http://www.startribune.com/sports/gophers/94034799.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUUs (http://www.startribune.com/sports/gophers/94034799.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUUs)
In a nutshell, "In another potentially devastating blow to the Gophers basketball program, forward Trevor Mbakwe is expected to seek a release from his scholarship this week and consider a transfer to another school, according to persons with knowledge of the situation."
What a mess
Crean really knew how to pick 'em.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 18, 2010, 06:26:46 AM
Crean really knew how to pick 'em.
That's baiting. That's what that is. Was it necessary?
he'd have to give up a year of basketball, no?
Either Mbakwe or someone in his possee has got a screw loose.
Such a jacked up high school and college career.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 18, 2010, 06:26:46 AM
Crean really knew how to pick 'em.
Because TC is the only coach that ever recruited an idiot?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 18, 2010, 06:26:46 AM
Crean really knew how to pick 'em.
And Buzz recruited him to stay after Crean left.
Talent always wins out, even with the crazies. Lots of coaches get burned by that.
This thread is lacking in class.
Crean and Buzz need to have all their recruits vetted by hards alumni because he and he alone can project exactly where they will be development wise on a year by year basis. Just ask him...after the fact.
Quote from: Canadian Dimes on May 18, 2010, 09:40:27 AM
Crean and Buzz need to have all their recruits vetted by hards alumni because he and he alone can project exactly where they will be development wise on a year by year basis. Just ask him...after the fact.
bahaha
Just admit you were wrong!
I can see that it is eating you up inside since you've transferred this to a different thread.
I will stand by my assessmant that Mboa has tremendous athleticism and if he was willing to dedicated him self to working harder than he could have ever imagined and part of that included putting on 25 lbs that he could have developed into a special player. Obviously, by all accounts he was not willing to put in the work.
I am dissapointed for Yous. So many times kids dont realize the opportunity they have right in front of them and feel the easiest thing to do is quit. That is disappointing.
But what actually annoys me is people like yourself who sit back in the shadows never putting anythign forth and then attacking others who do in an effort to boost your own self. People like you are classic under acheivers and cowards. Kind of like Mbao you take the easy route. Simple middle of the roader. Hard to respect that.
I think it's unfortunate that rather than admit that Buzz may have overreached on Mbao, people here who know very little (none?) about the facts are perfectly willing to throw a kid under the bus. The explanation that "he didn't work hard enough" is an indictment of a kid's character when we don't really know if it's true. Perhaps he just wasn't skilled enough. There are many kids out there who simply aren't good enough to play high major D-I basketball. Many of them are freakishly good athletes. The fact that they aren't good enough basketball players to play in the Big East does not mean that they didn't work hard. Mbao was a reach. It didn't work out. I don't have enough information to decide whether that was Mbao's fault or Buzz's. Absent that information, I'm not willing to criticize his work ethic or blame him.
Quote from: Canadian Dimes on May 18, 2010, 09:54:46 AM
I will stand by my assessmant that Mboa has tremendous athleticism and if he was willing to dedicated him self to working harder than he could have ever imagined and part of that included putting on 25 lbs that he could have developed into a special player. Obviously, by all accounts he was not willing to put in the work.
I am dissapointed for Yous. So many times kids dont realize the opportunity they have right in front of them and feel the easiest thing to do is quit. That is disappointing.
But what actually annoys me is people like yourself who sit back in the shadows never putting anythign forth and then attacking others who do in an effort to boost your own self. People like you are classic under acheivers and cowards. Kind of like Mbao you take the easy route. Simple middle of the roader. Hard to respect that.
God, I love you. You criticize me for "sitting back in the shadows" yet I have over 1200+ posts... I am a classic underachiever based on what? You know me, how, exactly?
If you want to put your projections out there on the internet for everyone to see, expect that you will catch some hell for being wrong.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on May 18, 2010, 10:11:31 AM
I think it's unfortunate that rather than admit that Buzz may have overreached on Mbao, people here who know very little (none?) about the facts are perfectly willing to throw a kid under the bus. The explanation that "he didn't work hard enough" is an indictment of a kid's character when we don't really know if it's true. Perhaps he just wasn't skilled enough. There are many kids out there who simply aren't good enough to play high major D-I basketball. Many of them are freakishly good athletes. The fact that they aren't good enough basketball players to play in the Big East does not mean that they didn't work hard. Mbao was a reach. It didn't work out. I don't have enough information to decide whether that was Mbao's fault or Buzz's. Absent that information, I'm not willing to criticize his work ethic or blame him.
You may be absolutely correct. However, from everything i have heard directly from buzz or have read or heard that Buzz would not do that. If buzz did not feel he could play at the BE level he would never have recruited the guy. Much like he indicated in his recent interview, if akid is busting his hump and contributing nothing then the kid has nothing to worry about , becuase if he keeps it up in some time , maybe not until the last game of his Senior year ala Mike Kinsella he will earn his scholarship. As long as he maintains that 1% better attitude every day then Buzz is happy. When that does not happen and the kid feels overwhelmed by the mountain in front of him and decidess to quit giving 100% to get 1% better every day or decides it is easier to leave and go somewhere else then he is gone.
Now I agree none of us know what exactly happened but the fact that Buzz has said these very things like a broken record for 2+ years would seem to indicate that is what happened. I trust Buzz on this. Programs dont let 7'2" good athletes go after their freshman seasons unless the kid is not commited to the process
Whoa...hey. This thread is about Mbakwe right? I think he might be going for a world record of number of schools attended on basketball scholarship without ever actually playing a full season of basketball.
So...if he did transfer, he'd only have 1 year of elegibility, or 2? I thought the NCAA gave you 5 years to play 4 (including transfer (sit out) years), but I guess I'm unclear on whether that clock kept running during the juco year in-between.
Regardless, a sad story.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on May 18, 2010, 10:23:21 AM
God, I love you. You criticize me for "sitting back in the shadows" yet I have over 1200+ posts... I am a classic underachiever based on what? You know me, how, exactly?
Because everyone knows that overachievers make wild predictions all the time and change their name constantly.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on May 18, 2010, 10:55:02 AM
Because everyone knows that overachievers make wild predictions all the time and change their name constantly.
They also dnt care aboutspellng or grammer.
Never promise crazy a scholarship.
- George Sr.
Mbakwe has no future as a D-1 player. What a waste of a good player. He was great in high school and I thought he would have a good career at MU.
Quote from: Canadian Dimes on May 18, 2010, 10:26:15 AM
You may be absolutely correct. However, from everything i have heard directly from buzz or have read or heard that Buzz would not do that. If buzz did not feel he could play at the BE level he would never have recruited the guy. Much like he indicated in his recent interview, if akid is busting his hump and contributing nothing then the kid has nothing to worry about , becuase if he keeps it up in some time , maybe not until the last game of his Senior year ala Mike Kinsella he will earn his scholarship. As long as he maintains that 1% better attitude every day then Buzz is happy. When that does not happen and the kid feels overwhelmed by the mountain in front of him and decidess to quit giving 100% to get 1% better every day or decides it is easier to leave and go somewhere else then he is gone.
Now I agree none of us know what exactly happened but the fact that Buzz has said these very things like a broken record for 2+ years would seem to indicate that is what happened. I trust Buzz on this. Programs dont let 7'2" good athletes go after their freshman seasons unless the kid is not commited to the process
Even though this not about TM...This post is spot on how I feel about the YM situation. +1
Quote from: mosarsour on May 18, 2010, 04:21:46 PM
Even though this not about TM...This post is spot on how I feel about the YM situation. +1
+2. Spot on.
Quote from: Canadian Dimes on May 18, 2010, 10:26:15 AM
You may be absolutely correct. However, from everything i have heard directly from buzz or have read or heard that Buzz would not do that. If buzz did not feel he could play at the BE level he would never have recruited the guy. Much like he indicated in his recent interview, if akid is busting his hump and contributing nothing then the kid has nothing to worry about , becuase if he keeps it up in some time , maybe not until the last game of his Senior year ala Mike Kinsella he will earn his scholarship. As long as he maintains that 1% better attitude every day then Buzz is happy. When that does not happen and the kid feels overwhelmed by the mountain in front of him and decidess to quit giving 100% to get 1% better every day or decides it is easier to leave and go somewhere else then he is gone.
Now I agree none of us know what exactly happened but the fact that Buzz has said these very things like a broken record for 2+ years would seem to indicate that is what happened. I trust Buzz on this. Programs dont let 7'2" good athletes go after their freshman seasons unless the kid is not commited to the process
+1
Quote from: mupanther on May 18, 2010, 03:43:16 PM
Mbakwe has no future as a D-1 player. What a waste of a good player. He was great in high school and I thought he would have a good career at MU.
According to the Minnesota papers Memphis and N.C. State are interested, so Trevor may yet have a future.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 18, 2010, 06:26:46 AM
Crean really knew how to pick 'em.
And Buzz was hoping he wouldn't transfer....just sayin. (I'm sure this will be implied by some as an attack) ::)
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 18, 2010, 07:39:10 PM
And Buzz was hoping he wouldn't transfer....just sayin. (I'm sure this will be implied by some as an attack) ::)
and you know what Buzz is hoping how? Oh, I forgot, you don't...and neither do any of the other jagnuts that are going to come on here and pretend they do.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 18, 2010, 07:39:10 PM
And Buzz was hoping he wouldn't transfer....just sayin. (I'm sure this will be implied by some as an attack) ::)
(no it won't) Another failed mind reading attempt - it's happening awfully frequently these days.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on May 18, 2010, 07:48:56 PM
and you know what Buzz is hoping how? Oh, I forgot, you don't...and neither do any of the other jagnuts that are going to come on here and pretend they do.
Uhm, I read what he said in the newspaper and in the interviews he did about it. Um, that's how. Unless what he said was not true and just coach speak, which of course is always possible.
See Lenny, that's the difference, I actually READ what he said (or Marquette84 saying MU would make the NCAAs, all you have to do is read), I'm not going to divine intent like you do, or play psychologist.
He was disappointed and shocked by the news of him (Trevor) leaving. Didn't know how it would affect his team. Reading, try it sometime...way better than playing psychologist. Or listen to the interviews, that way you don't even have to read, you can just listen, much easier that way.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 19, 2010, 12:50:03 AM
Uhm, I read what he said in the newspaper and in the interviews he did about it. Um, that's how. Unless what he said was not true and just coach speak, which of course is always possible.
See Lenny, that's the difference, I actually READ what he said (or Marquette84 saying MU would make the NCAAs, all you have to do is read), I'm not going to divine intent like you do, or play psychologist.
He was disappointed and shocked by the news of him (Trevor) leaving. Didn't know how it would affect his team. Reading, try it sometime...way better than playing psychologist. Or listen to the interviews, that way you don't even have to read, you can just listen, much easier that way.
"Buzz was hoping he wouldn't transfer" doesn't equal "he was disappointed and shocked by the news of him (Trevor) leaving". The first statement implies advanced knowledge of the impending transfer while the second implies exactly the opposite.
Nice try.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on May 19, 2010, 05:22:22 AM
"Buzz was hoping he wouldn't transfer" doesn't equal "he was disappointed and shocked by the news of him (Trevor) leaving". The first statement implies advanced knowledge of the impending transfer while the second implies exactly the opposite.
Nice try.
Talk about grasping at the definition of the word. Chicos made a valid point, move along.
Quote from: marqptm on May 19, 2010, 06:01:29 AM
Talk about grasping at the definition of the word. Chicos made a valid point, move along.
Call it what you want, but I'm still not sure how making two contradictory statements proves a point.
Since I guess I don't get it, can you explain what Chico's point was?
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on May 19, 2010, 06:48:26 AMSince I guess I don't get it, can you explain what Chico's point was?
I can't speak for Chico's, but I think when someone says that he is disappointed that something happened, it is reasonable to infer that he hoped it would not happen. However, I'll grant that he may not have given it any thought whatsoever in advance. But considering the comments in context, I'm going to join the ranks of the mind readers and assume that after taking the job Buzz did consider the potential for transfers and assume that "disappointed" = "hoped it would not happen." Of course there is one other possibility -- Buzz wasn't really disappointed and he was just saying what coaches say.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 19, 2010, 12:50:03 AM
Uhm, I read what he said in the newspaper and in the interviews he did about it. Um, that's how. Unless what he said was not true and just coach speak, which of course is always possible.
See Lenny, that's the difference, I actually READ what he said (or Marquette84 saying MU would make the NCAAs, all you have to do is read), I'm not going to divine intent like you do, or play psychologist.
He was disappointed and shocked by the news of him (Trevor) leaving. Didn't know how it would affect his team. Reading, try it sometime...way better than playing psychologist. Or listen to the interviews, that way you don't even have to read, you can just listen, much easier that way.
You said: "(This will be seen as an attack by some)"
I said: "(no it won't). Another failed mind reading attempt"
Since you insist you read this, I guess you just need someone to explain it to you. You were "looking into your crystal ball" and whining that people would interpret your post as an attack on Buzz (a tact you employ frequently). I said that people wouldn't interpret it that way.
So far, I am right. The only thing people have questioned is your insistance that he was "disappointed and shocked" by the news. I have no horse in that particular race, but my guess is he was disappointed but probably not shocked. I'm sure if you have evidence to the fact that he was shocked you'll share it with the board.
Getting back on point, you read my straightforward and obvious post but for some reason couldn't comprehend it. 7300+ posts suggest you're a better talker than a listener. Maybe you should strive for a little more balance.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 19, 2010, 08:29:01 AM
Getting back on point, you read my straightforward and obvious post but for some reason couldn't comprehend it. 7300+ posts suggest you're a better talker than a listener. Maybe you should strive for a little more balance.
For what it's worth (precious little), I mis-read your post too. I understood that your parenthetical ("no it won't") referred to Chico's parenthetical, but I thought the rest of your post was referring to the remainder of Chico's post (the comments about Buzz). The second half of your post seemed very similar to the post immediately prior to yours by ATL MU Warrior - although it's clear now that was not your intent.
I'm not going to jump into the fray on post counts, listening, etc., but your post wasn't as straightforward and obvious as you seem to think.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on May 19, 2010, 05:22:22 AM
"Buzz was hoping he wouldn't transfer" doesn't equal "he was disappointed and shocked by the news of him (Trevor) leaving". The first statement implies advanced knowledge of the impending transfer while the second implies exactly the opposite.
Nice try.
Maybe you should go back and read all the articles. Indulge yourself. Here's a hint, articles about MU and Buzz are not solely the jurisdiction of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 19, 2010, 08:29:01 AM
You said: "(This will be seen as an attack by some)"
I said: "(no it won't). Another failed mind reading attempt"
I have never been Miss Cleo like you Lenny. You excel at it. Of course, by me beating you to the punch and stating that someone would likely read it as an attack, did that prevent the attack? You decide
Since you insist you read this, I guess you just need someone to explain it to you. You were "looking into your crystal ball" and whining that people would interpret your post as an attack on Buzz (a tact you employ frequently). I said that people wouldn't interpret it that way.
Based on countless examples of people attacking, it was a fair assumption.
So far, I am right. The only thing people have questioned is your insistance that he was "disappointed and shocked" by the news. I have no horse in that particular race, but my guess is he was disappointed but probably not shocked. I'm sure if you have evidence to the fact that he was shocked you'll share it with the board.
So you're saying Buzz is a liar and that he wasn't shocked despite his exact words saying "I was shocked by the news" according to one of many articles on the subject. Uhm, ok. You must be a Buzz hater, to be calling him a liar like that. http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/32596679.html
Getting back on point, you read my straightforward and obvious post but for some reason couldn't comprehend it. 7300+ posts suggest you're a better talker than a listener. Maybe you should strive for a little more balance.
Maybe you just don't have much to offer. Or maybe it's because I've been here since 2006 and you have been here since 2009, just a hunch.
I think its fair to say when a player who was counted on to play a major role leaves the day before classes start any coach would be shocked and disappointed by the news.
Why is this even a subject of debate?
Mbakwe is a talented kid who was a risky recruit for reasons that are well known.
It didn't work out and now he is Tubby's problem.
Must every thread become a Buzz/Crean pissing match? ::)
Quote from: MuMark on May 19, 2010, 01:32:52 PM
Must every thread become a Buzz/Crean pissing match?
Past experience suggests that the answer to this one is "Yes." I don't think you'd have been complaining about that when Crean was coach.
Oh...was that a rhetorical question?
If when Crean was coach every thread turned into a Crean/Deane pissing match I certainly would have complained.
For the record ....I am not a Crean basher.....I am just tired of a coach, who has been gone for over 2 years, still dominating so much of the discussion.
The posters who hate him can't stop tweaking the posters who defend him........you would think it would all have been said by now.......guess not. :-\
Quote from: MuMark on May 19, 2010, 01:53:57 PM
If when Crean was coach every thread turned into a Crean/Deane pissing match I certainly would have complained.
I should have used teal. My bad.
say, not to bring the thread back to the original topic..., but, since Mbakwe was already enrolled at MU, would he still sit a year if he transfers back?
Augieman,
I wouldn't want that db back again if he averaged a double-double.
Would he have to sit out a year?
Do you really think Buzz would take a guy back who quit the team 1 day before classes started and who is about to go on trial for sexual assault?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 19, 2010, 12:45:50 PM
Oh my freakin God!
I write "I have no particular horse in that race (whether or not Buzz was shocked and disappointed) but my GUESS is he was disappointed but probably not shocked. I'm sure that if you have evidence to the fact he was shocked you'll share it with the board". Translation for those who are reading comprehension challenged = I don't know or much care whether Buzz was shocked and disappointed with Mbakwe's departure. My guess would be disappointed but probably not shocked. I then acknowledge that should you have evidence to the fact that Buzz was shocked I'm sure you'll provide it. You present evidence to the fact that he was shocked. My GUESS was wrong. End of story.
In what freakin' universe can anyone respond to this "So you're saying Buzz is a liar" and "You must be a Buzz Hater, calling him a liar like that". HUH?
It's easy to see why so many of your posts are "misinterpreted" by so many posters. If you're unable to understand simple declarative sentences maybe I and others are being too tough on you.
Quote from: MuMark on May 19, 2010, 01:32:52 PM
I think its fair to say when a player who was counted on to play a major role leaves the day before classes start any coach would be shocked and disappointed by the news.
Why is this even a subject of debate?
Absolutely. Where it started was the implication that an undesirable was recruited into MU by a former coach. Of course the irony is that this same undesirable was someone that the new coach didn't want leaving.
KO, TC & BW, have all recruited some bad eggs, it's part of randomness of recruiting. Future coaches will do so also.
The reality of it is that if a kid can play, regardless of how bad an apple he is (see Hutch), coaches often find a way to keep them on the team. Not always, but often. Let's put it another way, someone with talent gets a lot more chances than some stiff. As much of a bad apple as TM was, Buzz was more than happy to have him on the roster and had some big plans for him for the season. For some reason, there are several folks that have trouble tying this altogether.
Another UMN transfer... http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/basketball/ncaa/05/19/minnesota.cobbs.ap/index.html?eref=si_latest
I apologize guys, I should have used teal on my post..., it was obviously tongue-in-cheek.
Bottom line is someone upstairs is looking out for MU. First, Mbakwe leaves on his own. Then Monterale Clark shows his true colors before Buzz has to waste a year on him, and hurt the program's reputation in the process. Buzz is definitely good, but he also is lucky which sometimes is just as important.
We've had our fair share of bad luck as well. I'd put number one on that list the McMorrow injury in Buzz's tenure (I might be missing some other event, but it really sounded like he could have been a heck of a player). Also, the injuries to Cadougan and Otule.
Quote from: cheebs09 on May 19, 2010, 08:45:34 PM
We've had our fair share of bad luck as well. I'd put number one on that list the McMorrow injury in Buzz's tenure (I might be missing some other event, but it really sounded like he could have been a heck of a player). Also, the injuries to Cadougan and Otule.
Don't forget the late season injuries to Diener, McNeal, and James that were right on time to mess up any chance of postseason success.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 19, 2010, 02:49:13 PM
Oh my freakin God!
My guess would be disappointed but probably not shocked. I then acknowledge that should you have evidence to the fact that Buzz was shocked I'm sure you'll provide it. You present evidence to the fact that he was shocked. My GUESS was wrong. End of story.
"Shocked" means that Buzz didn't expect Mbakwe to leave.
If Buzz expected Mbakwe to transfer, he
a) would not have wasted the AD budget on summer school for a player who was about to transfer; and
b) would have signed another player in April to fill the scholarship that was not going to be used by a player about to transfer.
c) would not have signed McMorrow, since McMorrow could not have filled in for the departing Mbakwe.
However, because Buzz allowed Mbakwe go to class in the summer, use MU facilities, and provided access to resources such as coaches, medical staff and tutors; and more importantly, did not even attempt to recruit a player that could replace him, I would conclude that the only logical answer is that Buzz was indeed shocked by Mbakwe's departure.
Either that, or his recruiting strategy was incredibly inept.
http://www.startribune.com/sports/gophers/blogs/99599104.html?elr=KArksi8cyaiUo8cyaiUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiUr
Gophers forward Trevor Mbakwe recently said his life was threatened following the assault of a woman who said he punched her multiple times last April near their Miami apartment complex.
Earlier this week, Mbakwe said people tied to the alleged victim sent him messages via Facebook shortly after the assault, which prompted a felony assault charge against the former St. Bernard's/Henry Sibley star. Mbakwe is scheduled to go to trial next month. He has maintained that he's innocent.
"Some of her people, they sent me some threatening messages on Facebook," Mbakwe said. "They roamed around the neighborhood searching for me. One message said that 'I'm a dead man walking.'"
A Sunday story in the Memphis Commercial Appeal published parts of the alleged victim's December 2009 deposition. The paper also printed her name. Mbakwe has repeatedly stated this summer that he may transfer to Memphis.
According to the story, the woman said a friend showed her pictures of the Miami Dade basketball team, which Mbakwe played for during the 2008-09 season, on her iPhone shortly after she was assaulted.
"Right when I saw him, I recognized him," [the woman], according to the Memphis newspaper.
The woman's friends searched for Mbakwe but never found him.
Mbakwe said he wasn't running from police after the assault but worried about his safety when he received the threats. According to the Commercial Appeal, the alleged victim told authorities that she was unaware of any threats made against Mbakwe.
As far as basketball goes, Mbakwe said he's still "50/50" on returning to the Gophers this fall. "[Memphis] is still high on my list," he said.
But a number of recent developments have certainly complicated a potential move to Memphis.
His trial has been moved to late August. While all parties say that the trial will go forward next month, I've been hearing the same promise for the last year. It's hard to believe that this trial will be completed before the start of the next season, based on all of the maneuvering that's happened so far.
He'll need an NCAA waiver to play next season if he decides to transfer. That process will take time, something another trial move will take away from him.
Mbakwe said he hopes to make a decision about his future in the coming weeks.
"[The new trial date] makes it difficult, but I'll probably be more clear about what I'm going to do in the next couple weeks," Mbakwe said.
Memphis self-reported a secondary violation last week after Tigers head coach Josh Pastner attended one of Mbakwe's recent Howard Pulley games during a Twin Cities recruiting trip. And Matthew Dunn, one of Mbakwe's coaches at Miami Dade, now works for Memphis as the Tigers' practice facility and equipment manager and is also a key witness in Mbakwe's trial.
But Mbakwe doesn't think his relationship with Dunn, the coach's connection to his criminal case and Memphis' interest in his services will affect his legal situation.
"He's been one of my witnesses from Day 1," Mbakwe said. "It wasn't nothing like .. he's recruiting me [to come to Memphis]. That's not the deal at all."
Man, what a loser. But he was a "4 year high school recruit" so it's all good.
Quote from: Stone Cold on July 30, 2010, 01:37:47 PM
Man, what a loser. But he was a "4 year high school recruit" so it's all good.
http://instantrimshot.com/index.php?sound=rimshot&play=true
Quote from: Stone Cold on July 30, 2010, 01:37:47 PM
Man, what a loser. But he was a "4 year high school recruit" so it's all good.
Precisely. I have no problem with Crean bringing in guys like this. They provide stability to the program because they are here for 4 years and don't have any issues. Buzz needs to figure this out. JUCOs are big time risks. They are bad students and bad people who clearly have problems in their lives.
Mbakwe>>>>>>>Butler
Mbakwe>>>>>>>DJO
The guy's a class act. 4 year high school player, never had to go the JUCO route or even the prep school route. Great player, great person.
LOL ::)
Tommy Crean, the master of illusion.
Was Trevor Tubbied?
One of the reasons why Memphis and Kentucky can rebuild so fast....their administrations let them take guys that are awaiting trial for sexual assault. I'm surprised neither school has offered Monterale Clark yet.
From what we've seen of Mbakwe athletically, he is nothing special. Why would Pastner even offer. Trevor would probably be about a 22 year old sophomore.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on July 30, 2010, 06:11:14 PM
From what we've seen of Mbakwe athletically, he is nothing special. Why would Pastner even offer. Trevor would probably be about a 22 year old sophomore.
Probably because by the time he's done he'll be a 7-year HS player...now that's stability!
Quote from: 4everwarriors on July 30, 2010, 06:11:14 PM
From what we've seen of Mbakwe athletically, he is nothing special. Why would Pastner even offer. Trevor would probably be about a 22 year old sophomore.
What have we seen from him athletically?
Quote from: MuMark on May 19, 2010, 01:32:52 PM
I think its fair to say when a player who was counted on to play a major role leaves the day before classes start any coach would be shocked and disappointed by the news.
Why is this even a subject of debate?
Because if Chico's said the sky was blue, Lenny would argue that it"s actually aqua.
Of course at that point Marquette 84 would give us a lengthy definition of both blue and aqua and a statistical analysis of how many times the two words were used interchangeably. Ners would then become outraged at the insinuation that Buzz would ever mistakenly define the sky as blue and demand that all attacks on Buzz's character cease immediately. This would prompt Canadian Dimes to pound incoherently on his key board.
I love MUScoop in the summer.
Quote from: MUSF on July 31, 2010, 01:44:49 AM
Because if Chico's said the sky was blue, Lenny would argue that it"s actually aqua.
Of course at that point Marquette 84 would give us a lengthy definition of both blue and aqua and a statistical analysis of how many times the two words were used interchangeably. Ners would then become outraged at the insinuation that Buzz would ever mistakenly define the sky as blue and demand that all attacks on Buzz's character cease immediately. This would prompt Canadian Dimes to pound incoherently on his key board.
I love MUScoop in the summer.
Hilarious and so accurate. Well played.
Quote from: MUSF on July 31, 2010, 01:44:49 AM
Because if Chico's said the sky was blue, Lenny would argue that it"s actually aqua.
Of course at that point Marquette 84 would give us a lengthy definition of both blue and aqua and a statistical analysis of how many times the two words were used interchangeably. Ners would then become outraged at the insinuation that Buzz would ever mistakenly define the sky as blue and demand that all attacks on Buzz's character cease immediately. This would prompt Canadian Dimes to pound incoherently on his key board.
I love MUScoop in the summer.
LOOOOOOOOOL! Best. Post. Of. Year.
Kentucky says bye bye to Darnell Dodson tonight.......
Mbakwe has been 'OK'd' / cleared by the AD at Minnesota...
http://www.gophersports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=8400&ATCLID=204976867 (http://www.gophersports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=8400&ATCLID=204976867)
Aren't they worried he might defect during the "Tour of Canada"?
Nice reporting job. No mention of the charges he was facing.