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"Dwyane Wade said in a recent interview, "If we [the Miami Heat] lose a couple in a row this season ... You all are going to make it seem like the World Trade Center is coming down again."
There is no proper context for a remark of such profound narcissism, but here is the full quote: "We're going to be wearing a bullseye. But that's what you play for. We enjoy the bullseye. Plus, there's going to be times when we lose 2-3 games in a row, and it seems like the world has crashed down. You all are going to make it seem like the World Trade is coming down again, but it's not going to be nothing but a couple basketball games." Fanhouse originally mis-reported Wade's quote, but if he wasn't wearing a bulls-eye before, he is now."
So idiotic.
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on July 18, 2010, 08:29:49 PM
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"Dwyane Wade said in a recent interview, "If we [the Miami Heat] lose a couple in a row this season ... You all are going to make it seem like the World Trade Center is coming down again."
There is no proper context for a remark of such profound narcissism, but here is the full quote: "We're going to be wearing a bullseye. But that's what you play for. We enjoy the bullseye. Plus, there's going to be times when we lose 2-3 games in a row, and it seems like the world has crashed down. You all are going to make it seem like the World Trade is coming down again, but it's not going to be nothing but a couple basketball games." Fanhouse originally mis-reported Wade's quote, but if he wasn't wearing a bulls-eye before, he is now."
So idiotic.
Does he mean the media and fans will believe it's a conspiracy?
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/bush_administration/22_believe_bush_knew_about_9_11_attacks_in_advance (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/bush_administration/22_believe_bush_knew_about_9_11_attacks_in_advance)
dude's just referencing the enormous media coverage over the WTC. He's not belittling the loss of life or anything.
Hell people exploit the WTC incident for their political agendas.
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on July 18, 2010, 08:29:49 PM
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"Dwyane Wade said in a recent interview, "If we [the Miami Heat] lose a couple in a row this season ... You all are going to make it seem like the World Trade Center is coming down again."
There is no proper context for a remark of such profound narcissism, but here is the full quote: "We're going to be wearing a bullseye. But that's what you play for. We enjoy the bullseye. Plus, there's going to be times when we lose 2-3 games in a row, and it seems like the world has crashed down. You all are going to make it seem like the World Trade is coming down again, but it's not going to be nothing but a couple basketball games." Fanhouse originally mis-reported Wade's quote, but if he wasn't wearing a bulls-eye before, he is now."
So idiotic.
Too soon? I guess he'll just have to stick to Oklahoma City/McVeigh references.
Horrible analogy and I'm sure he'd be the first to tell you that. Everyone make mistakes.
Quote from: Stone Cold on July 18, 2010, 08:36:46 PM
dude's just referencing the enormous media coverage over the WTC. He's not belittling the loss of life or anything.
Hell people exploit the WTC incident for their political agendas.
Of course, but it's still quite pathetic that he could even mention basketball and the WTC together. Like NickelDimer said, horrible analogy.
I'm sure Wade would probably say "stop being such a sensitive p___y."
You are allowed to reference the WTC and say things like "guy came at me like I was a trade center hijacker".
Despite people telling you so, you don't need to be so easily offended. Especially when he is just using it to reference the media coverage.
Quote from: NickelDimer on July 18, 2010, 08:40:31 PM
Horrible analogy and I'm sure he'd be the first to tell you that. Everyone make mistakes.
I have no problem with this. He's simply saying that losing a couple basketball games isn't a big deal...9/11 was a big deal. All he's asking for is a little perspective on things. If they lose a couple games and he compares his feelings to being similar to the way he felt ater 9/11, then you'd have a point.
just thought it was interesting, don't jump all over me lol
Quote from: Stone Cold on July 18, 2010, 08:52:04 PM
I'm sure Wade would probably say "stop being such a sensitive p___y."
You are allowed to reference the WTC and say things like "guy came at me like I was a trade center hijacker".
Despite people telling you so, you don't need to be so easily offended. Especially when he is just using it to reference the media coverage.
+1, referencing WTC is not the same as equating something with it. Why don't you actually think about his point before you act all offended. If anything he is criticizing the media and its hysteria over things of little real importance (see Gibson and Lohan), while much more important things happen everyday that no one takes a second glance at.
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on July 18, 2010, 09:00:31 PM
I'm giving him a pass anyway because is a Marquette superstar
I'm going to give him a pass because my skin's a little thicker than tracy gold's waistline.
Quote from: KCMarq09 on July 18, 2010, 09:03:23 PM
+1, referencing WTC is not the same as equating something with it. Why don't you actually think about his point before you act all offended. If anything he is criticizing the media and its hysteria over things of little real importance (see Gibson and Lohan), while much more important things happen everyday that no one takes a second glance at.
I'm not "all offended". I simply posted the news article that was pointing to the analogy, and I find it hard that you can argue there is *nothing* wrong with it. It's still a stupid thing to say regardless of the context.
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on July 18, 2010, 09:14:51 PM
I'm not "all offended". I simply posted the news article that was pointing to the analogy, and I find it hard that you can argue there is *nothing* wrong with it. It's still a stupid thing to say regardless of the context.
I wasn't technically meaning "you". Sorry. I just get sick when someone does a comparison and the media and commentators make a big deal about it as though they are equating the two things.
And there is absolutely nothing wrong with Wade's comparison, it is simply that...a comparison (and not even about the comparison to the event but the media reaction to it.) Politicians have promoted their own agenda using 9/11, musicians have made money and writers have capitalized on the fear it created. Oh and by the way, the comparison is correct - if the Heat start off the year, say, the same way the Cavs did last year ESPN will act like its Armageddon.
Come on. The point he is making is that in the grand scheme of things sports doesn't mean anything. Something like September 11th does.
Wade doesn't need a pass because he didn't say anything wrong.
Quote from: avid1010 on July 18, 2010, 08:55:57 PM
I have no problem with this. He's simply saying that losing a couple basketball games isn't a big deal...9/11 was a big deal. All he's asking for is a little perspective on things. If they lose a couple games and he compares his feelings to being similar to the way he felt ater 9/11, then you'd have a point.
It's a bad analogy because it's too sensitive a subject to reference in this context. That being said, it's not a big deal.
I think it was a poor choice, but not a big deal. Ideally he would have used a different analagy.
Wade has really turned into the attack dog of the Heat though and this is one of the comments. He responded to Noah's "It's going to be like Hollywood down there" comment, he responded to Dan Gilbert. He also called the Bulls disloyal when the Bulls were big contenders for James and Bosh. He probably has the most guts out of the three down there, so he probably has to be the one to take on the tough guy role.
Might be good leadership when trying to lead guys like James and Bosh. He is the big brother looking out for everyone picking on the little brothers.
No problem with me. Freedom of speech.
He'll have to live with whatever junk people throw at him. Whatever.
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on July 18, 2010, 08:29:49 PM
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"Dwyane Wade said in a recent interview, "If we [the Miami Heat] lose a couple in a row this season ... You all are going to make it seem like the World Trade Center is coming down again."
There is no proper context for a remark of such profound narcissism, but here is the full quote: "We're going to be wearing a bullseye. But that's what you play for. We enjoy the bullseye. Plus, there's going to be times when we lose 2-3 games in a row, and it seems like the world has crashed down. You all are going to make it seem like the World Trade is coming down again, but it's not going to be nothing but a couple basketball games." Fanhouse originally mis-reported Wade's quote, but if he wasn't wearing a bulls-eye before, he is now."
So idiotic.
Wade is worse than Hitler.
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on July 18, 2010, 09:00:31 PM
just thought it was interesting, don't jump all over me lol
Let's see. You called Wade narcissistic and the remark idiotic. Now you don't want anyone to jump all over you. Seems to me when you give it out you ought to man up and take it too. You're entitled to your opinion but so is Wade. I wasn't the least bit offended by the reference as you were. I was however put off by what you seemed to feel was interesting. I'd have thought there were many more pressing issues to discuss.
Wades point is spot on. That said, the correct point can be said incorrectly. It was in poor taste even if by mentioning the Trade Centers, he was doing the opposite of belittling their importance.
I do not believe that Wade graduated, so it is highly likely he did not take his mandatory course of Political Correctness 101.
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on July 18, 2010, 08:29:49 PM
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"You all are going to make it seem like the World Trade is coming down again, but it's not going to be nothing but a couple basketball games."
If that is the comment, I don't see the problem. He is saying specifically that it's just basketball, and it's not something serious like the WTC. Why would anybody be offended by that?
I'm not offended, but if you don't think this a PR screw-up you are lying to yourself. Especially considering the emotions being brought up with the mosque battle. There was absolutely no reason to bring it up in an interview.
What's wrong with you guys? This is just an off the cuff comment and you're all making it seem like the World Trade Center had jumbo-jets full of passengers crashed into them at full speed killing thousands. Sheesh, get a grip!
People who are so easily offended probably do not watch the NBA. I mean, those tattoos alone would scare them off.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on July 19, 2010, 07:57:32 AM
People who are so easily offended probably do not watch the NBA. I mean, those tattoos alone would scare them off.
Some folks would find a tattoo of red lips on a man's neck romantic.
(http://tattooinkstyles.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/kenyon-martin-tattoo.jpg)
Wade has to learn that he is not a bad guy. This type of thread does not happen 6 months ago. No one is going to give Wade the benefit on anything anymore. The press kept his divorce pretty private. Now that he has formed the big 3, the press would not have ignored that.
It doesn't matter whether or not something like WTC personally offends you. It might offend some people, and whether Wade likes it or not, people don't like this Heat team. People will jump on this and anything that could be perceived as negative about these guys.
It is not really fair because the WTC comment is not bad necessarily and these guys had every right to sign with the Heat, its just the reality of the way people feel about the Heat. It's part of the Bulls-eye and the exact overhyping that he was specifically talking about in the quote.
Apparently, some idiot reporter miss quoted Wade on this in the original story, causing even more controversy. At the Sporting Blog, Wade's comments were initially published differently as "If we lose a couple in a row this season, it will be like the World Trade (Center) is coming down again."
HuffPost's headline is "Dwyane Wade Unfairly Blamed For Controversial 9/11 Comments." Also nice to see that most of the commentators have good enough reading comprehension to understand what he meant.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/19/dwyane-wade-world-trade-c_n_650755.html
With the probally hundreds of interviews these guys give a week, mistakes like this are almost inevitable. If this is the worst thing he says during his career, its a big nothing.
Wade's apology: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5392510
Quote from: HoopsMalone on July 19, 2010, 01:44:26 PM
Wade's apology: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5392510
The worst part is, he's not the one that should be apologizing.
Quote from: LancesOtherNut on July 19, 2010, 01:57:25 PM
The worst part is, he's not the one that should be apologizing.
I took it as more a clarification. I liked the tone.
I don't think his actual comment was offensive in the least, but mentioning the World Trade Center when discussing basketball is never a good idea. We live in a PC country with a lot of "unregulated publications" out there. Whether you find the comment offensive or not, it's best for people in the public eye to avoid making references to specific touchy subjects (9/11, Hitler, slavery, etc) in any form because someone will almost always find a way to take it out of context.
This is probably a good lesson for Wade. Not a bad comment, taken out of context, no real harm. He has turned from a fan favorite to the leader of the team people want to lose. He cannot say anything borderline like this anymore.
Quote from: HoopsMalone on July 19, 2010, 02:18:49 PM
This is probably a good lesson for Wade. Not a bad comment, taken out of context, no real harm. He has turned from a fan favorite to the leader of the team people want to lose. He cannot say anything borderline like this anymore.
Well put. D-Wade could become the Derek Jeter of the NBA. There will be a lot of fans who like and respect him as a player even if they cheer against his team.
Pop Quiz: Name something even remotely interesting that Derek Jeter has ever said in an interview.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on July 19, 2010, 02:23:45 PM
Pop Quiz: Name something even remotely interesting that Derek Jeter has ever said in an interview.
"I am dating Minka Kelly."
Why not have the MU J school offer an internship, the "D Wade interview screener/spinmeister", complete w/ temporary posse membership...it beats most summer job opportunities
Quote from: KCMarq09 on July 19, 2010, 08:38:19 AM
Apparently, some idiot reporter miss quoted Wade on this in the original story, causing even more controversy. At the Sporting Blog, Wade's comments were initially published differently as "If we lose a couple in a row this season, it will be like the World Trade (Center) is coming down again."
HuffPost's headline is "Dwyane Wade Unfairly Blamed For Controversial 9/11 Comments." Also nice to see that most of the commentators have good enough reading comprehension to understand what he meant.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/19/dwyane-wade-world-trade-c_n_650755.html
That's the quote that I saw attributed originally. I still think it was a bad metaphor, but at least he was making a poor attempt at media criticism instead of just poor metaphors.
Families Of 9/11 Victims: Heat Losing 3 In A Row Would Be Much Worse Than World Trade Center Attacks
NEW YORK—Following Dwyane Wade's controversial remarks likening the fall of the World Trade Center towers to his team having a losing streak, several families of 9/11 victims announced their support for Wade, saying that three consecutive regular-season losses by the Heat would in fact be at least as tragic as the largest terrorist attack on American soil. "I can say without fear of contradiction that even a single loss by this very talented Miami team would make the Oklahoma City bombing pale in comparison," Staten Island's Kent Norris told reporters Wednesday, noting that he lost his daughter and son-in-law on 9/11. "Three losses in a row from a team that has LeBron, Bosh, and Wade? America would never truly recover from that." Norris also received support from the Jewish Anti-Defamation League after claiming that Miami failing to win at least five titles during LeBron's tenure would be "worse than 10 holocausts."
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