Marquette's home attendance came was 10th highest per game, (15,617 per game) Bucky was 6th. Its funny to see just how little draw some of the Big East schools must have. Cuse was 2nd (22,152) and Louisville 3rd (19,397) yet the Big East averaged only 11,000 per game. Overall it is still a good sign considering what the expectations were coming into the season. I didn't think we would be in the top 10 this year. I'm looking for a full list but here are a couple links.
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/93582689.html
http://blogs.denverpost.com/sports/2010/05/12/cu-hoops-attendance-increase-sixth-best/
Quote from: Arod on May 12, 2010, 11:00:37 AM
the Big East averaged only 11,000 per game.
Wonder what the average would be if USF was taken out of the equation? Their attendance is brutal.
QuoteWonder what the average would be if USF was taken out of the equation? Their attendance is brutal.
And Depaul
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yet the Big East averaged only 11,000 per game.[/quote]
Part of that has to do with several schools having small arenas.
The Joyce Center(ND) is only 9800 seats
The RAC(Rutgers) is only 8000 seats
Gampel Pavillion(UConn) is just over 10000 seats
Villanova and St. John's played games on campus at arenas that are just over 6000 seats.
Here is the full report if anyone wants it. Also there is already a thread or a few hundred debating the IU v MU/Crean v Buzz. So lets agree to ignore that 10 and 11 are MU and IU.
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/8753820042742b01b8b6be967b4a3893/Awide_Mbkbattlists.pdf?MOD=AJPERES&CACHEID=8753820042742b01b8b6be967b4a3893
Quote from: DJO's Pump Fake on May 12, 2010, 11:07:53 AM
And Depaul
Actually Depaul wasn't to bad they were actually one of the better teams in the conference; 1 spot above ND, 2 above PC, 4 above Cinci. USF had a stealer 4,884 per game.
And if you talk about attendance on the non football schools that a lot of people talk about making a conference of top 75 includes:
MU 10
Creighton 15
Dayton 28
GTown 29
Nova 38
Wichita St(?) 41
Xavier 44
Bradley(?) 52
Depaul 59
ND 60
PC 61
St Louis 73
SHall 75 (a bunch of others round out the top 100 including Butler, Charlotte, zaga) Not trying to start the conference debate either, just putting it out there for people who might be curious.
School Rank Attendance
Syracuse 2 22152
Louisville 3 19397
Marquette 10 15617
West Virginia 27 12375
Georgetown 29 12040
Connecticut 34 11685
Villanova 38 10936
Pittsburgh 42 10289
DePaul 59 8451
Notre Dame 60 8402
Providence 61 8289
Cincinnati 64 8076
Seton Hall 75 7103
St Johns 88 6107
Rutgers 5236
S Florida 4884
Average 10690 |
Quote from: Arod on May 12, 2010, 11:53:43 AM
Actually Depaul wasn't to bad they were actually one of the better teams in the conference; 1 spot above ND, 2 above PC, 4 above Cinci. USF had a stealer 4,884 per game.
If I were in the Tampa area I'd go to their games just to see the Sun Dolls...
Do they distinguish between tickets sold and people who actually show up at the games?
Quote from: HoopsMalone on May 12, 2010, 12:04:21 PM
Do they distinguish between tickets sold and people who actually show up at the games?
Attendance is tickets sold in any sport, any level & any program. It's not that hard.
Quote from: LancesOtherNut on May 12, 2010, 11:57:27 AM
If I were in the Tampa area I'd go to their games just to see the Sun Dolls...
http://www.usf-sundolls.com/
That's great! I actually thought we had a little bit of a lousy home Big East schedule, as far as days of the week were concerned. It seems to me that we didn't have as many weekend games as we usually do and that is when we generally get a lot of our most raucous crowds.
Although, no matter what day of the week it is, nothing beats going to an MU game!
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on May 12, 2010, 02:35:05 PM
That's great! I actually thought we had a little bit of a lousy home Big East schedule, as far as days of the week were concerned. It seems to me that we didn't have as many weekend games as we usually do and that is when we generally get a lot of our most raucous crowds.
Although, no matter what day of the week it is, nothing beats going to an MU game!
I agreed. Seemed like very few big, home weekend games this year as compared to prior years.
Quote from: marqptm on May 12, 2010, 12:12:21 PM
Attendance is tickets sold in any sport, any level & any program. It's not that hard.
Thank You, it's always tickets sold. MU doesn't give away free tickets anymore to boost that number.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on May 12, 2010, 02:35:05 PM
That's great! I actually thought we had a little bit of a lousy home Big East schedule, as far as days of the week were concerned. It seems to me that we didn't have as many weekend games as we usually do and that is when we generally get a lot of our most raucous crowds.
Good point, and we actually IMPROVED in ranking over last year (#14 last year), despite the fact attendance by the numbers was down (averaged 16,239 vs. 2009). 4 straight years in the top 15 nationally...not bad for a school that produces only about 1600 graduates a year and has an undergraduate student body of about 7000.
I don't think the decline (about 800 per game) should be taken as a real problem; in fact, if you look nationally, versus 2008, attendance was down across the board at most places (except Kentucky). It's probably indicative of a less weekend-centric schedule (compared to the 3 prior years especially).
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4844529/2008-2009-NCAA-Mens-Basketball-Attendance-Records/
Hey, MU beat the Milwaukee Bucks in the Bradley Center. They only averaged 15,108 this year.
http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance
Quote from: Tom Crean's Tanning Bed on May 12, 2010, 04:56:13 PM
Good point, and we actually IMPROVED in ranking over last year (#14 last year), despite the fact attendance by the numbers was down (averaged 16,239 vs. 2009). 4 straight years in the top 15 nationally...not bad for a school that produces only about 1600 graduates a year and has an undergraduate student body of about 7000.
I don't think the decline (about 800 per game) should be taken as a real problem; in fact, if you look nationally, versus 2008, attendance was down across the board at most places (except Kentucky). It's probably indicative of a less weekend-centric schedule (compared to the 3 prior years especially).
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4844529/2008-2009-NCAA-Mens-Basketball-Attendance-Records/
2007-08 season MU ranked #14, not last year. The 2008-09 season MU was ranked #10.
Quote from: mupanther on May 12, 2010, 03:46:04 PM
Thank You, it's always tickets sold. MU doesn't give away free tickets anymore to boost that number.
Well, yes they do.
Those are considered 'sold' tickets,
Indeed avg attendance/game went down 800 from the previous year.
This really surprises me. I figured it'd go UP 800, due to the $99 ticket packages that SOLD OUT. (IIRC, that's 1000 tickets. ??)
Now, of course not all those 1000 seats were to new people who never went to games before. But they certainly didn't go to all 17+ games the previous year.
Apparently, that increase in season ticket sales must have been offset by an even greater downward force .. the economy? Really? In reality, a MU game provides one of the cheapest sports entertainment events in town .. $15 gets you in .. almost the same as a movie ticket.
I'm guessing the biggest downward pressure was that MU had very few Saturday games this year, which always bring big crowds.
-- So my wife says she would expect the attendance to go down more next year, since there's "no one left to see, like Lazar."
I think the biggest counter to that is that over the past 5+ years, MU has performed consistently well, meaning the past 5 years worth of fans have rarely left disappointed with the product on the floor and the entertainment it provided. (A testament to MU's program as a whole.)
I imagine Season ticket sales will hold steady .. and the year end average will depend more on Saturday games than "known" players like Lazar.
Quote from: Tom Crean's Tanning Bed on May 12, 2010, 04:56:13 PM
Good point, and we actually IMPROVED in ranking over last year (#14 last year), despite the fact attendance by the numbers was down (averaged 16,239 vs. 2009). 4 straight years in the top 15 nationally...not bad for a school that produces only about 1600 graduates a year and has an undergraduate student body of about 7000.
I don't think the decline (about 800 per game) should be taken as a real problem; in fact, if you look nationally, versus 2008, attendance was down across the board at most places (except Kentucky). It's probably indicative of a less weekend-centric schedule (compared to the 3 prior years especially).
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4844529/2008-2009-NCAA-Mens-Basketball-Attendance-Records/
The ranking is nice, but the volume is how MU helps pay for Athletic Department operations. 800 down per game is unfortunate and means real dollars. I'm sure the economy, the initial expectations of the team, the home schedule all played into it. Let's hope we can have net growth this year.
Quote from: BrewCity on May 12, 2010, 06:46:20 PM
Hey, MU beat the Milwaukee Bucks in the Bradley Center. They only averaged 15,108 this year.
http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance
MU has actually outdrawn the Bucks 3 years in a row. I'm guessing that will change next year, due to the Bucks playoffs this year.
Bad-ass stat of the day:
Kentucky's average attendance...24,111
Rupp Arena capacity..................23,500
And they dont offer special deals. Gotta pay the athletes somehow.
So, the usual sell-out of UW accounted for about 240 of the 800...and I am sure the Tuesday night UWM game of 14,244 did not help the average either. So the local rival draw killed MU more than anything.
NCST was not the OOC attraction folks expected at 15,803. The rest was due to the lack of prime BE weekend game assignments on ESPN with the loss of the amigos.
How much did MU and ND playing at DePaul help them?
Quote from: marqptm on May 12, 2010, 08:17:20 PM
Well, yes they do.
Those are considered 'sold' tickets,
MU doesn't give away free tickets anymore. Your right a free ticket giveaway is a sold ticket. I was at a meeting last year and they stop giving away free-tickets. MU is pushing group tickets to, example Buzz's Bunch or MPS day.
Attendance normally picks up if MU is ranked for a couple of weeks. We were not ranked all year, I don't think. Plus, having few big games on weekends hurts a lot.
Given the economy, the low expectations for the team, and the above factors, this bodes well for MU and for attendance in the coming years. This year the team has little expectations outside of the fans who are showing up anyway. If we have a good season and are ranked some, then the following year (2011-2012) will see the uptick in attendance from the non-hardcore fan base; especially if we are ranked coming into the season.
The non-hardcore fan base comes out on Saturday's. It works that way for the Brewers and Bucks as well.