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Title: If Dwayne Wade just had one other decent player
Post by: KipsBayEagle on April 25, 2010, 02:13:49 PM
He is lighting it up against Boston right now 38 points on over 60 percent shooting.  He needs to go somewhere next year where he can get some help.
Title: Re: If Dwayne Wade just had one other decent player
Post by: Ellenson Guerrero on April 25, 2010, 02:17:16 PM
Can't wait to see DWade and DRose in the same backcourt next fall. Talk about getting to the rim at will. Put those two out there with Noah as your rebounder, and sign a few Jason Kapono types and I see a perennial championship contender.
Title: Re: If Dwayne Wade just had one other decent player
Post by: reinko on April 25, 2010, 02:21:58 PM
Sorry, biggest pet peeve on this board.

It's Dwyane, not Dwayne.  C'mon Kips.
Title: Re: If Dwayne Wade just had one other decent player
Post by: KipsBayEagle on April 25, 2010, 02:23:37 PM
Quote from: reinko on April 25, 2010, 02:21:58 PM
Sorry, biggest pet peeve on this board.

It's Dwyane, not Dwayne.  C'mon Kips.
Wow, I am embarrassed.  Demote me one full star :(
Title: Re: If Dwayne Wade just had one other decent player
Post by: willie warrior on April 25, 2010, 02:57:23 PM
He ended up with 46.
The cast around him is definitely marginal. Beasley can improve and has some moments, but the rest is pretty pathetic: Jermaine ONeal is washed up; the 2 headed PG of Arroyo/Chalmers is marginal; Haslem hustles but is a journeyman and is on the down side of his career; and the rest are role players. Richardson and Wright do provide a little depth.

Riley better get some talent in there quickly--or Wade is gone.
Title: Re: If Dwayne Wade just had one other decent player
Post by: Brewtown Andy on April 25, 2010, 03:14:17 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on April 25, 2010, 02:57:23 PM. Beasley can improve and has some moments,

But he's a complete headcase.
Title: Re: If Dwayne Wade just had one other decent player
Post by: MU in Miami on April 25, 2010, 04:01:49 PM
Quote from: Brewtown Andy on April 25, 2010, 03:14:17 PM
But he's a complete headcase.

+1
Title: Re: If Dwayne Wade just had one other decent player
Post by: wadesworld on April 25, 2010, 04:20:54 PM
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on April 25, 2010, 02:17:16 PM
Can't wait to see DWade and DRose in the same backcourt next fall. Talk about getting to the rim at will. Put those two out there with Noah as your rebounder, and sign a few Jason Kapono types and I see a perennial championship contender.
Keep dreaming
Title: Re: If Dwayne Wade just had one other decent player
Post by: avid1010 on April 25, 2010, 07:32:09 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on April 25, 2010, 04:20:54 PM
Keep dreaming

+1, Although I think Miami is hurting their chances with the way Wade's teamates are playing.  They're not just a Chris Bosh away from a championship.  They need more than a few role players as well.
Title: Re: If Dwayne Wade just had one other decent player
Post by: wadefan#1 on April 25, 2010, 07:51:23 PM
I'm sorry, I've never heard of Dwayne Wade. But I have heard of Dwyane Wade.
Title: Re: If Dwayne Wade just had one other decent player
Post by: brewcity77 on April 26, 2010, 09:28:29 AM
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on April 25, 2010, 02:17:16 PM
Can't wait to see DWade and DRose in the same backcourt next fall. Talk about getting to the rim at will. Put those two out there with Noah as your rebounder, and sign a few Jason Kapono types and I see a perennial championship contender.

I'm a lifelong Bulls fan, and would love to see this happen, but I just don't believe it. Miami can offer him more money, no state taxes, and he already has a championship ring. Down there, the spotlight is his, whereas in Chicago he'd be the main guy, but Rose has already established himself as a star, so there'd be more sharing involved. I expect the Bulls will instead be looking at either Johnson or Boozer.

Granted, totally off this topic...but how great would Lebron and Noah be on the same team? Also won't happen, but I imagine people would just hate playing against that front court, both from a perspective of on-court and trash talking.
Title: Re: If Dwayne Wade just had one other decent player
Post by: jficke13 on April 26, 2010, 09:38:55 AM
by far my least favorite bball player in the nba is noah.
Title: Re: If Dwayne Wade just had one other decent player
Post by: GuyIncognito on April 26, 2010, 09:41:42 AM
Quote from: lawwarrior12 on April 26, 2010, 09:38:55 AM
by far my least favorite bball player in the nba is noah.

Noah is like a Harangody, Hansbrough, etc. You'd love to have him on your team, but easy to hate.
Title: Re: If Dwayne Wade just had one other decent player
Post by: brewcity77 on April 26, 2010, 09:45:36 AM
Quote from: GuyIncognito on April 26, 2010, 09:41:42 AM
Noah is like a Harangody, Hansbrough, etc. You'd love to have him on your team, but easy to hate.

+1 He reminds me of Bill Laimbeer. I used to hate those Pistons teams, and especially Laimbeer, when there was the late 80s rivalry with the Jordan Bulls. But as I got older, I came to respect what Laimbeer did, and it's the reason I love Noah now. He's kind of like a great heel in professional wrestling, like Ted DiBiase or Ric Flair. They work so hard to get inside your head and to be hated, you sort of have to admire them for it, all the while thinking they are complete sons of bitches :D
Title: Re: If Dwayne Wade just had one other decent player
Post by: LON on April 26, 2010, 09:47:48 AM
I can't really stand the guy, but I tend to agree with the sentiment that "Cleveland sucks."

http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2010/04/18/joakim-noah-is-candid-cool-cleveland-sucks-kevin-garnett-is-a-dirty-player/
Title: Re: If Dwayne Wade just had one other decent player
Post by: jficke13 on April 26, 2010, 10:58:22 AM
noah is more like spreewell or shawn kemp. hate to have em on my team, hate to play against them.
Title: Re: If Dwayne Wade just had one other decent player
Post by: Lacrosse218 on April 26, 2010, 11:04:34 AM
Quote from: lawwarrior12 on April 26, 2010, 10:58:22 AM
noah is more like spreewell or shawn kemp. hate to have em on my team, hate to play against them.

How the hell can you say you hate to have him on your team?  The guy is a rebounding monster and is getting better with every game.  He brings tons of energy and pumps up the team and fans.  I will agree that he is easy to hate if you don't have him, but to say you hate to have Noah is one of the dumbest comments I have ever heard.
Title: Re: If Dwayne Wade just had one other decent player
Post by: jficke13 on April 26, 2010, 11:06:04 AM
i think some steelers fans hate that raplisberger is on their team. there are some people who aren't worth having around. period. on my list is noah.
Title: Re: If Dwayne Wade just had one other decent player
Post by: Lacrosse218 on April 26, 2010, 11:10:17 AM
Big Ben is scum, yeah I agree that some Steelers fans hate having him now cause he is a headache to have around.  Noah is quite the opposite, yes he can be a loud mouth, but he doesn't rack up technicals like Rasheed Wallace or hurt his teams performance.  He called Cleveland a dump and lets be honest, that place is awful, theres a reason it's nickname is "the mistake on the lake".  Besides, that comment was hilarious.
Title: Re: If Dwayne Wade just had one other decent player
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 26, 2010, 11:21:15 AM
Quote from: Lacrosse218 on April 26, 2010, 11:10:17 AM
Big Ben is scum, yeah I agree that some Steelers fans hate having him now cause he is a headache to have around.  Noah is quite the opposite, yes he can be a loud mouth, but he doesn't rack up technicals like Rasheed Wallace or hurt his teams performance.  He called Cleveland a dump and lets be honest, that place is awful, theres a reason it's nickname is "the mistake on the lake".  Besides, that comment was hilarious.

I remember when Josh Smith said that there was "Nothing to do in Milwaukee" (I'm paraphrasing, of course).

except that there is a LOT to do in Milwaukee.

lets not take what ignorant folks say as gospel.
Title: Re: If Dwayne Wade just had one other decent player
Post by: brewcity77 on April 26, 2010, 11:25:23 AM
Quote from: lawwarrior12 on April 26, 2010, 11:06:04 AM
i think some steelers fans hate that raplisberger is on their team. there are some people who aren't worth having around. period. on my list is noah.

I think the difference is that Ben is a scumbag who may be good on the field, but is a lowlife and loser off of it. Noah is a trash-talker who really doesn't do much offensive off the field (yeah, the old marijuana charge, but that is NOT the same as rape) but does plenty of good on it and is great at getting into the heads of his opponents.

I hope he spends his entire career in a Bulls uniform. I hated the pick when he was drafted because I never thought he'd make the next level transition, but he has worked hard to legitimize himself as one of the best rebounders in the league, and is brilliant for great sound bites.
Title: Re: If Dwayne Wade just had one other decent player
Post by: CrazyEcho on April 26, 2010, 11:26:31 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysmLA5TqbIY
Title: Re: If Dwayne Wade just had one other decent player
Post by: brewcity77 on April 26, 2010, 11:41:48 AM
Quote from: CrazyEcho on April 26, 2010, 11:26:31 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysmLA5TqbIY

+1000 :D

And it doesn't even mention that it has a smell that rivals Gary, Indiana.
Title: Re: If Dwayne Wade just had one other decent player
Post by: GoldenWarrior on April 26, 2010, 01:38:23 PM
1.  I'm from Cleveland
2.  Die hard CLE sports fan... yes even before LBJ
3.  I thought Noah's comments were hilarious, especially the "It's all factories" portion
4.  Cleveland is actually a nice place in some regards and not so nice in others, but generally is a great place to raise a family... night life and "big city" atmosphere not so much, which is what visiting NBA players look for...
5.  Noah is better than I thought he would be in the NBA, but still isn't THAT good
6.  The entire Heat roster is expiring contracts except for Wade and Beas I believe, so he'll have a chance to get those "other guys" around him once more

GO CAVS!!
Title: Re: If Dwayne Wade just had one other decent player
Post by: MU B2002 on April 26, 2010, 01:44:12 PM
Quote from: GoldenWarrior on April 26, 2010, 01:38:23 PM

2.  Die hard CLE sports fan... yes even before LBJ



My condolences.
Title: Re: If Dwayne Wade just had one other decent player
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 26, 2010, 01:49:52 PM
Quote from: KipsBayEagle on April 25, 2010, 02:23:37 PM
Wow, I am embarrassed.  Demote me one full star :(

I believe that this is an appropriate self imposed sanction, and I hope that the moderators will accept this and find that no additional penalties are warranted.





Kips, I'm glad you got caught.  Now I'll know better.  It's hard to argue with Reinko, He WAS MU's best ever.
Title: Re: If Dwayne Wade just had one other decent player
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 26, 2010, 01:56:47 PM
Quote from: Brewtown Andy on April 25, 2010, 03:14:17 PM
But he's a complete headcase.

It's still hard for me to believe that when the Bulls lucked out and got the top pick in the 2008 draft, John Paxson who has been mostly an idiot GM, declared right away that he wasn't going to jump to any rash conclusions and take at least a month to decide between whether to take Derrick Rose or Beasley.  Now if he only hadn't done that Ben Wallace trade....
Title: Re: If Dwayne Wade just had one other decent player
Post by: GoldenWarrior on April 26, 2010, 02:00:19 PM
Quote from: MU_B2002 on April 26, 2010, 01:44:12 PM

My condolences.
Appreciated...
Title: Re: If Dwayne Wade just had one other decent player
Post by: MU B2002 on April 26, 2010, 02:01:57 PM
Quote from: LittleMurs on April 26, 2010, 01:56:47 PM
It's still hard for me to believe that when the Bulls lucked out and got the top pick in the 2008 draft, John Paxson who has been mostly an idiot GM, declared right away that he wasn't going to jump to any rash conclusions and take at least a month to decide between whether to take Derrick Rose or Beasley.  Now if he only hadn't done that Ben Wallace trade....

That had to be all posturing.  I don't believe for a second that they ever consider any player other than Chicago's own Derrick Rose.   (Maybe I am wrong, as that has been known to happen.)
Title: Re: If Dwayne Wade just had one other decent player
Post by: GoldenWarrior on April 26, 2010, 02:10:11 PM
Happy Chicago got Wallace and then shipped him to Cleveland... really set the stage for our personnel make-over in Cleveland these past few yrs
Title: Re: If Dwayne Wade just had one other decent player
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 26, 2010, 02:13:35 PM
Quote from: MU_B2002 on April 26, 2010, 02:01:57 PM
That had to be all posturing.  I don't believe for a second that they ever consider any player other than Chicago's own Derrick Rose.   (Maybe I am wrong, as that has been known to happen.)

You'd really think it had to be posturing, but he was serious.  He spent quite a bit of time with Beasley.  He seemed to want to make the point that he wasn't going to go with Rose just because Rose was the popular choice.
Title: Re: If Dwayne Wade just had one other decent player
Post by: GoldenWarrior on April 26, 2010, 02:45:05 PM
Quote from: LittleMurs on April 26, 2010, 02:13:35 PM
You'd really think it had to be posturing, but he was serious.  He spent quite a bit of time with Beasley.  He seemed to want to make the point that he wasn't going to go with Rose just because Rose was the popular choice.
I wouldn't blame Paxson for be intrigued with Beas as the kid was a stud at KSU and a quality big man who was being viewed the way he was then doesn't happen too often.  Now of course looking back Beas is viewed totally different with character problems, not being productive enough as a #2 overall, etc
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