If Marquette students these days cared more about drinking and less about studying, MU would have won tonight!!!!
Not only do I agree with you, but I will defend to my death your right to say it. Back in my day we woke up blitzed everyday, that was Marquette. None of this studying business. We went to the bars 24/7. Students now just don't get it. Their improved academic rankings and overall prestige of the University has directly made the basketball team terrible. I can't stand it anymore.
I'd say the "gold out" was a complete bust. If the BC is usually 50% gold, it was maybe 70% gold tonight. Barely made a visual difference.
I think the students were fine.
But the rest of the lower bowl folks .. just do not know how to get into a game this year. It was odd .. at the beginning of the game, people kept standing after the national anthem, normally a time they sit. Figured people were jacked up. Didn't last.
Really needed the crowd this game, not just the students. Really sad showing. I think, too, it just gets worse every year.
Such positive attendance at the library and poor attendance at basketball games by those students is probably the reason we don't have a football team, either. There just wouldn't be enough support. As a student, you only have one chance to be in the "best student section in the nation." Put the books away and live a little...
There's a lot of hyperbole above but there's also some truth. I went to the bathroom (my seats are right at a bathroom) at the 1:30 mark and students were pouring out. I finally just screamed at them and said you're all f'n idiots, you're only in college once, stick around for a comeback.
Our crowds rarely get on their feet, we need some DJ TC love (Cotton Eyed Joe) to get going. Who the hell cares about a gold out, just tell everyone to stand occasionally.
Finally, you get your MU Viking types who love to brag about MU's rankings, endowments etc. Well frankly I liked it better when it was a bunch of drunk Irish kids from the southside with 2.9's who came to get a decent education and have a good time at the 'Lanche. I could care less about current app rates, current ACT scores, current donations (all #'s are inflated since every other school in America experienced huge growth too). MU is an decent school and lets get back to educating good kids who like to have a good time. They make for a better crowd. We're not Northwestern. Not off the court and thankfully on either.
Hey
I was one of those drunken Irish Kids at the 'Lanch
Those were the days.
The OP sounds facetious, but there are people who will see the board and not read the thread. I hate seeing threads with titles like this.
The crowd tonight was great until the inconsistency got to us. The crowd was the best I remember so honestly stop whining about the crowd.
Have to say, coming from a television viewer, the crowd looked really weak, especially compared to the georgetown cuse game that was on earlier.
i'm tired of this "back in my day..." BS.
The crowd was just fine, it was the players if the majority of the ticket holders were 60 year olds theyd be able to look more crazy on TV
Quote from: KipsBayEagle on February 18, 2010, 11:13:05 PM
Have to say, coming from a television viewer, the crowd looked really weak, especially compared to the georgetown cuse game that was on earlier.
I think the OP was mocking earlier threads. The crowd was great.....but somehow the fans weren't able to win the game.
Quote from: DomJamesToTheBasket on February 18, 2010, 11:18:46 PM
I think the OP was mocking earlier threads. The crowd was great.....but somehow the fans weren't able to win the game.
Whether it was mocking or not, it didn't look great on TV. Honestly, the Bradley center really has to let students get closer to the court. You couldn't even see our student section on TV.
I would like an explanation from someone who was booing at the end of the game, though.
Quote from: Brewtown Andy on February 18, 2010, 11:23:21 PM
I would like an explanation from someone who was booing at the end of the game, though.
My guess is they were booing for not fouling at the end.
Quote from: Brewtown Andy on February 18, 2010, 11:23:21 PM
I would like an explanation from someone who was booing at the end of the game, though.
I think that was residual from the BLATANT foul they didn't call when Jimmy was dragged to the ground going for a board.
the booing was b/c the band plays old songs, and b/c he PA announcer says "JIMMMY BUTTLAAHHH" incorrectly. SRSLY!!
I thought they were booing Aston Gibbs for mooning the MU student section???
The Mighty Mighty Bosstones have cost on average 4 games a year over the past 10 years.
The 'gold out' was an embarrassment. Saw tons of people there who I knew were MU alums....wearing green sweatshirts, black shirts, even (God forbid) RED shirts. What a joke. Gimme a break, is it that hard to wear a yellow shirt once a year?
The crowd stunk. I'm an alum, season tix in the lower bowl. Three times we started to make a run, I'm up standing and yelling....and got told to sit down. By OUR fans! I wanted to throw my kid's ice cream at them. NOBODY outside of the student section EVER stands unless it's the last 2 minutes of the game. Maybe. Even then it's halfhearted. It's so depressing.
It's almost like being at a Bucks game.
Quote from: warriors1991 on February 18, 2010, 11:29:03 PM
The 'gold out' was an embarrassment. Saw tons of people there who I knew were MU alums....wearing green sweatshirts, black shirts, even (God forbid) RED shirts. What a joke. Gimme a break, is it that hard to wear a yellow shirt once a year?
The fact of the matter is that not everyone is going to hear about the "Gold Out", so unless you put a Tshirt on every seat, it's not going to be perfect.
Quote from: timinatorx3 on February 18, 2010, 11:26:09 PM
the booing was b/c the band plays old songs, and b/c he PA announcer says "JIMMMY BUTTLAAHHH" incorrectly. SRSLY!!
I seriously think by the second half at every game the announcer turns his last name into one syllable somehow. ?-(
Quote from: The Lens on February 18, 2010, 10:56:13 PM
Well frankly I liked it better when it was a bunch of drunk Irish kids from the southside with 2.9's who came to get a decent education and have a good time at the 'Lanche. I could care less about current app rates, current ACT scores, current donations (all #'s are inflated since every other school in America experienced huge growth too). MU is an decent school and lets get back to educating good kids who like to have a good time. They make for a better crowd. We're not Northwestern. Not off the court and thankfully on either.
Yeah, let's just become UW-Green Bay or NIU, but at 3 times the price. Sounds like a plan!
Quote from: Brewtown Andy on February 18, 2010, 11:31:25 PM
The fact of the matter is that not everyone is going to hear about the "Gold Out", so unless you put a Tshirt on every seat, it's not going to be perfect.
Do you really have to "hear" about a gold out? If your a season ticket holder you should know to wear gold to the game....EVERY GAME!
Quote from: warriors1991 on February 18, 2010, 11:29:03 PM
Three times we started to make a run, I'm up standing and yelling....and got told to sit down. By OUR fans!
I've had that happen the last 2 seasons. It's not unique to this year. It's always deflating. My personal experience marks this as the best crowd this season. My section stood up more than any other game.
And every season ticket holder got at least one (I think two) emails about the gold out before hand. And I think it was mentioned in the paper.
95% of the season ticket holders knew about it. At least. Very lame effort.
If the students spent less time in the cafeteria and more time at the bradley center maybe we could actually live up to "the best student section in the nation." I saw more guys with boobs and girls with guts than I care to actually even describe. They can't jump up and down and cheer, they are too big. Instead, they need to rely on a 50 year old business man.
Back in my day the crowd sucked way worse than it has in the last ten years.
That said, no matter how great the students are, the seating placement sucks. Stick the enthusiastic fans in the corner and you'll get a half ass effort. Alumni will support the hell out of the program, but they won't jump up and down during a game. Put us in Camryn and it's not a problem, but the Bradley Center? No idea what the fix is, but the students deserve no blame.
Quote from: warriors1991 on February 18, 2010, 11:41:42 PM
And every season ticket holder got at least one (I think two) emails about the gold out before hand. And I think it was mentioned in the paper.
95% of the season ticket holders knew about it. At least. Very lame effort.
I honestly don't care if people wear gold. Does that really have an affect on the game? It's all about noise......
P.S. I wore gold. I understand the idea behind it......but I'll take noise over color ANY DAY of the week and twice on Sunday!
Quote from: DomJamesToTheBasket on February 18, 2010, 11:48:23 PM
I honestly don't care if people wear gold. Does that really have an affect on the game? It's all about noise......
P.S. I wore gold. I understand the idea behind it......but I'll take noise over color ANY DAY of the week and twice on Sunday!
Well, IMO, the lame effort to wear gold mirrors the lame effort by all the season tix holders and alums to cheer, and make noise. It's a college bball game, it's (supposedly) your beloved Warriors......stand up, make some noise, and make the effort, or give your tickets to somebody who wants to!
The crowd was one of the worst showings for a top 25 opponent in the last decade. Overall, the crowd has been weak this year.
I think a big part of the problem is the style of play this year. We just don't have many highlight-reel plays that fire up a crowd. We don't have a shotblocker. We are willing to cede dunks to big men that we can't defend. We have slowed the game down significantly compared to previous years. And even though we play pretty good defense, we don't create turnovers quite as much.
The average fan just doesn't see a whole lot to get excited about. We're just a bunch of flashless players that play fairly well.
boring ass game today, pitt took mu out of the game, mu played poorly, why blame the crowd?
Sitting in the student section and cheering my ass off when we need a defensive stop, it's disappointing when we don't see even half the enthusiasm coming from anyone else in the stadium. The students can only be so loud, but when the rest of the 19000 seat stadium is yelling for a stop, it usually happens. More than once today, a big play would happen, Dixon would call a time-out and the whole place would remain standing, but as soon as the whistle blew to restart play, everyone would sit down. What the hell is that? If you're not going to stand and cheer for Marquette when we need it, what the hell is the point of buying season tickets.
I just got back from the game ...
The crowd was great. It was ready to explode but the poor play really hurt.
The gold out was pretty good, 90% gold.
The booing at the end was for the no call on Jimmy.
Stop with the crowd. Maybe the mods could put together a "full of crap" list for all those that criticize the crowd and publish their real name and email so we can spam them with DePaul updates as punishment.
I saw it with my own eyes, you guys have lost credibilty whining about the crowd.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 19, 2010, 12:29:11 AM
I saw it with my own eyes, you guys have lost credibilty whining about the crowd.
+1
I was pretty impressed by the crowd. +1 to everyone that said it was the pace of the game and poor shooting took the air out of the arena. The student section can't start the momentum but they tried to be a driving force behind it. Upper bowl was pretty intense. Lot of the drunks that come to the game. For a Thursday I figured i'd see more of that but I'm not to the student side very often. A lot of talent up there too. Much better than the uggos and fatties in the lower bowl
maybe it was just my angle but it seemed like one side of the crowd was pretty Gold but the other side (the side with the scorers table) was much less gold.
I think an old man like PRN has wood reading this post right now... as he fantasizes "back in his day..."
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 19, 2010, 12:29:11 AM
The gold out was pretty good, 90% gold.
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Stop with the crowd. Maybe the mods could put together a "full of crap" list for all those that criticize the crowd and publish their real name and email so we can spam them with DePaul updates as punishment.
I am a mod, and I watched the game on TV, no WAY it was even 70% gold - unless we're dealing with the student section exclusively, then we'll hit your 90% number.
It's not crap, watch the copy you recorded, or watch the replay on ESPN360. The gold out was not evident at all, and the sound was, well expected. Only there when the team was playing well, otherwise it was like crickets. Kinda embarrassing we even called it a "gold out".
p.s. - I'm in Colorado which is why I only watched on TV. I'll be at the next 3 away games though yelling my head off wearing gold if you'd like to join me.
worst crowd of the year due to the fact we played our worst game of the year. no big plays by us, deflating plays and timeouts from Pitt. don't blame us students, we have energy at every game. we need more out of the season ticket holders. pretty poor attendance for a top 25 team too, i guess i thought Pitt was a bigger rival.
I've got to call BS on this one. I've commented on lame crowds before, but this was not one of them. In fact, throughout the first half I was thinking -- "now that's what I'm talkin about." People were up out of their seats cheering and arguing calls.
It was the best crowd all season as it should've been. I just wish it was more consitent.
I was at the game, I thought the crowd was fine.
Blaming the crowd is lamer than FDR's legs.......too soon? ;D
How many judgmental posts are from TV viewers? That isn't an accurate portrayal..... Quit judging from your TV and go to a game. Judge for yourself. Again, the crowd was great. I'm not going to take a TV viewers standpoint on this.
LOL... we scored 51 fricking point tonight and played like crap and you "old timers" start complaining about the crowd!!!! you guys suck. get a grip. the crowd was fine and the students were there in full force. it's just kind of hard to get into the game when we played like crap the whole game and scored 51 TOTAL points. i know i was jumping and getting rowdy in the student section at the appropriate times.
stop complaing about the crowd people. the crowd didn't lose tonight.
Marquette has one of the best crowds in the country. Look elsewhere for blame....try something with validity.
FYI... title should be in teal... for those in the know...
I thought my original post was so overboard in the sarcasm, I am honestly astonished half the thread agrees with it.
Quote from: timinatorx3 on February 19, 2010, 02:57:54 AM
FYI... title should be in teal... for those in the know...
I thought my original post was so overboard in the sarcasm, I am honestly astonished half the thread agrees with it.
How do you know? You looked different on TV.
You've got to be fucking kidding me. The student section was fine, forget the alums, they couldnt get off their ass if Al stepped back onto the court. Im starting to think the al-era alums are getting too old, the non-student part of the stadium didnt do a damn thing. Even last year they were at least involved. Maybe give the students a decent part of the stadium instead of sticking them in that corner. Hell, even Gonzaga another Jesuit school gets the whole side behind the benches and their tickets are completely free for students. Ours pay 85 or so dollars for shitty ass corner and upper deck seats, what do the people who only watch on tv expect? A Duke-like atmosphere every game? Give me a break, and quit this winning about the "but during Al's era we were so loud" BS. I never heard of Al before arriving on campus. And even thought I respect the hell out of him now, you are living in the past to think some 17 year old kid would come cheer his head off because of what Al accomplished 35 years ago. I'll prolly get banned again for this, but i think all should see it.
btw i did not say "fracking", or whatever BS word they put
This is the second thread in 2 games that said the crowd has been "the worst of the year"...
What in the HELL do people expect? The Circus? A rock concert?
The crowd wanted to get loud and rowdy, but Pitt owned the game. Maybe some posters aren't familiar with the notion of taking the crowd out of the game. When the home teams shoots 35% from the floor and trails most of the time while the visitors shoot 55% with a ton of dunks/lay-ups, it's tough to really get excited about the happenings on the court.
QuoteUpper bowl was pretty intense. Lot of the drunks that come to the game. For a Thursday I figured i'd see more of that but I'm not to the student side very often. A lot of talent up there too. Much better than the uggos and fatties in the lower bowl
+1 from experience
I mentioned this briefly one other time, particularly noting that I don't know how you fix it, but I am a big believer in this phenomenon. Too many people treat the lower bowl and even that front and best section vaguely like a Lakers game. ::whiny voice:: "Did you see me in the front row? I think I was on TV! I got there really early!" Sigh. Yes everyone saw you and your jeans and your student section shirt from 2 years ago. (sorry, jeans or lackthereof were always a way we sorted out superfans from not)
I didn't get there two hours early, I was busy drinking, watching Syracuse, and generally studying the BE basketball landscape. "Why would you watch them, its an MU game!" Sigh.
Quote from: warriorsforever on February 19, 2010, 01:13:54 AM
I was at the game, I thought the crowd was fine.
A lot of the perspective on the crowd, I suspect, depends on where you sit. From my perspective opposite the student section, it seemed to me the students were pretty into the game. After the first couple minutes, the rest of the place is basically a morgue other than isolated moments. Every time I stood up expecting the whole section to be getting up as well for a key play or big possession, and before long I realized I was standing just about by myself and blocking everyone's view behind me.
The crowd and whole program is in a different stratosphere from the 87-91 era when I was there, so I won't do any of the back in my day stuff. That said, every year when I can get up to the BC games I am so jacked going in, and too often walk out disappointed that there is no buzz (aside from the coach) in that stadium. 3/4 of the crowd sits there as if they are watching the game on tv. It's too bad. MU has a good home court record over the years, but I suspect it has more to do with comfort level and the quality of our teams than any kind of home court advantage in terms of crowd. I don't mean to be as harsh as that probably sounds, but I suspect it is true.
As a final thought, we lost last night b/c Pitt outplayed us pretty handily despite the close score, and that had very little to do with the crowd.
crowd was fine
our team played like crap and that doesn't help to get the crowd into the game. The crowd at duke, kansas, UK , whatever all gets taken out of the game at home when their team plays like garbage at home.
if i was a 70 year old alum w/season tickets and 2 hip replacements i would not be standing during that game either, cant blame all the old timers that have season tickets in the lower bowl, we need them to fill up the BC, anyone would look good at camryn indoor with the setup they have and all the students in the front row on top of the court.
and that butler bad missed hack at the end of the game really didnt matter because he would have probably bricked both of the following free throws that night because we couldn't buy a shot...
im thinking we are NIT bound after that game , unfortunately ,
Quote from: The Lens on February 18, 2010, 10:56:13 PM
There's a lot of hyperbole above but there's also some truth. I went to the bathroom (my seats are right at a bathroom) at the 1:30 mark and students were pouring out. I finally just screamed at them and said you're all f'n idiots, you're only in college once, stick around for a comeback.
Our crowds rarely get on their feet, we need some DJ TC love (Cotton Eyed Joe) to get going. Who the hell cares about a gold out, just tell everyone to stand occasionally.
Finally, you get your MU Viking types who love to brag about MU's rankings, endowments etc. Well frankly I liked it better when it was a bunch of drunk Irish kids from the southside with 2.9's who came to get a decent education and have a good time at the 'Lanche. I could care less about current app rates, current ACT scores, current donations (all #'s are inflated since every other school in America experienced huge growth too). MU is an decent school and lets get back to educating good kids who like to have a good time. They make for a better crowd. We're not Northwestern. Not off the court and thankfully on either.
WTF are you talking about?
Nice cliche rant.
You are now officially an "old guy". Great work.
Wear your pants above bellybutton today. You've earned it.
'02...any word if we set a State of Wisconsin Attendance record?
I think last night's student section was probably the best it had been all year... we alumni need to pick it up more... I hate to admit it, but we are lame overall as a crowd!!
Quote from: Schoolyard on February 19, 2010, 08:49:46 AM
'02...any word if we set a State of Wisconsin Attendance record?
I counted everybody there. We came up 3 people short.
Those 3 nerds in the library need to close the books and hit the game instead.
I'll say it again, part of the "crowd problem" is that we are playing college basketball games in an arena built for an NHL team.
Are we really complaining about the crowd last night? There was nothing wrong with the crowd last night. There was a lot of fans wearing gold last night. More than normal. Will never get 100% participation no matter what. The student section was good but not great but than again it was a weekday game. The crowd was ready to bust out numerous times and was rocking whenever we had a run going or needed a stop or a bucket. I saw fans on their feet more this game than a usual game. Hard to get the place really rocking when (1) the other team is dunking the ball on us regularly (2) we can't make a shot when we really need it (3) the refs are not doing us any favors (4) there is no good rhythm to the game.
Credit Pitt for playing very good defense that didn't require a lot of help D, playing physical enough to not get fouls called on them yet get into Lazar's head and playing good enough offensively to get easy shots when they were not turning the ball over.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 19, 2010, 10:15:11 AM
I'll say it again, part of the "crowd problem" is that we are playing college basketball games in an arena built for an NHL team.
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Agreed, but thank goodness we can drink beer at the games!!
for the first half i was sitting in 443 near the baseline, to the left of the student section. Moved one section towards the student section, and couldn't believe the noise difference. i thought the students were solid.
I go to marquette and get drunk at least 3-4 times a week and still manage to get good grades. It might be a better student section if we get a team that can matchup physically with other teams. We r boys playing men. Our best player, lazar, would b a role player on other teams. To put it simply, marquette is and always will be a middle of the pack big east team. I think everyone needs to stip blaming the students and rehashing your glorydays cuz kids in college are the same as they were back in your day.
Quote from: muwarriors89 on February 19, 2010, 12:49:37 PM
I go to marquette and get drunk at least 3-4 times a week and still manage to get good grades. It might be a better student section if we get a team that can matchup physically with other teams. We r boys playing men. Our best player, lazar, would b a role player on other teams. To put it simply, marquette is and always will be a middle of the pack big east team. I think everyone needs to stip blaming the students and rehashing your glorydays cuz kids in college are the same as they were back in your day.
troll/moron
Quote from: warriors1991 on February 18, 2010, 11:29:03 PM
The 'gold out' was an embarrassment. Saw tons of people there who I knew were MU alums....wearing green sweatshirts, black shirts, even (God forbid) RED shirts. What a joke. Gimme a break, is it that hard to wear a yellow shirt once a year?
The crowd stunk. I'm an alum, season tix in the lower bowl. Three times we started to make a run, I'm up standing and yelling....and got told to sit down. By OUR fans! I wanted to throw my kid's ice cream at them. NOBODY outside of the student section EVER stands unless it's the last 2 minutes of the game. Maybe. Even then it's halfhearted. It's so depressing.
It's almost like being at a Bucks game.
The students might need to borrow the "stand up old people" chant from the Badgers student section. The students looked fine (though they do need to get them closer to the court). But the lower bowl is basically a retirement home. Don't buy the BC as the problem in this case...there are 70 year old geezers at Cameron that you're afraid are going to drop at any moment because they get so into the game. That's the fan, not the venue.
Doesn't Marquette have one of the top attendances in the country??? That is UNBELIEVABLE. That should be appreciated......warts and all.....I understand wanting to be better, but the crowd wasn't atypical.
The crowd was fine last night. The students were there early and en masse. Loved the Fuzz Williams sign. The Gold Out was about 85% except the money seats which is what everyone saw on TV. They weren't wearing blue or gold.
But, what was with 2600 empty blue seats disguised as Warrior fans? If the MU AD wants to "Gold Out", they may want to try dressing in gold too. It might be good to also hand out the Club Cambria and sponsor suites gold tees rather then blue.
Honestly, our schedule is killing the crowd jive this year. The one thing you could say about the officials yesterday was they were consistent--with Pitt clutching and grabbing us to slow us down on every contested play. Jimmy was backwoodsed about three times, and Zar had to enter a domestic abuse shelter today. Nothing like killing a fan experience today with all the technology than have the BE not allow controversial replays to make these officials accountable (and I think most crews would be proven right almost all the time). But, adding more technology to add energy to a crowd apparently is not a good thing.
In the end, it was Pitt's D yesterday that killed the mojo.