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Hope this kid is the real deal, but when was the last time Dominican turned out a D1 talent who made a splash?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on August 03, 2010, 04:04:51 PM
Hope this kid is the real deal, but when was the last time Dominican turned out a D1 talent who made a splash?
I thought Dominicans were only good at baseball ?-(
Kwamain Mitchell has started for two years at Saint Louis.
J.R. Blount started for four years at Loyola.
I realize those teams do not compete in the Big East, but both Kwamain and J.R. have had great careers.
Andy Kowske also wasn't too bad at Wisconsin.
Shannon Smith once blocked a Michael Jordan dunk at his camp.
haha hope he takes his time to fill out the application before summer school starts.
glancing at the thread title, and being a 30 year cigar smoker-- I thought we were offering a new brand of Dominican made cigars--lol
Quote from: MarkMiller on August 03, 2010, 04:09:48 PM
Kwamain Mitchell has started for two years at Saint Louis.
J.R. Blount started for four years at Loyola.
I realize those teams do not compete in the Big East, but both Kwamain and J.R. have had great careers.
Andy Kowske also wasn't too bad at Wisconsin.
Ray Nixon wasn't too bad either for the Badgers
I was also thinking we had a cigar contact. Damn!
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on August 03, 2010, 04:08:00 PM
I thought Dominicans were only good at baseball ?-(
Back in the day. I knew the coach, he was very good.
Waaaaaay back wasn't Nick Van Excel from Domincan?
Van Exel was from Racine.
I'm not positive but I thought Van Exel went to Saint Joseph's in Kenosha.
Kenosha is correct
Kenosha must be proud.
Yep, St. Joe's it is. I stand erected.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on August 03, 2010, 08:01:42 PM
Yep, St. Joe's it is. I stand erected.
But your comedy is limp. Every day.
Greg Dandridge was a pretty good player from Dominican.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on August 03, 2010, 04:04:51 PM
Hope this kid is the real deal, but when was the last time Dominican turned out a D1 talent who made a splash?
Are you kidding the kids already been offered by Indiana State. Don't expect Wardle and Green Bay to go to sleep on this kid either!
Is this guy the best player in his class out of all the Milwaukee County high schools?
Quote from: Brewtown Andy on August 04, 2010, 07:20:49 AM
Is this guy the best player in his class out of all the Milwaukee County high schools?
As of right now, yes.
It's definitely too early to tell how good this kid will be and where he will rank within the state 3 years from now. That being said, even if he isn't Top100 recruit by the time he graduates, I'm ok with it. I'm a firm believer that great teams are put over the top by the lesser known and lowly touted reserve players. Essentially role players that play 10ish mpg, but play smart and do what is asked of them.
Further, Buzz is filling this team with Top100 guys already. At some point, there just isn't going to be enough playing time to go around, thus making Marquette a less attractive destination for a blue chipper.
In conclusion, I trust Buzz's instincts on this early offer.
Quote from: OhioGoldenEagle on August 04, 2010, 08:37:20 AM
At some point, there just isn't going to be enough playing time to go around, thus making Marquette a less attractive destination for a blue chipper.
Top 40 players won't be scared by a little competition at their position. They're can't-miss players for a reason. If they're as good as they're projected to be, PT won't be an issue on most teams.
Buzz wants to sign a point guard every year. Assuming he does some of them have to be back up point guards.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on August 04, 2010, 09:31:00 AM
Top 40 players won't be scared by a little competition at their position. They're can't-miss players for a reason. If they're as good as they're projected to be, PT won't be an issue on most teams.
It's possible. However, looking ahead to the 2011-2012 team, essentially half of the team is comprised of Top100 guys.
PG - Junior Cadougan
SG - Vander Blue
G/F - Jamail Jones
F - Erik Williams
F - Jamil Wilson
On the cusp of Top100 prospect includes Reggie Smith (G) and Davanate Gardner (PF/C)
Playing like a Top20 prospect includes DJO (G).
I'm just saying that if Buzz continues to bring in multiple Top100 guys each class, and a majority of these guys play at or near their expected level, eventually potential recruits are going to look up and down the roster and see boatloads of talent which means tough competition and little playing time if any at all (especially considering that Buzz hasn't shown much confidence in giving freshman extended game minutes).....which is a HUGE factor when considering a school.
Quote from: OhioGoldenEagle on August 04, 2010, 11:45:58 AM
It's possible. However, looking ahead to the 2011-2012 team, essentially half of the team is comprised of Top100 guys.
PG - Junior Cadougan
SG - Vander Blue
G/F - Jamail Jones
F - Erik Williams
F - Jamil Wilson
On the cusp of Top100 prospect includes Reggie Smith (G) and Davanate Gardner (PF/C)
Playing like a Top20 prospect includes DJO (G).
I'm just saying that if Buzz continues to bring in multiple Top100 guys each class, and a majority of these guys play at or near their expected level, eventually potential recruits are going to look up and down the roster and see boatloads of talent which means tough competition and little playing time if any at all (especially considering that Buzz hasn't shown much confidence in giving freshman extended game minutes).....which is a HUGE factor when considering a school.
BS... Huge factor for a minority of players. Syracuse has no problems recruiting top talent even with a loaded roster. Neither does, MSU, Duke, UNC, KU, UK, OSU, Texas, and the list can go on.
If playing time was such a HUGE factor, why is it that MU has such a hard time landing high rated bigs? A blue chip big would have started as a freshmen for our team for the majority of the last decade and we couldn't land one. As long as Buzz sticks to his word, plays the best players on the team, and wins games, talented players will come because they know that if they play well enough, they will get PT. That's all that matters.
Quote from: Brewtown Andy on August 04, 2010, 07:20:49 AM
Is this guy the best player in his class out of all the Milwaukee County high schools?
ESPN has Wilson rated a 92 in the class of '13.
http://es.pn/cPQpzu (http://es.pn/cPQpzu)
They have Deonte Burton of Vincent rated 97, and RayVonn Posey out of Washington also at 92.
Looking at the 2013 list raises another question: where do we stand with the Harrison twins (both rated 97 out of Houston's Strake Jesuit).
You would think with Buzz's ties to Houston and the fact that their family obviously values a Jesuit education, we might have a leg up on the usual suspects.
Boy, this is years away. So much can happen by then.
He has a nice smile. :D
Quote from: ErickJD08 on August 04, 2010, 12:24:00 PM
BS... Huge factor for a minority of players. Syracuse has no problems recruiting top talent even with a loaded roster. Neither does, MSU, Duke, UNC, KU, UK, OSU, Texas, and the list can go on.
If playing time was such a HUGE factor, why is it that MU has such a hard time landing high rated bigs? A blue chip big would have started as a freshmen for our team for the majority of the last decade and we couldn't land one. As long as Buzz sticks to his word, plays the best players on the team, and wins games, talented players will come because they know that if they play well enough, they will get PT. That's all that matters.
1. We aren't Duke, North Carolina, Kansas, Texas, etc. Those schools simply reload year after year and make up only a small percentage of D1 basketball. So yes, in these few cases, playing time doesn't figure into most of their equations. But like I said, Marquette doesn't fall into this group.
2. Regarding Centers..... while playing time is a factor IMO, another important factor would be that school's ability to put that particular player in the NBA. While I understand that MU has had success in this department over the past decade, they haven't put 1 center in. Further, since our defection to the Big East and the success of the 3 amigos, we have been labeled as a guard oriented team at the national level. And word on the street is that when Crean was the Head Coach, other schools were negatively recruiting center prospects by telling them that MU is guard oriented and can't develop bigs.
Not to mention the fact that the ratio of quality bigs to guards on the high school level is so imbalanced that the odds of landing a big in the first place are slim. And those that are highly ranked are already going to Georgetown, UNC, Duke, Kansas, etc.
Quote from: Marquette84 on August 04, 2010, 01:09:12 PM
ESPN has Wilson rated a 92 in the class of '13.
http://es.pn/cPQpzu (http://es.pn/cPQpzu)
They have Deonte Burton of Vincent rated 97, and RayVonn Posey out of Washington also at 92.
Looking at the 2013 list raises another question: where do we stand with the Harrison twins (both rated 97 out of Houston's Strake Jesuit).
You would think with Buzz's ties to Houston and the fact that their family obviously values a Jesuit education, we might have a leg up on the usual suspects.
UPDATE of JULY 26:
The Harrison twins are transferring from Strake to Fort Bend TravisHS this fall.
AND
Deonte Burton is leaving Vincent (Milwaukee, Wis.) for Brewster Academy (Wolfeboro, N.H.)....see....
http://www.maxpreps.com/news/suknaZj_Ed-lugAcxJTdpg/harrison-twins-lead-transfer-train.htm
Strake is a very good private Jesuit HS, that started assembling high powered scholly BB teams from local public schools when public and privates merged play a couple of years ago. Maybe the Harrisons lost their "free ride " there.
The "jesuit" connection to Marquette or any jesuit school hasnt been much of a factor---Strake kids shoot for Stanford, Vandy, Duke, Rice, etc....its not that catholic. (example--Andrew Luck, Oliver Luck's (new WV AD)son, went from Strake to QB for Stanford--poss Heisman cand. in 2 years)
Quote from: bma725 on August 04, 2010, 08:07:11 AM
As of right now, yes.
For the class of 2013, as I continue reading? So, Buzz is interested in bringing the best local talent has to offer. Not the worst idea in the world, really.
Quote from: OhioGoldenEagle on August 04, 2010, 01:36:28 PM
1. We aren't Duke, North Carolina, Kansas, Texas, etc. Those schools simply reload year after year and make up only a small percentage of D1 basketball. So yes, in these few cases, playing time doesn't figure into most of their equations. But like I said, Marquette doesn't fall into this group.
2. Regarding Centers..... while playing time is a factor IMO, another important factor would be that school's ability to put that particular player in the NBA. While I understand that MU has had success in this department over the past decade, they haven't put 1 center in. Further, since our defection to the Big East and the success of the 3 amigos, we have been labeled as a guard oriented team at the national level. And word on the street is that when Crean was the Head Coach, other schools were negatively recruiting center prospects by telling them that MU is guard oriented and can't develop bigs.
Not to mention the fact that the ratio of quality bigs to guards on the high school level is so imbalanced that the odds of landing a big in the first place are slim. And those that are highly ranked are already going to Georgetown, UNC, Duke, Kansas, etc.
OK... looking at the top centers, I see commitments to New Mexico, St. Joesph's (totally a guard school), IL, Memphis, MSU, and Minnesota. I don't remember them sending any major bigs to the league. Its not about PT most of the time.
I ask Jamil Wilson and they are cousins.