year as a sophomore or as a junior? I have to assume he'll be a junior. Just looking ahead, next year we will only have two players graduating, DJO and Crowder (assuming nobody leaves early). With only five scholarships opening up in the next two years, I think that makes this year more critical from a recruiting standpoint. Unless we can get an early verbal from someone like Philip Nolan, we really need to make sure there's a big in this class.
Wilson will have three years left. He is redshirting. Yeah I found it interesting that they have only two for 2012, but who knows what will happen between now and then.
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What do you mean a MU "fansite" negatively impacting the program? You mean when the truth is told? I don't have any issues when the truth is told or shining the light on activities that are poor judgment, flat out illegal or unethical....or do you like just covering those up. Just asking. Have we lost a recruit....has the program been "negatively impacted"....please provide proof.
I mean when this site promotes a wanna be journalist, and allows him to think hes a groundbreaking investigative reporter looking to "expose the truth." When he is nothing more than a fan, and his "reports" containing alot of half-truths. All for what?
I mean when a "fansite" and some (not all) it's members act in such a manner that impacts the decision of potential recruits.
I mean when opposing conference SIDs look at this site and are embarrassed for Marquette.
Writing information about a recruit's decision where bits and pieces of info are on probably 40 other sites....
Why dont you find the info on 40 other sites and cite them then?
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You need to take a closer look at the roster, a bunch of those guys are walk ons, or guys that were promised scholarships conditionally and are willing to become walk ons if need be.
The roster list I looked at did not list walk ons, assuming you are right, they are stil at least 2 over. Nothing like over recruiting, is there?
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I mean when this site promotes a wanna be journalist, and allows him to think hes a groundbreaking investigative reporter looking to "expose the truth." When he is nothing more than a fan, and his "reports" containing alot of half-truths. All for what?
I mean when a "fansite" and some (not all) it's members act in such a manner that impacts the decision of potential recruits.
I mean when opposing conference SIDs look at this site and are embarrassed for Marquette.
Oh no...some opposing conference SIDs are "embarrassed" for Marquette....it would be nice for them to have 100% control over what is posted on a message board like they trying on another site. Totally stripped down, completely sterile and if anyone brings up one word slightly against der leader it's stripped away. And you wonder why 100's of people no longer post at a certain site.....yes, you wonder. I wonder who's to blame for that, yes, I wonder. ::)
Secondly, if we are losing recruits because of the comments of a fan or fans....wow, talk about thin skinned. What are they going to do when Buzz yells at them at practice, wet themselves? What are they going to do when an opposing team mocks them at the free throw line...run off the court? Please.
But I'm glad to hear you still think blackmailing people is ok. Good to hear.
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Oh no...some opposing conference SIDs are "embarrassed" for Marquette....it would be nice for them to have 100% control over what is posted on a message board like they trying on another site. Totally stripped down, completely sterile and if anyone brings up one word slightly against der leader it's stripped away. And you wonder why 100's of people no longer post at a certain site.....yes, you wonder. I wonder who's to blame for that, yes, I wonder. ::)
Secondly, if we are losing recruits because of the comments of a fan or fans....wow, talk about thin skinned. What are they going to do when Buzz yells at them at practice, wet themselves? What are they going to do when an opposing team mocks them at the free throw line...run off the court? Please.
But I'm glad to hear you still think blackmailing people is ok. Good to hear.
Where did I condone blackmailing, the way you condone stealing? I dont know the facts in this alleged case of "blackmailing"...and I doubt I will get an un-biased explanation on here, so I wont even bother commenting.
Do you think its "cool" that this site isnt moderated, just so you can have a voice? And because of that lack of moderation, the program that we are all fans of is effected? Is that cool to you, does that make you happy?
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Where did I condone blackmailing, the way you condone stealing? I dont know the facts in this alleged case of "blackmailing"...and I doubt I will get an un-biased explanation on here, so I wont even bother commenting.
Do you think its "cool" that this site isnt moderated, just so you can have a voice? And because of that lack of moderation, the program that we are all fans of is effected? Is that cool to you, does that make you happy?
Why are you posting here if you don't care for this site? Why are 100's of people over here posting that will never post over there again? I think if you can answer those questions you will have gained the knowledge you seek.
What is there not to believe from TallTitan's claims? I believe him. Just as I believe so many others that have done their walking from one site to the other (not for the reasons TallTitan claims). They obviously didn't care for the management.
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Why are you posting here if you don't care for this site? Why are 100's of people over here posting that will never post over there again? I think if you can answer those questions you will have gained the knowledge you seek.
What is there not to believe from TallTitan's claims?
There is some good discussion on this site, I wont deny that. However, the majority of it has become a wasteland.
So 100s have people have left the other site and ran to you telling you their stories? I am willing to bet 99% of their decision is based on the preachings of Murf 8-)
Unlike you, the type that takes Brad Forster's word as gold, I like to hear and understand both sides of issues before I judge.
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We almost got back on topic, too :(
Seriously, can't we take this discussion to another thread? It has no bearing whatsoever on what the thread is about and people are trying to discuss.
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You aren't stealing HIS premium content you little ass clown, you are stealing from the people that pay for it's content. You know, fellow MU fans. Classy. Way to represent MU in a honorable way. ::)
This is an absolutely silly argument. It's one thing if you are posting articles from ESPN Insider and the like, but simply stating a fact that you hear on another site, isn't stealing.
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There is some good discussion on this site, I wont deny that. However, the majority of it has become a wasteland.
So 100s have people have left the other site and ran to you telling you their stories? I am willing to bet 99% of their decision is based on the preachings of Murf 8-)
Unlike you, the type that takes Brad Forster's word as gold, I like to hear and understand both sides of issues before I judge.
Brad Forster's word?....I thought the videos showed more than his word and took the views of some of his coaches. I thought the articles and the interviews on independent sites, including newspapers showed more than "Brad's word"....at some point the evidence becomes a landslide but some just want to ignore it and even when presented with both sides, completely look dumbfounded. :D
PS Murf posts on this site as well. Something tells me so many people left the other site for other reasons, but you'll have to guess why that is....maybe you can ask and listed to "both sides" and then make a judgment.
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Recently saw a Gladwell and Anderson debate on "The Cost of Free". Apple figured out the currency that Napster couldn't. The Nook helped the bookstores take on Amazon. Now Apple has moved in with iPad. Magazines and newspapers can't/couldn't figure out giving away their content. Now that can be solved. Streaming video and content (VOD) is the next horizon. Burns Brothers new indy film release this weekend went right to on-demand since theater distribution was too costly.
Good read article by Wired's Anderson, since Hood is silent.
http://www.wired.com/techbiz/it/magazine/16-03/ff_free?currentPage=all
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Couple things:
1) Would it not be the ultimate irony in this situation if Hood does not announce his decision today - thus devaluing the "premium information?" The reality in the recruiting world is that a lot of stuff gets thrown around, and very, very few ever know the real truth other than the player himself, his family, and maybe the coaching staff at the school. Certainly Mark Miller is as reputable as they get..and this is not to discredit him..but to also point out if "premuim information" turns out to be inaccurate, then was there really value in the first place? Should all subscribers to the Scout site then ask for their money back? Clearly none of us would..but no need to get spastic over such a minor deal.
2) I'm still waiting for djgoldnboy and muguru to tell me how I am stealing..when I paid for the information I posted here. Furthermore, they paid for the info too..and they got what they paid for. Nobody has been wronged. Seems to me I'm acting in a more Jesuit and selfless fashion than those who act selfishly and don't want to share.
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Interweb pay walls are soooo 2006.
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Recently saw a Gladwell and Anderson debate on "The Cost of Free". Apple figured out the currency that Napster couldn't. The Nook helped the bookstores take on Amazon. Now Apple has moved in with iPad. Magazines and newspapers can't/couldn't figure out giving away their content. Now that can be solved. Streaming video and content (VOD) is the next horizon. Burns Brothers new indy film release this weekend went right to on-demand since theater distribution was too costly.
Good read article by Wired's Anderson, since Hood is silent.
http://www.wired.com/techbiz/it/magazine/16-03/ff_free?currentPage=all
Free music is one thing. But when you're putting millions and billions into programming content, that has to be covered with real dollars. This is why comparisons of the record industry to the video industry are so vastly different. You're going to see many of these "free" services start to charge because they cannot sustain themselves.
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Not sure if anyone cares but I made an awesome grilled cheese tonight. I used colby jack and havarti on pan turano bread mmmmmm.
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This is an absolutely silly argument. It's one thing if you are posting articles from ESPN Insider and the like, but simply stating a fact that you hear on another site, isn't stealing.
Exactly. The whole premise is complete stupidity. If someone reads an ESPN Insider story and then anecdotally in their own words fires off one or two sentences about it, is that stealing? Please. But I think that's how some people are arguing...of course some of these same people literally believe there are posters here that wish for MU to lose. So take it all with a grain of salt.
It's one thing to take a song (produced by an artist and musicians) and not pay for it. Same thing for video, etc. It's quite another to take a verbal idea that someone has and restate it. If people can't do that, does it mean someone can no longer read the newspaper or watch CNET business news and bring up what they heard in a meeting....afterall, that would be "stealing" their idea? The whole notion is preposterous.
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Not sure if anyone cares but I made an awesome grilled cheese tonight. I used colby jack and havarti on pan turano bread mmmmmm.
Dude, did you heist the recipe from some premium cooking site?
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Exactly. The whole premise is complete stupidity. If someone reads an ESPN Insider story and then anecdotally in their own words fires off one or two sentences about it, is that stealing? Please. But I think that's how some people are arguing...of course some of these same people literally believe there are posters here that wish for MU to lose. So take it all with a grain of salt.
My local paper, which I pay $12.50 a month for, had an article last week about the local poetry festival our city sponsors. The artilcle claimed that 38 poets were in attendance.
Did I just "steal" that information? lol....
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Now this is about being a "man?" Really? I'm very comfortable with my manhood and ethics Djgoldnboy. The only one's who look like b$tches in any of this are you and Muguru. Seriously. Y'all pay for your information over there..and you get it...it's not like you don't get what you pay for. I paid for my info on Scout..and chose to share with the Scoop community - I've never known to PAY for something, and then be told I was stealing..or not a man.
Wow...took you all of you two lines to revert to calling names? I'm done with this. If you're too ignorant to see what's wrong with taking premium info and posting that on a free board, I can't help you.
And yes, it reverts to you being a "man" and doing what is right. You stole intellectual property and moved it from a paid site to a non-paying site. Look back in this thread, the moderator of this board even agrees what you did is suspect at best, I guess that's good enough for me. You do what you need to do Man. It's just not something I would do.
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Free music is one thing. But when you're putting millions and billions into programming content, that has to be covered with real dollars. This is why comparisons of the record industry to the video industry are so vastly different. You're going to see many of these "free" services start to charge because they cannot sustain themselves.
Free music isn't (so) free any more because of the iPod...that is the point. The Burns Bros. are charging for their new release via Comcast, iPhone, net for VOD. Straight to video in a few weeks for retail. What is DTV doing to play protect? Gladwell and Anderson's dwelled on the "Freemium" debate (think ESPN). Gladwell is like you, trying to find the currency to protect. Anderson sees the broader access "means to an end". Gladwell argued free is not sustainable.
btw, loved your weeping CEO on "Undercover Boss". Good segment.
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Wow...took you all of you two lines to revert to calling names? I'm done with this. If you're too ignorant to see what's wrong with taking premium info and posting that on a free board, I can't help you.
And yes, it reverts to you being a "man" and doing what is right. You stole intellectual property and moved it from a paid site to a non-paying site. Look back in this thread, the moderator of this board even agrees what you did is suspect at best, I guess that's good enough for me. You do what you need to do Man. It's just not something I would do.
A *fact* isn't "intellectual property."
Hope this helps.
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Couple things:
1) Would it not be the ultimate irony in this situation if Hood does not announce his decision today - thus devaluing the "premium information?" The reality in the recruiting world is that a lot of stuff gets thrown around, and very, very few ever know the real truth other than the player himself, his family, and maybe the coaching staff at the school. Certainly Mark Miller is as reputable as they get..and this is not to discredit him..but to also point out if "premuim information" turns out to be inaccurate, then was there really value in the first place? Should all subscribers to the Scout site then ask for their money back? Clearly none of us would..but no need to get spastic over such a minor deal.
2) I'm still waiting for djgoldnboy and muguru to tell me how I am stealing..when I paid for the information I posted here. Furthermore, they paid for the info too..and they got what they paid for. Nobody has been wronged. Seems to me I'm acting in a more Jesuit and selfless fashion than those who act selfishly and don't want to share.
Mark Miller was wronged. He posts here as well. Don't you think if he wanted his info on this board, he would have posted it himself?? Did you ask him if it was ok?? No, you did not. Perhaps you did pay for the information, but others here did NOT. That's the problem. If you want to tell them that info in a PM or something of that ilk, fine, but to post it on the board?? Why don't you go post it on the Alabama board, the Mississippi St board, the Florida State board?? Afterall, that would be "sharing" too wouldn't it??
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DJpaulyDGldnBoy, are you Mike Gundy? All this man talk is hi-larious.
I'm a man! I'm 40! I can take it. Write stuff about me! I'm a man!
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I am not going to get into this argument, but there is one thing I will point out. while I was with Scout I participated in a conference call where they addressed this exact issue, because there were a lot of problems with Scout vs Rivals sites.
Technically, if you 'steal' info from a premium site and post it on another, the law says that they can charge you with 1 count of theft. if the thread has 2,464 views as this thread has now, they can legally charge you with 2,464 counts of theft. Now, would that ever happen? Probably not, but I wouldn't just brush it away.
When I was working with the Journal we had an entire seminar on this. The Associated Press' rule of thumb, if I remember correctly, is that they will allow someone to "copy" something like 3 words. But, if it goes beyond that, similar to the page view counts above, they can claim theft for each page view. I can't remember what the exact number was, but the number 25 sticks in my mind. Instead of suing, they will go after a fee of 25 cents per letter or $25 per word - something like that.
Either way, with the laws that are in place, I wouldn't want to be the one that Scout, or Rivals, or ESPN, or the Associated Press wants to make an example of. Like Chico said above in the Northern Texas/Baylor example, when someone like Scout decides to go after someone, will they go after a powerhouse site like a Flordia site or would they go after someone small like an MU site to send an example to everyone?
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Thanks IWB, but is a simple fact stealing?
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Sooooo...I'm going to take the fact that its 7:20 CT already and assume Hood isn't announcing today?
so much for that great Premium material...
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I am not going to get into this argument, but there is one thing I will point out. while I was with Scout I participated in a conference call where they addressed this exact issue, because there were a lot of problems with Scout vs Rivals sites.
Technically, if you 'steal' info from a premium site and post it on another, the law says that they can charge you with 1 count of theft. if the thread has 2,464 views as this thread has now, they can legally charge you with 2,464 counts of theft. Now, would that ever happen? Probably not, but I wouldn't just brush it away.
When I was working with the Journal we had an entire seminar on this. The Associated Press' rule of thumb, if I remember correctly, is that they will allow someone to "copy" something like 3 words. But, if it goes beyond that, similar to the page view counts above, they can claim theft for each page view. I can't remember what the exact number was, but the number 25 sticks in my mind. Instead of suing, they will go after a fee of 25 cents per letter or $25 per word - something like that.
Either way, with the laws that are in place, I wouldn't want to be the one that Scout, or Rivals, or ESPN, or the Associated Press wants to make an example of. Like Chico said above in the Northern Texas/Baylor example, when someone like Scout decides to go after someone, will they go after a powerhouse site like a Flordia site or would they go after someone small like an MU site to send an example to everyone?
Respect you a lot IWB - but I'll take my chances..if I got charged with "stealing" something that i paid for..well..that would just be this week's sign that Apocalypse is coming soon.
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First off, I was just explaining how it was all laid out for me.
Second, you didn't 'steal' it from me.
Finally - There is no issue with you "stealing something you paid for", but redistributing it without the rights or permissions to do so is the issue.
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Respect you a lot IWB - but I'll take my chances..if I got charged with "stealing" something that i paid for..well..that would just be this week's sign that Apocalypse is coming soon.
IWB is pretty spot on. Also, you pay to read it. In no way do you own the material... and that's the difference.
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Respect you a lot IWB - but I'll take my chances..if I got charged with "stealing" something that i paid for..well..that would just be this week's sign that Apocalypse is coming soon.
You paid to view it not distribute it. Just because you bought a ticket to the movie theater doesn't mean you can bring in your movie camera and distribute it. People do it and get away with it but if you are one of the people they decide to go after you end up paying a lot more then your monthly subscription. For this type of thing it isn't worth it though.
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So iwb while we have you over here care to comment on the whole hood committing today thingy.
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Wow...took you all of you two lines to revert to calling names? I'm done with this. If you're too ignorant to see what's wrong with taking premium info and posting that on a free board, I can't help you.
And yes, it reverts to you being a "man" and doing what is right. You stole intellectual property and moved it from a paid site to a non-paying site. Look back in this thread, the moderator of this board even agrees what you did is suspect at best, I guess that's good enough for me. You do what you need to do Man. It's just not something I would do.
I'm sorry Djgoldnboy - I will be sure to get to confession this week, ask for penance and forgiveness. I hope when it comes my time to pass, at the gates of heaven, God doesn't say to me, "you know Ners, you weren't a man when you passed along information you paid for on the Marquette scout site, to the plebians at MUScoop - you will need to sit here in purgatory for awhile.
My intention wasn't to steal, but to share with other passionate Marquette fans some information from a good source - Mark Miller - that I paid to get access to. I'm not going to request a refund from the operators of the Scout site, now that it appears the "premium information" isn't accurate. I genuinely am blown away at the outrage...
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So if I got to the movies, can I tell my friends about it?
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Ners what you did, while well intentioned, honestly I would consider in poor taste. But it's not that big of a deal. I think it's silly that some of these guys get so worked up about stuff like this. Oh well I'm sure you won't lose any sleep. I know I won't. You will however surely be going straight to hell for you lack of manly honor :)
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Love this fight about whether info that was completely wrong was stolen or not.
Guess what if premium info is true it gets out sooner rather than later. There's no stopping that.
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Ziggy - to answer your question, I have no idea what is up. I too heard from good sources yesterday that he was making his decision yesterday and would let it be known today. So far nothing. Is he having second thoughts? Can he just not decide? Does he want one school where his family wants another? Who knows.
One thing I will say is that I have been trying to get info on it all day, and am coming up empty. The fact that I can't get an answer in either direction, tells me that the kid is still struggling with the decision and the coaches recruiting him are fighting with everything they have to convince him why they should be the choice.
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Premium info ain't that good anymore, Buzz keeps it to the vest. I get better tips off my rivals national board subscription. I've posted info from there on this board and no one had a problem with it, got many a thanks.
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Wow...took you all of you two lines to revert to calling names? I'm done with this. If you're too ignorant to see what's wrong with taking premium info and posting that on a free board, I can't help you.
And yes, it reverts to you being a "man" and doing what is right. You stole intellectual property and moved it from a paid site to a non-paying site. Look back in this thread, the moderator of this board even agrees what you did is suspect at best, I guess that's good enough for me. You do what you need to do Man. It's just not something I would do.
Like I said, do whatever you need to do Man, it's your world, the rest of us are just pawns in it....
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Stone Cold - Really?
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Like I said, do whatever you need to do, it's your world, the rest of us are just pawns in it....
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Ners what you did, while well intentioned, honestly I would consider in poor taste. But it's not that big of a deal. I think it's silly that some of these guys get so worked up about stuff like this. Oh well I'm sure you won't lose any sleep. I know I won't. You will however surely be going straight to hell for you lack of manly honor :)
That's fair enough - I had NO idea there was this type of "rivalry" (if you will) between this site and the Scout site. Clearly, there is a BIG rivalry. I've enjoyed reading both boards and being a subscriber to Scout for awhile...
All of this said, I sincerely apologize to those who were offended, and to Mark Miller - there was NO malice of any variety in my intentions...and I guess you can just call me ignorant..as I'm not that well read on media law as it pertains to information you gain as a subscriber to a media source.
Having said this, I do think the folks at Scout need to relax...to those who want more info on the Marquette program..and happenings..they will subscribe as they want. for ocasional content that gets shared over here..let it go...it might actually induce MORE people to subscribe..as they see how much they may be missing out on. Instead of having a paranoid and fear-based outlook, perhaps the folks at Scout could benefit by sharing MORE with the also die-hard MU fans at Scoop..and as such might induce more subscriptions. Think abundantly, and not fearfully.
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Ziggy - to answer your question, I have no idea what is up. I too heard from good sources yesterday that he was making his decision yesterday and would let it be known today. So far nothing. Is he having second thoughts? Can he just not decide? Does he want one school where his family wants another? Who knows.
One thing I will say is that I have been trying to get info on it all day, and am coming up empty. The fact that I can't get an answer in either direction, tells me that the kid is still struggling with the decision and the coaches recruiting him are fighting with everything they have to convince him why they should be the choice.
Thanks for the additional insight IWB...this process has to be in some ways just as hard on a kid as it is the coaching staffs at the schools in contention.
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Especially when there is a set of certain variables you can't control. ;)
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So iwb while we have you over here care to comment on the whole hood committing today thingy.
ZiggysFryBoy....often imitated, never duplicated. ;D
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I4 is such a tanning bed dickhead.
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Stone Cold - Really?
Yeah. I appreciate the job you and Mark Miller have done over the years. I've subscribed to Mark's former newsletter and followed you at rivals and was a premium member for the first few years you had your board on scout.
All the info gets out eventually and I guess it didn't mean that much anymore to me to be the first guy to know. It's your right to make a buck or two off the fanaticism of MU fans and you provide a service. But I enjoy sharing the info I've gotten from rivals with the marquette community and I know plenty of that goes on, on the scout premium board.
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I could be way off base with this, but it was anounnced today that Tony Woods, 6-10 center at Wake Forest, was transferring to loserville. Maybe hood is rethinking decision?
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Free music isn't (so) free any more because of the iPod...that is the point. The Burns Bros. are charging for their new release via Comcast, iPhone, net for VOD. Straight to video in a few weeks for retail. What is DTV doing to play protect? Gladwell and Anderson's dwelled on the "Freemium" debate (think ESPN). Gladwell is like you, trying to find the currency to protect. Anderson sees the broader access "means to an end". Gladwell argued free is not sustainable.
btw, loved your weeping CEO on "Undercover Boss". Good segment.
He didn't weep, but he did get emotional...he's a good guy. Jesuit educated (Boston College - liberal arts background) and really is that nice of a guy. It's funny, he was in my office a few months ago and saw all the Marquette stuff (yes folks, I'm a MU fan and proud of it despite the inane comments here at times from those that actually think I'm not). He immediately said, "do you know Father Leahy?". We proceeded to chat Jesuit education, MU, BC for quite some time. Very personable man. Unlike any other CEO I've ever worked for, that includes Chase Carey now at Fox, Michael Eisner at Disney, etc. All of them were very smart, but this guy has a human element that is easy to identify right from the start.
Yes, I understand the article and the content. It's an interesting debate, but where I think too many incorrect parallels are made (not necessarily in this particular article) is comparing some of these industries. They are so incredibly different. If I had a nickle for every time someone said the tv industry is going to way of the record \ iTunes industry I'd be a multi millionaire by now. The record industry didn't control the pipes and their cost of producing their content was small. The tv industry is so so so different, including who controls the pipes and the amount of money that goes into producing content. It's one of the few bipartisan issues as well, because of who is impacted. It doesn't mean the tv world isn't going to be changing with Over The Top distribution, it most certainly is. The internet will play a huge role as well, absolute no one is deny this...and all the MSO's are very much in that space now or will be very soon.
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You paid to view it not distribute it. Just because you bought a ticket to the movie theater doesn't mean you can bring in your movie camera and distribute it. People do it and get away with it but if you are one of the people they decide to go after you end up paying a lot more then your monthly subscription. For this type of thing it isn't worth it though.
Correct, but it doesn't prevent you from going on every movie site and telling the entire story, including the ending to the movie.
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Hello there .. been out of contact for the day.
Just caught up on this thread. Want to chime in that the official policy here is that we want to respect Dodds' premium info. It's a business, they take money and give you premium info, and you have to respect that.
Don't take info from the premium site for basically one reason. Dodds gets all uptight about it and can make life difficult for the moderators.
muguru and djgoldenboy, instead of getting all fussy as well, use the "report to moderator" button.
Personally, I think the premium board is a giant waste of money. I don't need to spend $10 a month to boost my ego about having "inside" info or feeling part of a special club. Whenever premium subscribers talk about it here, they talk down on MUScoop.
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Don't take info from the premium site for basically one reason. Dodds gets all uptight about it and can make life difficult for the moderators.
Well .. in response to that, I'll say that the ones protesting the most in this thread are subscribers to the premium board, protecting their prized info they thought they'd be the only ones privvy to, since they ponied up.
IWB has posted, but it's been more of a warning to others about the law, moreso than a protest.
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He didn't weep, but he did get emotional...he's a good guy. Jesuit educated (Boston College - liberal arts background) and really is that nice of a guy. It's funny, he was in my office a few months ago and saw all the Marquette stuff (yes folks, I'm a MU fan and proud of it despite the inane comments here at times from those that actually think I'm not). He immediately said, "do you know Father Leahy?". We proceeded to chat Jesuit education, MU, BC for quite some time. Very personable man. Unlike any other CEO I've ever worked for, that includes Chase Carey now at Fox, Michael Eisner at Disney, etc. All of them were very smart, but this guy has a human element that is easy to identify right from the start.
Yes, I understand the article and the content. It's an interesting debate, but where I think too many incorrect parallels are made (not necessarily in this particular article) is comparing some of these industries. They are so incredibly different. If I had a nickle for every time someone said the tv industry is going to way of the record \ iTunes industry I'd be a multi millionaire by now. The record industry didn't control the pipes and their cost of producing their content was small. The tv industry is so so so different, including who controls the pipes and the amount of money that goes into producing content. It's one of the few bipartisan issues as well, because of who is impacted. It doesn't mean the tv world isn't going to be changing with Over The Top distribution, it most certainly is. The internet will play a huge role as well, absolute no one is deny this...and all the MSO's are very much in that space now or will be very soon.
I agree with you that sometimes a "guy has a human element that is easy to identify right from the start". And it doesn't mean you're "polishing his knob" when you recognize it ;)
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Why would Mark Miller ever post here again with all the pot shots about the worthlessness of the information? Sheesh.
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Who said the information was useless? He was just reporting what he was hearing.
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Why would Mark Miller ever post here again with all the pot shots about the worthlessness of the information? Sheesh.
For every action there is a reaction. I made an honest mistake and took something I learned from being a subscriber to the Scout site..and shared here. I didn't see it in my terms and conditions for the subscription that I couldn't share information I paid for...
That aside..I got drilled HERE by some of the Scout die hards..after getting multiple PMs from people from the Scout site and numerous posts here calling me a "stealer," implying I'm not a man, etc...thus my REACTION where I made the comment that it would be ironic in this case..if the premium info weren't accurate...I'm not dissing Mark Miller, and have great respect for him and IWB and the Scout site...but when run of the mill subscribers and posters from over there go off on me..I felt it necessary in my defense to float the notion that if I pay from "premuim information," and it turns out to not be accurate..then does it really have any value..and therefore should I be entitled to a refund?? I don't want a refund from Scout, want to continue to be a member there..and am not that stupid to realize that things can change in an instant with regard to a recruits timeline/decision-making process..so have no ill-will toward Mark Miller..nor was I trying to devalue his information/service he provides..but instead was reacting to the attacks launched against me..
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Secondly, if we are losing recruits because of the comments of a fan or fans....wow, talk about thin skinned. What are they going to do when Buzz yells at them at practice, wet themselves? What are they going to do when an opposing team mocks them at the free throw line...run off the court? Please.
That's what Badgers fans told themselves about recruits they lost. "We never cost Bucky a recruit by what we said on a message board. Oh, but if we did, he wasn't tough enough for us anyway." Great philosophy. Sorta fulfills itself.
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I agree with you that sometimes a "guy has a human element that is easy to identify right from the start". And it doesn't mean you're "polishing his knob" when you recognize it ;)
Very true....until he does something to someone (or a kid) that makes you throw that opinion right into the toilet. ;)
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That's what Badgers fans told themselves about recruits they lost. "We never cost Bucky a recruit by what we said on a message board. Oh, but if we did, he wasn't tough enough for us anyway." Great philosophy. Sorta fulfills itself.
If kids are choosing to leave or go to a specific school because of message board chatter, than God help us all. That should be reason number 50 out of 50 reasons to choose or not choose a school to attend. Well after the quality of the coaching, the school, the academics, the teammates, the ability to play at the next level, the hotness of the girls, etc, etc, etc.
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You may not think it true but there have been at least two occasions when parents of players were turned off by stuff they saw on MU message boards. Perhaps not dispositive but contributing to outcomes. Those in marketing should understand that it isn't one thing stated but an overall impression resulting from frequent exposure. It does make a difference. We earn our reputations every day, not just now and then.
If kids are choosing to leave or go to a specific school because of message board chatter, than God help us all. That should be reason number 50 out of 50 reasons to choose or not choose a school to attend. Well after the quality of the coaching, the school, the academics, the teammates, the ability to play at the next level, the hotness of the girls, etc, etc, etc.
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If kids are choosing to leave or go to a specific school because of message board chatter, than God help us all. That should be reason number 50 out of 50 reasons to choose or not choose a school to attend. Well after the quality of the coaching, the school, the academics, the teammates, the ability to play at the next level, the hotness of the girls, etc, etc, etc.
We do know that Vander Blue was affected by how the Bucky community treated him on their message boards. I don't think we should by any means discount the role these boards can play in recruitment. It may seem weird, but we are talking about 16 year old kids - hell, most of us as grown adults wouldn't respond well to seeing our name "in print" and being talked about in a negative fashion. Furthermore, I don't think it would be beyond any of us as adults to check out a "social network" site of a company we were considering going to work for..to get a feel for the company..and if upon going there...we saw our name being disparaged?? Major turn off. Now, that is only amplified for a 16 year old kid. Come on Chicos..you can't merely dismiss this forum and its "role" in recruiting.
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Very true....until he does something to someone (or a kid) that makes you throw that opinion right into the toilet. ;)
Like "throwing" a potted plant? Back to the publically weeping/emotional CEO, can he make the tough calls to lay off people without "crapping his pants" at the BOD meeting or during an interview? Will you wait five years before you make a judgment on him? ;)
j/k no answer needed
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You may not think it true but there have been at least two occasions when parents of players were turned off by stuff they saw on MU message boards. Perhaps not dispositive but contributing to outcomes. Those in marketing should understand that it isn't one thing stated but an overall impression resulting from frequent exposure. It does make a difference. We earn our reputations every day, not just now and then.
Doesn't the Athletic Department direct parents and recruits to the Scout message board? Broeker and company are smart enough to know which message board is more likely to have impressions favorable of Marquette.
Get Dodds to clean up that board. There are potential recruits at stake that might be reading.
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We do know that Vander Blue was affected by how the Bucky community treated him on their message boards. I don't think we should by any means discount the role these boards can play in recruitment. It may seem weird, but we are talking about 16 year old kids - hell, most of us as grown adults wouldn't respond well to seeing our name "in print" and being talked about in a negative fashion. Furthermore, I don't think it would be beyond any of us as adults to check out a "social network" site of a company we were considering going to work for..to get a feel for the company..and if upon going there...we saw our name being disparaged?? Major turn off. Now, that is only amplified for a 16 year old kid. Come on Chicos..you can't merely dismiss this forum and its "role" in recruiting.
I'll go a step further and suggest that in the age of social media, Twitter, facebook and message boards make an impression on a recruit more than the shiny catalogue from the engineering department. We can dedicate a thread to whether that should be the case, but it is.
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Why would Mark Miller ever post here again with all the pot shots about the worthlessness of the information? Sheesh.
This is the over-dramatic reaction of a 14 year-old girl. Never did anyone question the worth of Mark Miller's information --- though considering it looks likely Hood won't announce his decision on Sunday one has to wonder if all the information presented as premium has equal worth to everyone. Regardless, whether they kiss his ass or not, his target audience is the MU fanbase and its always good business to play to the base.
Ners is a very passionate fan for MU and with Hood a prime prospect all summer long it seemed pretty innocuous what he posted as we all follow the developments of a decision. Suddenly, he gets called less then a man and bombarded by the "premiums" as if he stole their dignity. Strangely and hypocritically pathetic what happened this quiet afternoon.
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Correct, but it doesn't prevent you from going on every movie site and telling the entire story, including the ending to the movie.
Technically, it does. If the movie is copyrighted, which 100% are, then you can't use or distribute the material in an unapproved manner. If you were to go onto a site and use names, pictures, or likenesses in your description then they could come after you and shut the site down. Without those things, your "entire story" would be pretty worthless. It isn't worth their time and effort because they get a marginal benefit which is free publicity and interest in the movie. Just because they don't, doesn't mean that you are on the right side of the law. If, for whatever reason, you were to make a ridiculous amount of money on that I am sure it would then make it worth their time.
At the end of the day, no one from Scout is going to pursue legal action but what it might do is limit what information gets posted.
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Not to keep dragging this out, but the initial poater was in direct violation of Fox/Scout terms of use policy that he/she agreed to when registering/subscribing....
Section 6D: D. Except for User Content posted by you, you may not copy, modify, translate, publish, broadcast, transmit, distribute, perform, display, or sell any Content appearing on the Site or through the Site Services.
And, for anyone to think that what is posted here, MarquetteHoops, Cracked Sidewalks or any other unofficial Marquette site does not affect recruits is absolutely assenine. I know of several recruits of both MU and other schools, where message boards, INCLUDING THIS ONE, have affected decisions.
Think before you post.
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Technically, it does. If the movie is copyrighted, which 100% are, then you can't use or distribute the material in an unapproved manner. If you were to go onto a site and use names, pictures, or likenesses in your description then they could come after you and shut the site down. Without those things, your "entire story" would be pretty worthless. It isn't worth their time and effort because they get a marginal benefit which is free publicity and interest in the movie. Just because they don't, doesn't mean that you are on the right side of the law. If, for whatever reason, you were to make a ridiculous amount of money on that I am sure it would then make it worth their time.
At the end of the day, no one from Scout is going to pursue legal action but what it might do is limit what information gets posted.
I agree, no videos, pictures, etc...but that's not what I said. There would be nothing to stop someone legally from saying in general terms what happens in the movie, the plot, the ending, who's killed or not, etc.
Whether it's worthless, I don't necessarily agree. Of course that is not an apt comparison for what we're talking about in this particular case. One doesn't need photographs or video to describe a kid may or may not be making a decision about where he is going to attend school.
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Like "throwing" a potted plant? Back to the publically weeping/emotional CEO, can he make the tough calls to lay off people without "crapping his pants" at the BOD meeting or during an interview? Will you wait five years before you make a judgment on him? ;)
j/k no answer needed
Happy to answer....I don't know. And yes, we'll have to wait a number of years to find out (that's the honest truth). So far so good. ;)
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We do know that Vander Blue was affected by how the Bucky community treated him on their message boards. I don't think we should by any means discount the role these boards can play in recruitment. It may seem weird, but we are talking about 16 year old kids - hell, most of us as grown adults wouldn't respond well to seeing our name "in print" and being talked about in a negative fashion. Furthermore, I don't think it would be beyond any of us as adults to check out a "social network" site of a company we were considering going to work for..to get a feel for the company..and if upon going there...we saw our name being disparaged?? Major turn off. Now, that is only amplified for a 16 year old kid. Come on Chicos..you can't merely dismiss this forum and its "role" in recruiting.
I'm not dismissing it. I'm sure it has an effect on some kids. Hell, I remember Faisal Abraham choosing MU because he liked our practice shorts. Different strokes for different folks. All I'm saying if it's "THE REASON" then that's really saying something. What happens when the first negative article is written in the papers, or a broadcaster says the kid blew it on a defensive rotation and cost the team the game, etc, etc? I would hope we have thicker skinned "tough" (Marquette Tough) players coming to MU.
All that being said, that's why I personally try very hard not to attack players...they're kids in my mind, even the ones that are older. They bust their butts, work hard, balance basketball and school. They become public figures even though many don't want to. I haven't always succeeded, but I try like crazy not to. That's always been a pet peeve of mine.
Now, I'm curious why you think the same rules don't apply for coaches, past or present? ;)
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I'll go a step further and suggest that in the age of social media, Twitter, facebook and message boards make an impression on a recruit more than the shiny catalogue from the engineering department. We can dedicate a thread to whether that should be the case, but it is.
If that's the case, then what is to stop fans from another school that is recruiting the same kid to completely...ahem...sabotage the other school? If it's having THAT much influence, then the chance for mischief at other schools is going to get insane.
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I agree, no videos, pictures, etc...but that's not what I said. There would be nothing to stop someone legally from saying in general terms what happens in the movie, the plot, the ending, who's killed or not, etc.
Whether it's worthless, I don't necessarily agree. Of course that is not an apt comparison for what we're talking about in this particular case. One doesn't need photographs or video to describe a kid may or may not be making a decision about where he is going to attend school.
You said, "telling the entire story, including the ending to the movie." Sorry, if I interpreted your "entire story" as generalities. Please tell me about the guy with magic like powers who destroys this big space station at the end of the movie. To make if of interest to your audience, you would need to say names(who's killed), places, title of the movie, etc. That is all copyrighted. It isn't limited to just photographs or video. Have you ever noticed that every Verizon commercial with the Droid phone ends with fine print saying that is the property of LucasFilms? You are technically distributing copyrighted information when you post on a site about the movie (if you are giving any information).
This is an apt comparison as we are talking about content. The difference is that the content that is posted on the premium board isn't proprietary and they aren't writing it. People can get the information from more than one source so it is extremely hard to prove that the user got it from the premium board which is why in most cases it isn't worth the effort to pursue. This doesn't make it legal. Once the user identified his "source" as the Scout site, it now means his subscription can be cancelled because he broke the terms and conditions of use. If Dodds decides to do that is another thing.
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Dodds threatened to tell ESPN that I was posting videos of game highlights on scoop, but he said if I posted them over at his site instead he would be able to work out a deal allowing me to do it.
I kept posting the videos here and nothing ever came of his threats.
I'm all for stealing that asshat's premium content.
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Well...all this 'asshat' has ever tried to do was to have a hobby that involves Marquette Basketball. I was a student assistant from '78 to '82 and have been statistician at games since 1985. In the late '90s, other than Homer's radio show for 2 hrs at night, I felt that MU was getting short shrift in the media so I decided to buy time on the radio and have a 1 hr radio show that was dedicated to promoting an undercovered team...MU's basketball team. The website came from trying to stream the radio show which ended in 2004.
Now...I operate a Marquette recruiting website as a hobby because I love Marquette basketball.....I get back from working at the Packer game and read that some guy named TallTitan...has accused me of 'blackmail'...he says that I have threatened him....yet luckily...nothing ever came of my threats.....hmmm....drum roll....it might be ...just maybe ...because it never quite happened the way that he remembered.
BTW: this 'asshat' spent about 1 hr and 30 min talking with Kevin Buckley tonight...out of concern that people might get the wrong idea about me. I operate an insurance business and the Marquette Hoops.com website as a hobby….hopefully in a professional manner…and I got a little concerned that my good name ..my real name….was being put into the gutter….so I signed up for a screen name at Kevin's suggestion to give the other side of the story.
My recollection was that I was looking for a video production expert and I had seen TallTitan's work on YouTube and I was impressed so I sent an email to him about working at our site. But I told him that we could not use the ESPN or CBS highlights that he used because of copyright issues...ESPN would never agree to post highlights on our site because it is owned by Fox Sports, a competitor. What I was thinking was to shoot some of our own video at games and having him edit it for the site...I think I followed up with the Bradley Center and Marquette to see if a highlight package could be made of the scoreboard video...and when they said ..’No’....I forgot about the idea...I might have mentioned as a ‘heads up’ to him that ESPN looks at You Tube over the internet and might ask YouTube or TallTitan to take the highlight package down. I meant it as a friendly ‘heads up’…ie: why spend 30 min editing a highlight package when it could be deleted. [hey…if ESPN does not find it or care…go for it…]
My intent was to have TallTitan work for me at our site....I cannot imagine how it got misinterpreted to being ‘threatening’...or ‘black mail’...I am an attorney and I try to be precise…was the email something I drafted quickly between phone calls? I cannot remember. I never thought about it since until tonight...the email has to be 2 or 3 yrs ago..maybe longer......but when someone wants help at his website....I hardly think he is going to be threatening....that sure was not my intent...reading this thread there just seems to be some glee in calling me an ‘asshat’....and I think it was misplaced. I don’t know if something else is going on here..is there some other agenda going on?….I don’t even know TallTitans real name. I do know that when someone accuses ‘John Dodds’ of black mail on a message board, it has more impact that accusing someone with a screen name of blackmail….do you understand my concern? What if it happened to you? Thanks.
John F. Dodds
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What happens when the first negative article is written in the papers, or a broadcaster says the kid blew it on a defensive rotation and cost the team the game, etc, etc? I would hope we have thicker skinned "tough" (Marquette Tough) players coming to MU.
I work with a lot of companies as a partner. About a month ago, one of my partners comes to me and says I can't close this $4 million deal because our services group can't agree on the terms and conditions, would you be willing to do it on your paper. Of course, I am excited for the op so I get on the phone with the client and I start to talk to them about why they couldn't reach agreement. They said, "If this is the honeymoon with that partner then I don't want any part of the marriage."
I tell that story because it is pretty similar to this. If during the time when you are trying to woo your client and close the deal (honeymoon), you are ripping them a part or making it hard for them to work with you then what is it going to be like when you are delivering (marriage). If at the time you are trying to get a recruit and you are saying he isn't good enough for you what are you going to say and how are you going to treat him when he is already on campus.
At the end of the deal, the service group ended up losing about $1.5 million for my partner. Many of deals are lost because of what happens during that period so keep in mind what you say about a recruit.
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I work with a lot of companies as a partner. About a month ago, one of my partners comes to me and says I can't close this $4 million deal because our services group can't agree on the terms and conditions, would you be willing to do it on your paper. Of course, I am excited for the op so I get on the phone with the client and I start to talk to them about why they couldn't reach agreement. They said, "If this is the honeymoon with that partner then I don't want any part of the marriage."
I tell that story because it is pretty similar to this. If during the time when you are trying to woo your client and close the deal (honeymoon), you are ripping them a part or making it hard for them to work with you then what is it going to be like when you are delivering (marriage). If at the time you are trying to get a recruit and you are saying he isn't good enough for you what are you going to say and how are you going to treat him when he is already on campus.
At the end of the deal, the service group ended up losing about $1.5 million for my partner. Many of deals are lost because of what happens during that period so keep in mind what you say about a recruit.
I get it
But let's put it in practical examples here. Rarely, and I mean extremely rarely, has a particular recruit or player been trashed let alone continually. There may be a post or two by someone that doesn't like the kid's game, says he's slow, worried about qualifying, plays a position were are stocked at, etc. That seems to be different than the example you are offering...I could be wrong (I often am).
What is in bounds and out of bounds in your opinion? That might help.
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Maybe he's upset with the threat that was made against him for posting videos? Wouldn't be the first time. Just sayin
Chico’s...what is this supposed to mean? What threats? Give me some examples?
BTW..I wish I had a $1.00 for every time you have mentioned the fact that I banned you. I could retire early. I know it is a badge of honor for you. Why do you think I banned you? Just curious...why?
Could it have been that you were driving me nuts with the 'gorilla marketing' you were doing on our message boards? Constant...links and posts...5 in an hour to Cracked Sidewalks...then when I asked you to tone it down...then 10 to 20 more posts with multiple screen names about our site’s ‘unfair linking practices’....monitoring my site became a hassle. I went to a fish fry before practice and 20 people came up to me and asked me about you…and why you kept posting….I wanted to watch MU basketball and not talk about YOU….then someone hears me comment and emails you…and you send an email telling me to stop ripping you…..HELP!
This is a hobby for me...it cannot be a hassle...you made it a hassle so I banned you...and I associated you with Cracked Sidewalks...perhaps a mistake on my part...after talking to Kevin Buckley...I hope to do more with Cracked Sidewalks....I have always enjoyed talking to Tim in NYC....and Kevin in Milw.
I told Kevin tonight....a trivia question....when I needed counsel in '99 for streaming my website on the net....whom did I call?
YOU!
...because I respected your knowledge. We talked for awhile before the Kansas game in 2003….Then less than 5 yrs later...you bugged the absolute hell out of me as a moderator....so I banned Chico’s...Striped Tomato and the other 30 screen names....and when I asked you in an email in absolute exasperation…”how can you spend so much time on our boards?...can’t you do something more productive..Like hug your kid or do something for mankind?”
You come to this board and post that Dodds is ‘even offering me advice on how to raise my children…and he isn’t even married.” Then the replies…geeze…Dodds…what a jerk…. When I say ‘Hello’, to someone…at an MU game and they turn and look at me like I am about to pick their pocket….I figure…’Oh…must be a friend of Chicos.’
I tell people that whenever Chico’s rips me on Scoops, an angel gets its wings. It makes me feel better, esp. around Xmas.
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Dodds...welcome to MU Scoop.
I see you have followed the steps that many of your other former posters have and come over here.
You know, you used to always have a saying, that is when you weren't telling posters how to parent their children, about how you never understood how the Milwaukee media treated MU fans. You felt they were always treating them as second class citizens of some kind and were essentially giving up on a nice chunk of the market that was interesting in MU.
Think about it.
Good to have you aboard.
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Now I remember why I rarely post on this board. It's a wasteland of personal assaults and sarcasm. Hardly ever anything positive about the program.
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Dodds...welcome to MU Scoop.
I see you have followed the steps that many of your other former posters have and come over here.
You know, you used to always have a saying, that is when you weren't telling posters how to parent their children, about how you never understood how the Milwaukee media treated MU fans. You felt they were always treating them as second class citizens of some kind and were essentially giving up on a nice chunk of the market that was interesting in MU.
Think about it.
Good to have you aboard.
Interesting....I always wondered if under the great facade of 'we are all just one big happy family of Marquette fans under this huge tent'.....there was some deeper agenda going on...where there was a purpose to your 'rips’ of me and our site...and to your constant posting with links away from our site...hmmm....please tell me that I misjudged you....just saying....
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Hitting IGNORE buttons.....................NOW! ;)
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*Yawn*
So I assume that nothing new has come out regarding the Rodney Hood announcement, or is there actually something of use hidden in all of this finger-pointing, name-calling, and general childish behavior?
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wow... just, wow... i missed the boards this weekend and saw this thread hoping for some info about Hood and his possible announcement. I did not see this train-wreck of a thread coming. is it at least possible to change the title of this thread so other innocent readers don't make the mistake i did?
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Now that there is the other thread maybe this one can get back on track.
Before the report that started this thread came out, there were lots of reports saying he would make a decision sometime this week.
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Someday the title of this thread will be correct.
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Now I remember why I rarely post on this board. It's a wasteland of personal assaults and sarcasm. Hardly ever anything positive about the program.
Thanks for sharing.
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Rabble rabble rabble!!!
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rarely ever do i agree with chicos but I have to in this case.
Strange that Dodds likes to call himself Stalin but then gets so emotional when people call him out on some of his actions. I sincerely doubt that the real Stalin was so emotional and concerned about his public perception if he was so resolute in his beliefs. Do you think Stalin went to the Jews meassage board and asked them why they did not like him and try to explain what really happened? Please give it a break. Some like Scout, some like to pay to feel a part of something. Some dont. Who cares?! Some like Pepsi , some like Coke.
Lastly, since the Scout people are now monitoring the boards and are so concerned about recruit perceptions I have a lingering question....It has been said recruits read the boards and develop perceptions then why...drum roll please....Does almost every single other Scout website call a recruit and interview him after a visit yet the MU Scout board does not?
Look at all the guys Mu is recruiting after every visit there is an article about that player and his visit when they visit other schools. You dont think that when a guy calls from Louisville or a Maryland board and asks a recruit about his visit and publishes an article it does not give that player some love? How big of a part of the dicison making process is that? Who knows. But it seems when a player visits 3 schools and gives three interviews and then visits MU...crickets....and there is some article about last years recruits.
Just sayin
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Now I remember why I rarely post on this board. It's a wasteland of personal assaults and sarcasm. Hardly ever anything positive about the program.
I feel personally assaulted by these comments.
Or were you being sarcastic?
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rarely ever do i agree with chicos but I have to in this case.
Strange that Dodds likes to call himself Stalin but then gets so emotional when people call him out on some of his actions. I sincerely doubt that the real Stalin was so emotional and concerned about his public perception if he was so resolute in his beliefs. Do you think Stalin went to the Jews meassage board and asked them why they did not like him and try to explain what really happened? Please give it a break. Some like Scout, some like to pay to feel a part of something. Some dont. Who cares?! Some like Pepsi , some like Coke.
Lastly, since the Scout people are now monitoring the boards and are so concerned about recruit perceptions I have a lingering question....It has been said recruits read the boards and develop perceptions then why...drum roll please....Does almost every single other Scout website call a recruit and interview him after a visit yet the MU Scout board does not?
Look at all the guys Mu is recruiting after every visit there is an article about that player and his visit when they visit other schools. You dont think that when a guy calls from Louisville or a Maryland board and asks a recruit about his visit and publishes an article it does not give that player some love? How big of a part of the dicison making process is that? Who knows. But it seems when a player visits 3 schools and gives three interviews and then visits MU...crickets....and there is some article about last years recruits.
Just sayin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law
Close enough, I think.
I'd be cool with a lock. :)
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rarely ever do i agree with chicos but I have to in this case.
Strange that Dodds likes to call himself Stalin but then gets so emotional when people call him out on some of his actions. I sincerely doubt that the real Stalin was so emotional and concerned about his public perception if he was so resolute in his beliefs. Do you think Stalin went to the Jews meassage board and asked them why they did not like him and try to explain what really happened? Please give it a break. Some like Scout, some like to pay to feel a part of something. Some dont. Who cares?! Some like Pepsi , some like Coke.
Lastly, since the Scout people are now monitoring the boards and are so concerned about recruit perceptions I have a lingering question....It has been said recruits read the boards and develop perceptions then why...drum roll please....Does almost every single other Scout website call a recruit and interview him after a visit yet the MU Scout board does not?
Look at all the guys Mu is recruiting after every visit there is an article about that player and his visit when they visit other schools. You dont think that when a guy calls from Louisville or a Maryland board and asks a recruit about his visit and publishes an article it does not give that player some love? How big of a part of the dicison making process is that? Who knows. But it seems when a player visits 3 schools and gives three interviews and then visits MU...crickets....and there is some article about last years recruits.
Just sayin
Can you imagine if recruits or his coaches actually read this board and Rodney Hood reviewed this thread about him. He would think there were a bunch insane idiots at MU.
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Can you imagine if recruits or his coaches actually read this board and Rodney Hood reviewed this thread about him. He would think there were a bunch insane idiots at MU.
No he would think MU was filled with a bunch of:
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No he would think MU was filled with a bunch of:
Way to go Reinko.... starting the debate on how stealing bandwidth (via linking picture) is still stealing.
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This has to be the nerdiest threat ever created.
A simple misunderstanding by the original poster and another website, a subsequent apology from said poster, and then 70 posts of fighting/debating between internet basketball dorks about all sorts of nonsense, most of which stems from some sort of Jets vs Sharks turf rivalry.
/Makes me ashamed to be a internet basketball dork.
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This has to be the nerdiest threat ever created.
A simple misunderstanding by the original poster and another website, a subsequent apology from said poster, and then 70 posts of fighting/debating between internet basketball dorks about all sorts of nonsense, most of which stems from some sort of Jets vs Sharks turf rivalry.
/Makes me ashamed to be a internet basketball dork.
Bet you never thought you'd long for a 5 page Buzz vs Crean thread.
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Bet you never thought you'd long for a 5 page Buzz vs Crean thread.
Correct.
Hell, let's have a bunch of white guys debate the affects of Native American imagery again, that would be close to as ridiculous as this thread.
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Dodds get's a bad rap here. He's a fellow MU grad and hoops fanatic... we should give him a bit more respect.
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Not sure if anyone cares but I made an awesome grilled cheese tonight. I used colby jack and havarti on pan turano bread mmmmmm.
That was MY havarti, you thief!