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Title: Anyone have info on Diener and Novak?
Post by: drewm88 on July 14, 2010, 10:15:34 AM
Just curious if anyone knows if they're getting some interest from teams.
Title: Re: Anyone have info on Diener and Novak?
Post by: Mobot on July 14, 2010, 10:55:01 AM
I have heard that the Bucks have some interest in Diener, though I am not sure how serious they are.
Title: Re: Anyone have info on Diener and Novak?
Post by: Hards Alumni on July 14, 2010, 10:56:31 AM
Quote from: Eford4President2012 on July 14, 2010, 10:55:01 AM
I have heard that the Bucks have some interest in Diener, though I am not sure how serious they are.

With Luke Ridnour signed in Minnesota, the Bucks no longer have a backup PG.

Could use TD, or Dom who is on the summer league team.
Title: Re: Anyone have info on Diener and Novak?
Post by: MerrittsMustache on July 14, 2010, 11:06:43 AM
Both guys should come relatively cheap so I'd expect them to find new homes eventually. Novak would look good coming off the bench for Miami.
Title: Re: Anyone have info on Diener and Novak?
Post by: HoopsMalone on July 14, 2010, 11:14:50 AM
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on July 14, 2010, 11:06:43 AM
Both guys should come relatively cheap so I'd expect them to find new homes eventually. Novak would look good coming off the bench for Miami.


Seeng Novak on a playoff run could win back many MU fans for the Heat.
Title: Re: Anyone have info on Diener and Novak?
Post by: mikem91288 on July 14, 2010, 11:40:48 AM
Could DWade the GM, swing for them both to sign with Miami? I know I'm dreaming, but they are short on guys and Novak and Diener will bust their tails and do it on the cheap!
Title: Re: Anyone have info on Diener and Novak?
Post by: avid1010 on July 14, 2010, 12:05:46 PM
Quote from: HoopsMalone on July 14, 2010, 11:14:50 AM
Seeng Novak on a playoff run could win back many MU fans for the Heat.

Did MU fans ditch Wade when I wasn't looking?   If so, I am convinced that the Heat will make a push to win back the MU base.
Title: Re: Anyone have info on Diener and Novak?
Post by: HoopsMalone on July 14, 2010, 12:08:59 PM
Quote from: avid1010 on July 14, 2010, 12:05:46 PM
Did MU fans ditch Wade when I wasn't looking?   If so, I am convinced that the Heat will make a push to win back the MU base.

MU fans definitely ditched the Heat based on comments on this board.  Not Wade, but definitely the Heat. 
Title: Re: Anyone have info on Diener and Novak?
Post by: strobl2 on July 14, 2010, 02:38:53 PM
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on July 14, 2010, 11:06:43 AM
Both guys should come relatively cheap so I'd expect them to find new homes eventually. Novak would look good coming off the bench for Miami.


I was thinking that Miami would be a perfect place for Novak to play, they wouldn't have to pay him that much and all he would have to do is spot up and shoot threes.
Title: Re: Anyone have info on Diener and Novak?
Post by: avid1010 on July 14, 2010, 04:48:54 PM
Quote from: strobl2 on July 14, 2010, 02:38:53 PM
I was thinking that Miami would be a perfect place for Novak to play, they wouldn't have to pay him that much and all he would have to do is spot up and shoot threes.

I think the one thing every player, especially role player, on the Heat needs to do/be able to do is play solid defense.  With their size/athleticism I'm not sure they're a good fit.  Their shooting ability certainly would be an asset, and they play smart (wouldn't take bad shots or let their egos get in the way), but defensive ability would be an issue.  If you read Wade's comments, there certainly isn't a lack of interest from players around the league...he made it sound like they're being very selective in their process as their funds are limited.
Title: Re: Anyone have info on Diener and Novak?
Post by: CAINMUTINY on July 14, 2010, 06:17:21 PM
Novak has been in talks with Chicago and New York, but that is all I have heard.
Title: Re: Anyone have info on Diener and Novak?
Post by: TallTitan34 on July 14, 2010, 08:16:30 PM
Quote from: CAINMUTINY on July 14, 2010, 06:17:21 PM
Novak has been in talks with Chicago and New York, but that is all I have heard.

I'd love Novak on the Bulls but is he still an option with the addition of sharpshooter Korver?
Title: Re: Anyone have info on Diener and Novak?
Post by: CAINMUTINY on July 14, 2010, 10:42:15 PM
I really couldn't say to be honest, but Novak and Korver play different positions so I wouldn;t rule it out.  As a knicks fan (possibly the last one!) I would love to see him play there and under ideal circumstances Milwaukee would be best as his wife is preganant and I'd imagine they'd like to be close to family.
Title: Re: Anyone have info on Diener and Novak?
Post by: MUSF on July 15, 2010, 12:42:42 AM
Quote from: HoopsMalone on July 14, 2010, 12:08:59 PM
MU fans MU Cavs and Bulls fans definitely ditched the Heat based on comments on this board.  Not Wade, but definitely the Heat. 

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Title: Re: Anyone have info on Diener and Novak?
Post by: The Lens on July 15, 2010, 12:12:28 PM
Quote from: MUSF on July 15, 2010, 12:42:42 AM

MU fans  MU Cavs and Bulls fans definitely ditched the Heat based on comments on this board.  Not Wade, but definitely the Heat

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Speak for yourself, this MU fan (& Bucks fan) will never cheer for Heat again. I don't care if Wade is on the team.
Title: Re: Anyone have info on Diener and Novak?
Post by: APieperFan3 on July 15, 2010, 12:19:47 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on July 14, 2010, 08:16:30 PM
I'd love Novak on the Bulls but is he still an option with the addition of sharpshooter Korver?

Korver and Reddick...right?? I think it's already going to be tough to play Korver and Reddick at the same time...Doesn't look like there would be minutes for Novak unless there was an injury, etc.

I would LOVE to see Novak go to the Heat and have 9, 12 or 15 points per night respectively. (haha)
Title: Re: Anyone have info on Diener and Novak?
Post by: TallTitan34 on July 15, 2010, 12:55:47 PM
Quote from: APieperFan3 on July 15, 2010, 12:19:47 PM
Korver and Reddick...right?? I think it's already going to be tough to play Korver and Reddick at the same time...Doesn't look like there would be minutes for Novak unless there was an injury, etc.

I would LOVE to see Novak go to the Heat and have 9, 12 or 15 points per night respectively. (haha)

It's possible Orlando matches the Bulls offer and keeps Reddick.  They will know on Tuesday.

EDIT: I mean't Friday.
Title: Re: Anyone have info on Diener and Novak?
Post by: DJO's Pump Fake on July 15, 2010, 12:57:57 PM
QuoteSpeak for yourself, this MU fan (& Bucks fan) will never cheer for Heat again. I don't care if Wade is on the team.

Just curious as to why?
Title: Re: Anyone have info on Diener and Novak?
Post by: esotericmindguy on July 15, 2010, 02:05:59 PM
Quote from: DJO's Pump Fake on July 15, 2010, 12:57:57 PM
Just curious as to why?

Yeah really, what is the big deal....say what you want about HOW Lebron left Cleveland but I think its refreshing that players are willing to take less money to win, both Bosh and Lebron left probably 5 million on the table per year. Jordan had pippen and grant, kobe has pau, odom, bynum, artest, etc. I for one just became more of a Heat fan.
Title: Re: Anyone have info on Diener and Novak?
Post by: BrewCity83 on July 15, 2010, 02:39:39 PM
I'm a Bucks fan, but the Wade-led Heat is still my #2 team.  I'm with esoeroticmind on this one.
Title: Re: Anyone have info on Diener and Novak?
Post by: brewcity77 on July 15, 2010, 02:55:17 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on July 15, 2010, 12:55:47 PM
It's possible Orlando matches the Bulls offer and keeps Reddick.  They will know on Tuesday.

I'm feeling confident Orlando will match the offer. But at the same time, they'll wait so that the Bulls' options are reduced. Wes Matthews has signed, Anthony Morrow has signed, the good young 2-guards are disappearing from the market. By the time the Bulls discover the money they planned to give Reddick can go somewhere else, the guys they'll have wanted could well be off the table.
Title: Re: Anyone have info on Diener and Novak?
Post by: HoopsMalone on July 15, 2010, 03:23:46 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 15, 2010, 02:55:17 PM
I'm feeling confident Orlando will match the offer. But at the same time, they'll wait so that the Bulls' options are reduced. Wes Matthews has signed, Anthony Morrow has signed, the good young 2-guards are disappearing from the market. By the time the Bulls discover the money they planned to give Reddick can go somewhere else, the guys they'll have wanted could well be off the table.

Could be for the best from Chi's perspective.  Reddick is not the long term answer.  I'd like to see a trade pulled off for Iguodala (Evan Turner is in Philly now), Monta Ellis (he was in trade rumors to Knicks), or Danny Granger (it would be hard to get him from Larry Bird).  Those three are under the radar, but would be nice scoring options.  No need to panic this year. 

Bulls will likely get a top 3 seed by winning the Central, but they don't need to get tied up in a long term deal overpaying Reddick to try to win it this year.  Keep some flexibity and give the team a better shot.  I would rather have Diener or Novak at the minimum and try to make another move later rather than having Reddick at a high price. 
Title: Re: Anyone have info on Diener and Novak?
Post by: MUBurrow on July 15, 2010, 03:49:54 PM
Monta Ellis? He could totally disrupt that team.  On offense, the ball doesn't get past him.
Title: Re: Anyone have info on Diener and Novak?
Post by: HoopsMalone on July 15, 2010, 04:11:53 PM
Quote from: MUBurrow on July 15, 2010, 03:49:54 PM
Monta Ellis? He could totally disrupt that team.  On offense, the ball doesn't get past him.

Ellis is a risk, but he is a young scorer with upside. 
Title: Re: Anyone have info on Diener and Novak?
Post by: MU B2002 on July 15, 2010, 04:32:08 PM
Quote from: HoopsMalone on July 15, 2010, 04:11:53 PM
Ellis is a risk, but he is a young scorer with upside. 

Just keep him off the mopeds.
Title: Re: Anyone have info on Diener and Novak?
Post by: brewcity77 on July 16, 2010, 08:53:11 AM
Quote from: HoopsMalone on July 15, 2010, 03:23:46 PM
Could be for the best from Chi's perspective.  Reddick is not the long term answer.  I'd like to see a trade pulled off for Iguodala (Evan Turner is in Philly now), Monta Ellis (he was in trade rumors to Knicks), or Danny Granger (it would be hard to get him from Larry Bird).  Those three are under the radar, but would be nice scoring options.  No need to panic this year. 

Bulls will likely get a top 3 seed by winning the Central, but they don't need to get tied up in a long term deal overpaying Reddick to try to win it this year.  Keep some flexibity and give the team a better shot.  I would rather have Diener or Novak at the minimum and try to make another move later rather than having Reddick at a high price. 

I agree that I don't really want Reddick, if they were going to tie up the money, I'd have rather seen it go to Wes or Morrow. But I think that expecting the Bulls to get a top 3 seed is rather over-optimistic at this point. While Rose and Noah should be even better, and Boozer will be a boost, I think the Bucks right now are the team to beat in the Central. A healthy Bogut, an improved Brandon Jennings, and the savvy addition of Drew Gooden put them at the top of the heap in my mind. Been a Bulls fan all my life, but overlooking Milwaukee is a mistake in my eyes. As long as Michael Redd spends most of the season in street clothes, Milwaukee will be very tough. Of course, if Redd gets healthy, they become a much more beatable team.
Title: Re: Anyone have info on Diener and Novak?
Post by: TallTitan34 on July 16, 2010, 08:55:04 AM
Orlando matched the Bulls offer to Reddick. He will remain with the Magic.
Title: Re: Anyone have info on Diener and Novak?
Post by: Avenue Commons on July 18, 2010, 08:22:20 PM
The "lower tier" free agents have to wait and see where the bigger names will go. Once this gets shaken out guys like TD and Novak will see where they can go.
Title: Re: Anyone have info on Diener and Novak?
Post by: 77ncaachamps on July 18, 2010, 10:16:23 PM
Quote from: Avenue Commons on July 18, 2010, 08:22:20 PM
The "lower tier" free agents have to wait and see where the bigger names will go. Once this gets shaken out guys like TD and Novak will see where they can go.

With his new kid, I can't see why the Bucks don't extend Novak an offer.
Title: Re: Anyone have info on Diener and Novak?
Post by: TallTitan34 on July 18, 2010, 11:53:06 PM
There was some talk on 670 the score last night in Chicago about Diener or Novak being cheap, low risk options for the Bulls as they fill out their roster. 
Title: Re: Anyone have info on Diener and Novak?
Post by: Hards Alumni on July 19, 2010, 08:37:29 AM
The Bucks are winning the Central, not the Bulls.
Title: Re: Anyone have info on Diener and Novak?
Post by: HoopsMalone on July 19, 2010, 11:40:08 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on July 18, 2010, 11:53:06 PM
There was some talk on 670 the score last night in Chicago about Diener or Novak being cheap, low risk options for the Bulls as they fill out their roster. 

Bulls did a sign and trade for CJ Watson as a backup pg.  Watson gave about 10ppg out in Golden State playing behind Monta Ellis and Step Curry.  He looks quick and will be a nice backup for Rose.  Teams will always have to cover a quick PG this year.  The Bulls' team is really shaping out to be a nice and balanced roster.  The players look to complement each other nicely.  I hope they can put it together.

That being said, Diener's chancing of making the Bulls just became less likely.  The Bulls will probably look to add a big man and another wing.  Novak might be an ok option to go with what they have.  I think the Bulls took a silver medal on the only player from Marquette they were really looking at unfortunately.
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