Reggie Theus interviewed on Thursday, but nothing since.
Isiah Thomas floated his name in the Chicago Tribune, but no call made.
Word on the street in Indy is Scott Drew and Brad Stevens have no interest.
Brian Gregory said no to Boston College today, and indicated he is staying at Dayton.
Are they gonna be stuck bringing Tracy Webster back at this point?
Promote Doug Bruno from their women's team.
Interestingly, the move to 96 tournament teams is being cited as a reason why coaches like Gregory won't make the jump to the ACC. He can win at Dayton, get into the tournament, and not have to face a brutal conference schedule.
Words cannot describe how poorly DePaul has f*cked this up. I mean, they have known since January that they needed a coach, but still haven't found one.
I really think at this point they need to find an assistant coach that they believe in and take a shot. Maybe that assistant turns into the next Tom Crean and puts DePaul back on the map. Be the best thing they could do. Worked for us.
Quote from: SERocks on April 05, 2010, 03:03:01 PM
I really think at this point they need to find an assistant coach that they believe in and take a shot. Maybe that assistant turns into the next Tom Crean and puts DePaul back on the map. Be the best thing they could do. Worked for us.
Agreed. I would look at Dwayne Stephens - a guy who can clearly recruit and has done very well as an Izzo assistant.
Marquette won 20 games for 6 straight seasons including 4 NCAAs before one bad year the year Crean was brought in. Let's not compare that to Depaul, and despite everyhting Crean says to build up his reputation MU was no where near the wasteland he would have you or potential suitors think it was.
My student season tickets as Freshman under Dukiet were in the upper deck. yet Crean will have everyone beleive the student draw at games was similar to Depaul's. Careful who you listen to when you are looking for an Mu BBAll history lesson.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on April 05, 2010, 03:00:31 PM
Interestingly, the move to 96 tournament teams is being cited as a reason why coaches like Gregory won't make the jump to the ACC. He can win at Dayton, get into the tournament, and not have to face a brutal conference schedule.
Words cannot describe how poorly DePaul has f*cked this up. I mean, they have known since January that they needed a coach, but still haven't found one.
Smart thinking by Gregory. Rumor going around that DePaul is now interested in Oliver Purnell, the Clemson coach.
A potentially interesting hire for DePaul ... Has had success (both at Dayton & Clemson), gets his teams to the tournament, but never wins. I wonder if his lack of post-season success is causing him to feel some heat down in South Carolina. He's also 56. I think DePaul is desperately in need of a high energy young coach.
I suggest keeping Tracy Webster.
QuoteMarquette won 20 games for 6 straight seasons including 4 NCAAs before one bad year the year Crean was brought in. Let's not compare that to Depaul, and despite everyhting Crean says to build up his reputation MU was no where near the wasteland he would have you or potential suitors think it was.
My student season tickets as Freshman under Dukiet were in the upper deck. yet Crean will have everyone beleive the student draw at games was similar to Depaul's. Careful who you listen to when you are looking for an Mu BBAll history lesson.
Crean did not and has not stated that Marquette was a wasteland, it was a decent program at the time and he elevated it. Looking through that is selective, people that hate Crean see through what he did for the program.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on April 05, 2010, 03:19:21 PM
I suggest keeping Tracy Webster.
Well, if you're going to hire an assistant, you may as well hire an effective one. There are much better assistants out there than Webster.
Hate throwing this name out there since someone may feed this name to JLP (and he's near the top of my list if Buzz were to leave in the near future), but what about John Groce from Ohio? He can certainly coach as evidenced by the beating Ohio laid on Georgetown in the NCAA Tournament, and playing from the 8 seed in the MAC tourney into the NCAAs. He's a proven recruiter during his time as an assistant at Ohio State, as he spearheaded the Oden/Conley/Daequan Cook/Othello Hunter/David Lighty class back in 2005.
Quote from: damuts222 on April 05, 2010, 03:28:47 PM
Crean did not and has not stated that Marquette was a wasteland, it was a decent program at the time and he elevated it. Looking through that is selective, people that hate Crean see through what he did for the program.
Completely disagree. He's stated that at some donut session (which was later revealed to have been held on a weekend or the summer or something) there were like 9 students to greet him as the new HC. He used this as a barometer of the level of support. IIRC, the number of fans per game has also been stated, by him, to have been around 12k before his arrival. I also recall him telling someone (that idiot on WTMJ?) that before he got there, the team had trouble getting practice shoes. Whatever his contributions to the program (and I do think they were significant), the guy is a borderline pathological liar.
Quote from: Canadian Dimes on April 05, 2010, 03:09:36 PM
Marquette won 20 games for 6 straight seasons including 4 NCAAs before one bad year the year Crean was brought in. Let's not compare that to Depaul, and despite everyhting Crean says to build up his reputation MU was no where near the wasteland he would have you or potential suitors think it was.
My student season tickets as Freshman under Dukiet were in the upper deck. yet Crean will have everyone beleive the student draw at games was similar to Depaul's. Careful who you listen to when you are looking for an Mu BBAll history lesson.
1). This makes so much sense now. Admission standards were pretty low during the Dukiet era so that explains how you squeaked through.
2). Dukiet coached 2 of his 3 years at the MECCA so having seats in the upper deck doesn't mean squat. His third year was the inaugural year of the Bradley Center where attendance was high anyway due to the novelty
3). Now here is the reality of 1997 and 1998, the two years prior to Crean taking over (which have no relationship to your years 10 years earlier which is why it's so bizarre you even brought them up).
Attendance for students was God awful. There's a reason why I pushed so hard with the university, Cords, the students, etc to go to a General Admission policy. It took us a long time, with hearings at ASMU, the President of the university, also Father Leahy, the Bradley Center GM, etc, etc, to get that done. There was a lot of resistence for awhile. The Lens ( on ths board ) and others were essential to making this happen as well.
It was my belief that if we went to a General Admission student policy the students would actually show up, be energized, and help the team win. Ultimately we won over the necessay people and it became policy in 1999.
Simply put Mr. Hayward, student attendance and student ticket purchases were terrible at the middle of the Deane regime until we made that critical change and created the Fanatic Club to bolster sales.
You're entitled to your own opinions but not to your own set of facts.
QuoteCompletely disagree. He's stated that at some donut session (which was later revealed to have been held on a weekend or the summer or something) there were like 9 students to greet him as the new HC. He used this as a barometer of the level of support. IIRC, the number of fans per game has also been stated, by him, to have been around 12k before his arrival. I also recall him telling someone (that idiot on WTMJ?) that before he got there, the team had trouble getting practice shoes. Whatever his contributions to the program (and I do think they were significant), the guy is a borderline pathological liar.
If you have evidence of such an article reporting on any of these claims I can read into it further, and I could be wrong. I don't know how he is a pathological liar, but dozens of coaches lie about not leaving their current job and days later do exactly that.
Sorry this is hijacking the thread, but coming to conclusions based on evidence that I don't recall doesn't cut it, and I just don't like the bashing of players, coaches, etc. just because...with no evidence to support a statement.
Feel free to read Scoop from the weeks following his departure if you're indeed a new fan of Marquette basketball or new to this forum.
Quote from: Canadian Dimes on April 05, 2010, 03:09:36 PM
Marquette won 20 games for 6 straight seasons including 4 NCAAs before one bad year the year Crean was brought in. Let's not compare that to Depaul, and despite everyhting Crean says to build up his reputation MU was no where near the wasteland he would have you or potential suitors think it was. My student season tickets as Freshman under Dukiet were in the upper deck. yet Crean will have everyone beleive the student draw at games was similar to Depaul's. Careful who you listen to when you are looking for an Mu BBAll history lesson.
Are you suggesting Tom Crean was less than honest? Such an allegation is an outrage. Tom Crean is a man of his word! A man of his word I tell you!
QuoteFeel free to read Scoop from the weeks following his departure if you're indeed a new fan of Marquette basketball or new to this forum.
So your factual evidence is this forum where people post their opinions...
As much as I appreciate what Crean did for us, I'd like to know what student function he was talking about where 9 people showed up. I put most of those together and in several cases we had close to 100 or so. Now, that being said, coming from Michigan State he probably thought that was pathetically small. He was named coach I think April 2nd but spent most of the first month out recruiting. We organized a few on campus appearances for him in May when he returned, but most students were studying for finals and already skeptical of a basketball program clearly on the downswing (despite whatever fantasy musings Mr. Hayward \ Canadiandimes has).
So it was tough to get students to show up, but 9 people is an exaggeration unless it was a function that I wasn't at...which is entirely possible as well.
The first "Coffee, Crean and donuts" was held in fall of 1999. I was one of the students there and there were probably 10-15 of us, plus the coaches and the players.
Quote from: Mike McCarter on April 05, 2010, 04:23:31 PM
The first "Coffee, Crean and donuts" was held in fall of 1999. I was one of the students there and there were probably 10-15 of us, plus the coaches and the players.
The first one I set up and we had to move it to a larger room in the union due to the size. We had to move it to room 215 ( my memory is fuzzy on the meeting room number as this was a decade ago ) but we gave out stress balls in the form of basketballs for the students to use for finals. There may have been subsequent meetings but that first one was at capacity of that meeting room... I'd say over 100 people
They should look at recently fired coaches from St. John's and Iowa. They are not going to do better than that.
Best available coach might be Jim Baron. An east coast guy with NY roots, underappreciated at Rhody.
While I know DePaul wants a big name with NCAA tourney experience, it may be worth the effort to at least contact Chris Collins win or lose tonight. I'm sure Krzyzewski will offer him advice similar to what he did with Quin Snyder (one of the reasons he held out until Mizzou became available for his first job), and he would likely turn it down unless a lot of criterion are met by JLP and the school's administration, but at this point is there really much difference between him and Chris Lowery if you've dragged your feet this long in the hiring process?
I also agree with the point that the expansion to 96 teams is going to make coaching searches far more difficult. I think it's going to be an assistant before a coach, and I would be really surprised if it's a "big name" coach.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on April 05, 2010, 03:00:31 PM
Interestingly, the move to 96 tournament teams is being cited as a reason why coaches like Gregory won't make the jump to the ACC. He can win at Dayton, get into the tournament, and not have to face a brutal conference schedule.
Words cannot describe how poorly DePaul has f*cked this up. I mean, they have known since January that they needed a coach, but still haven't found one.
It's DePaul! It's DePaul!
Not said with excitement, but slowly, in a monotone with eyes cast downward.
Quote from: warrior07 on April 05, 2010, 03:51:48 PM
Completely disagree. He's stated that at some donut session (which was later revealed to have been held on a weekend or the summer or something) there were like 9 students to greet him as the new HC. He used this as a barometer of the level of support. IIRC, the number of fans per game has also been stated, by him, to have been around 12k before his arrival. I also recall him telling someone (that idiot on WTMJ?) that before he got there, the team had trouble getting practice shoes. Whatever his contributions to the program (and I do think they were significant), the guy is a borderline pathological liar.
thank you
Crean has had so much hyperbole to what he built it is a joke. he would have potential employers beleive MU ar Depuals current level. Sorry but Mu was a 4 seed and conference runnerup behind top 10 cincinnati playing in front of crowds of 18000+ and top 25 nationally in attendence three years before Crean and won a Conference title the next year. Mike Deane won 100 games and Mu was perenially in the top 25 in attendence during his 5 yeras. I will admit he was letting program slip and was agreeable to his firing.
But Creans revisionist history would have us compared to dePual circa 2010. Unfortunately those that have started to follow Mu during the last 10 years ate that crap up. It's called building job security to leverage one's contract. "You see MU was never anything before I got here" or with other potential bidders " if I could build a program when 9 kids show up to a rally and so on and so on and could make your program the next UCla circa the '60's"
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 05, 2010, 03:53:05 PM
There's a reason why I pushed so hard with the university, Cords, the students, etc to go to a General Admission policy.
Our hero!
Here's my idea for DePaul. Use the 3 million this way. Hire Theus for 500,000 to 600,000 say, then give the remaining 2.5 or 2.4 million to a really good PR firm with the direction to use it to build up Theus as the best college basketball program builder in the history of the NCAA.
Could work. :-\
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 05, 2010, 04:32:27 PM
The first one I set up and we had to move it to a larger room in the union due to the size. We had to move it to room 215 ( my memory is fuzzy on the meeting room number as this was a decade ago ) but we gave out stress balls in the form of basketballs for the students to use for finals. There may have been subsequent meetings but that first one was at capacity of that meeting room... I'd say over 100 people
I'm almost positive you also pointed this out when he first made the claim that only a few people (9 or 15 or whatever it was) showed up for an event welcoming him to campus, as if that was the sole event welcoming him to MU.
Point being, using ONE poor attending event as representative of the interested on campus in Marquette basketball was absurd.
Quote from: LittleMurs on April 05, 2010, 08:18:36 PM
Here's my idea for DePaul. Use the 3 million this way. Hire Theus for 500,000 to 600,000 say, then give the remaining 2.5 or 2.4 million to a really good PR firm with the direction to use it to build up Theus as the best college basketball program builder in the history of the NCAA.
Could work. :-\
They can have Nelligan and Zizzo Group. ::)
Quote from: DawsonCreekFillanderer on April 05, 2010, 08:18:18 PM
Our hero!
You're caught fabricating crap again and showing how totally wrong you are and this is your typical response. How you remain posting on here is a mystery.
Typical. Maybe you should tell us how great the student attendance was in 1977 as that would be equally irrelevent?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 05, 2010, 11:31:16 PM
You're caught fabricating crap again and showing how totally wrong you are and this is your typical response. How you remain posting on here is a mystery. Typical. Maybe you should tell us how great the student attendance was in 1977 as that would be equally irrelevent?
why not dazzle us with some tale of insider knowledge. funny how you are well outside the arc of college hoops. someone so connected should have the ear of college hoops power brokers.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on April 05, 2010, 09:19:52 PM
They can have Nelligan and Zizzo Group. ::)
That's Gold! Gold, ZFB!
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Oliver Purnell according to Goodman and foxsports.com
http://twitter.com/goodmanonfox
Here's a Sporting News Story
http://www.sportingnews.com/college-basketball/article/2010-04-06/reports-clemsons-purnell-headed-depaul
Quote from: warrior07 on April 05, 2010, 03:51:48 PM
Whatever his contributions to the program (and I do think they were significant), the guy is a borderline pathological liar.
End game.
Here is the original thread, posting a story from Brian Hamilton of the Chicago Tribune, who said that Crean was using the story about "17" people showing up for a Crean, Coffee and Whatever event.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=8582.25
Chicos also posted a story, on that thread, from some moron claiming that Marquette had been to the NCAA's once in 16 years before Crean's arrival. Don't know where that claim (source) came from but obviously some suggested it was Crean ...
I also got something incorrect earlier. Crean had been feeding people information that the attendance numbers were aroudn 7,200 before he got there. I thought he suggested 12k -- that was the actual # in attendance, apparently.
BTW, the Scoop search function is fantastically more efficient than using Google to find ancient stories about Crean statements from 2008 ...
Quote from: marq101 on April 06, 2010, 01:14:06 AM
Oliver Purnell according to Goodman and foxsports.com
http://twitter.com/goodmanonfox
Here's a Sporting News Story
http://www.sportingnews.com/college-basketball/article/2010-04-06/reports-clemsons-purnell-headed-depaul
Probably the best they cold do at this point.
Quote from: DawsonCreekFillanderer on April 05, 2010, 11:35:57 PM
why not dazzle us with some tale of insider knowledge. funny how you are well outside the arc of college hoops. someone so connected should have the ear of college hoops power brokers.
Connected to individual programs like DePaul? Hardly. Connected to programs like IU and some others due to the Big Ten Network, Mountain West Network, ESPN...yes. Then again, who was it here that told you guys almost a year ago the tournament was going to 96 teams. Yes, connected where I need to be but I'm not here to dazzle you or your pals like Mr. Hayward. Sorry.
As for contributions at Marquette, I'm very pleased with what my team accomplished. Many of thing policies and programs put into place are still alive and well more than a decade later (well, at least a good chunk of them....some should be resurrected in my opinion). General admission seating, fanatics, 288-GOMU, gomarquette.com, streaming of games, tiered ticket pricing, players\coaches calling season ticket holders, etc, etc. Standing the test of time is always a nice recognition. My team worked their asses off.
By the way, welcome to the board, it's so good to have such a "new poster" that has never been here before. ::)
I appreciate what Crean did for MU and I bet he appreciates what MU did for him - but IMO Kevin Oneil put MU back on the map as a BB program - we lost steam with Dean and Crean took it to a new level