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Title: John Dodds.. There in the end.....12th seed...
Post by: texaswarrior74 on November 06, 2009, 02:10:36 PM
http://marquette.scout.com/2/916848.html
Title: Re: John Dodds.. There in the end.....12th seed...
Post by: copious1218 on November 06, 2009, 02:17:21 PM
First positive article I have seen about the upcoming season - Katz had a fairly neutral article a couple weeks ago, but nothing about finishing tied for 6th in the Big East.
Title: Re: John Dodds.. There in the end.....12th seed...
Post by: downtown85 on November 06, 2009, 02:29:26 PM
Wow.  He's more bullish than me.  I hope he is right!
Title: Re: John Dodds.. There in the end.....12th seed...
Post by: MR.HAYWARD on November 06, 2009, 02:49:32 PM
Just becuase you operate a site does not mean you know anything.  $10 a month for nothing, IWB who apparently has more contacts than Bausch and Laumb was supposedly the reason to throw money down that rat hole.  he is not even there anymore.  Better discussion and more information at MUScoop.  That site is like a empty auditorium.  Except for Dodds giving Crean credit for everything like a broken record.
Title: Re: John Dodds.. There in the end.....12th seed...
Post by: GOMU1104 on November 06, 2009, 02:57:15 PM
Quote from: MR.HAYWARD on November 06, 2009, 02:49:32 PM
Just becuase you operate a site does not mean you know anything.  $10 a month for nothing, IWB who apparently has more contacts than Bausch and Laumb was supposedly the reason to throw money down that rat hole.  he is not even there anymore.  Better discussion and more information at MUScoop.  That site is like a empty auditorium.  Except for Dodds giving Crean credit for everything like a broken record.


That is probably the biggest joke of a sentence I have ever seen on here.  All of the info posted on here is 2nd hand.  If by "better discussion," you mean "every post turning into pro-crean vs anti crean" then yes, you woudl be correct.
Title: Re: John Dodds.. There in the end.....12th seed...
Post by: MR.HAYWARD on November 06, 2009, 03:02:39 PM
Quote from: GOMU1104 on November 06, 2009, 02:57:15 PM

That is probably the biggest joke of a sentence I have ever seen on here.  All of the info posted on here is 2nd hand.  If by "better discussion," you mean "every post turning into pro-crean vs anti crean" then yes, you woudl be correct.


But you are here?! 



Title: Re: John Dodds.. There in the end.....12th seed...
Post by: GOMU1104 on November 06, 2009, 03:04:22 PM
Quote from: MR.HAYWARD on November 06, 2009, 03:02:39 PM

But you are here?! 



I do enjoy making the rounds, and contributing. But to say that this site has "better discussion and more information" is just not true.
Title: Re: John Dodds.. There in the end.....12th seed...
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on November 06, 2009, 03:04:24 PM
Quote from: GOMU1104 on November 06, 2009, 02:57:15 PM

That is probably the biggest joke of a sentence I have ever seen on here.  All of the info posted on here is 2nd hand.  If by "better discussion," you mean "every post turning into pro-crean vs anti crean" then yes, you woudl be correct.

Isn't it equally a joke to say EVERY POST is a pro-crean vs anti-crean post?
Title: Re: John Dodds.. There in the end.....12th seed...
Post by: copious1218 on November 06, 2009, 03:07:30 PM
Holy cow . . . did chicos and hayward just take the same side of an issue?
Title: Re: John Dodds.. There in the end.....12th seed...
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on November 06, 2009, 03:07:57 PM
He's definitely on the bullish side, but he has a strong basketball acumen so it's certainly a legit opinion. 

John did pick the Badgers to win the Big Ten last year, however (though he consistently nailed it in years prior).  I had the Badgers 5th last year and 7th this year.

I hope John is right about MU and I'm right about UW-Madison
Title: Re: John Dodds.. There in the end.....12th seed...
Post by: copious1218 on November 06, 2009, 03:21:07 PM
"John did pick the Badgers to win the Big Ten last year, however (though he consistently nailed it in years prior).  I had the Badgers 5th last year and 7th this year."

Where does John have UW finishing this year?
Title: Re: John Dodds.. There in the end.....12th seed...
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on November 06, 2009, 03:26:08 PM
Quote from: copious1218 on November 06, 2009, 03:07:30 PM
Holy cow . . . did chicos and hayward just take the same side of an issue?

I'm just so happy to have Mr. Hayward back in the family fold here on MU Scoop, I wanted to throw him a bone.
Title: Re: John Dodds.. There in the end.....12th seed...
Post by: TallTitan34 on November 06, 2009, 03:56:19 PM
Quote from: GOMU1104 on November 06, 2009, 02:57:15 PM
That is probably the biggest joke of a sentence I have ever seen on here.  All of the info posted on here is 2nd hand.  If by "better discussion," you mean "every post turning into pro-crean vs anti crean" then yes, you woudl be correct.
As you may or may not know I frequently post video highlights of the Marquette games on Scoop.  The first time I posted videos, I posted a thread on Hoops letting them know I had game highlights they could watch.  I had no ill will towards Dodds or his website.  I just wanted Marquette fans to be able to view Marquette highlights.

Dodds sent me an e-mail saying he had notified ESPN, however, he said if I posted the videos on his website he might be able to work out a deal with ESPN.  I ignored him and I have yet to hear from ESPN.

MUScoop doesn't censor links to other Marquette websites.  If anything they encourage them.  Scoop gives the Marquette fan access to everything Marquette no matter the source.

Over at Hoops if you try to give the people anything from another site its blasphemy.
Title: Re: John Dodds.. There in the end.....12th seed...
Post by: Benny B on November 06, 2009, 04:03:31 PM
Any website that includes a QB from Issaquah, WA on its list of "Marquette Recruits" is about as useless to me as a QB is to Marquette.
Title: Re: John Dodds.. There in the end.....12th seed...
Post by: GOMU1104 on November 06, 2009, 04:10:25 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on November 06, 2009, 03:56:19 PM
As you may or may not know I frequently post video highlights of the Marquette games on Scoop.  The first time I posted videos, I posted a thread on Hoops letting them know I had game highlights they could watch.  I had no ill will towards Dodds or his website.  I just wanted Marquette fans to be able to view Marquette highlights.

Dodds sent me an e-mail saying he had notified ESPN, however, he said if I posted the videos on his website he might be able to work out a deal with ESPN.  I ignored him and I have yet to hear from ESPN.

MUScoop doesn't censor links to other Marquette websites.  If anything they encourage them.  Scoop gives the Marquette fan access to everything Marquette no matter the source.

Over at Hoops if you try to give the people anything from another site its blasphemy.

A signficant amount of info gets linked at muhoops...so Im sorry to hear that you got censored.

But...do you honestly believe that there is more information here at Muscoop, than at MUhoops?  That is what started me on this path...someone saying that there is "better discussion, and better information at Muscoop"

Title: Re: John Dodds.. There in the end.....12th seed...
Post by: bma725 on November 06, 2009, 04:15:24 PM
Quote from: Benny B on November 06, 2009, 04:03:31 PM
Any website that includes a QB from Issaquah, WA on its list of "Marquette Recruits" is about as useless to me as a QB is to Marquette.

Dodds has nothing to do with that.  The National Scout.com writers, Dave Telep and Evan Daniels, control what gets put on the recruiting lists.  The local site can only ask that something get added or removed.
Title: Re: John Dodds.. There in the end.....12th seed...
Post by: MR.HAYWARD on November 06, 2009, 04:48:38 PM
so you are saying that even tho he sent the email he had nothing to do with it? ::)
Title: Re: John Dodds.. There in the end.....12th seed...
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on November 06, 2009, 05:09:11 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on November 06, 2009, 03:56:19 PM
As you may or may not know I frequently post video highlights of the Marquette games on Scoop.  The first time I posted videos, I posted a thread on Hoops letting them know I had game highlights they could watch.  I had no ill will towards Dodds or his website.  I just wanted Marquette fans to be able to view Marquette highlights.

Dodds sent me an e-mail saying he had notified ESPN, however, he said if I posted the videos on his website he might be able to work out a deal with ESPN.  I ignored him and I have yet to hear from ESPN.

MUScoop doesn't censor links to other Marquette websites.  If anything they encourage them.  Scoop gives the Marquette fan access to everything Marquette no matter the source.

Over at Hoops if you try to give the people anything from another site its blasphemy.

LOL.  Definitely don't link to an AP photo, you  would definitely not want to get a call from the AP because they were tipped off by big brother somewhere else.

Definitely don't link to a blog...blog links aren't allowed....unless of course it's IWB's blog then it's ok.  LOL

At the end of the day, those guys make $$$$ on their website.  The guys that run this site, aren't making money and neither is Cracked Sidewalks.    They have financial incentive to keep their viewers from staying there and not going elsewhere....which is fine.  Wish them well. 
Title: Re: John Dodds.. There in the end.....12th seed...
Post by: nyg on November 06, 2009, 05:10:14 PM
Back on track.  Don't really give a crap who has a better site, better graphics, better personalities etc., go to whatever site you like and just enjoy.

Now, if this guy's predictions are 21-9, 11-6 in BE and a 12th NCAA seed, then Buzz Williams has to be BE coach of the year and MU the surprise team.  
Title: Re: John Dodds.. There in the end.....12th seed...
Post by: mu_hilltopper on November 06, 2009, 05:20:01 PM
Ok, everyone .. settle down.  There's plenty of room on the internets for all of us.


Quote from: GOMU1104 on November 06, 2009, 04:10:25 PM
But...do you honestly believe that there is more information here at Muscoop, than at MUhoops?


Sometimes, yeah.  MUScoop skews younger, which means it has more students who see and hear more on-campus and "unofficial" events.    

Certainly, though, if recruiting stuff gets your rocks off, Scout is the better avenue.
Title: Re: John Dodds.. There in the end.....12th seed...
Post by: MUCrew on November 06, 2009, 06:08:27 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on November 06, 2009, 03:56:19 PM
As you may or may not know I frequently post video highlights of the Marquette games on Scoop.  The first time I posted videos, I posted a thread on Hoops letting them know I had game highlights they could watch.  I had no ill will towards Dodds or his website.  I just wanted Marquette fans to be able to view Marquette highlights.

Dodds sent me an e-mail saying he had notified ESPN, however, he said if I posted the videos on his website he might be able to work out a deal with ESPN.  I ignored him and I have yet to hear from ESPN.

MUScoop doesn't censor links to other Marquette websites.  If anything they encourage them.  Scoop gives the Marquette fan access to everything Marquette no matter the source.

Over at Hoops if you try to give the people anything from another site its blasphemy.

+1,000,000

Same thing happened to me.  I used to post my walls there....now they get nothing. 
Title: Re: John Dodds.. There in the end.....12th seed...
Post by: 79Warrior on November 06, 2009, 06:56:34 PM
Quote from: copious1218 on November 06, 2009, 02:17:21 PM
First positive article I have seen about the upcoming season - Katz had a fairly neutral article a couple weeks ago, but nothing about finishing tied for 6th in the Big East.

It will be the only one you will read.
Title: Re: John Dodds.. There in the end.....12th seed...
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on November 06, 2009, 09:36:13 PM
Quote from: GOMU1104 on November 06, 2009, 04:10:25 PM
A signficant amount of info gets linked at muhoops...so Im sorry to hear that you got censored.

But...do you honestly believe that there is more information here at Muscoop, than at MUhoops?  That is what started me on this path...someone saying that there is "better discussion, and better information at Muscoop"

No reasonable person can conclude there are better discussions on the other board. The place is a morgue. This board doesn't just "skew younger" as mu_hilltopper points out. This board "skews" objectivity. It "skews" people with differing opinions and it "skews" away from petulant, under-developed boy-men. Read that board for more a few days and you find yourself in need of some Purell. God only knows where the hands of some of those regular posters have been.
Title: Re: John Dodds.. There in the end.....12th seed...
Post by: 4everwarriors on November 06, 2009, 09:45:42 PM
Tough to run an objective board when you're on MU's payroll. Meanwhile, if you post Crean's stuff is yellow, brown, and stinks,.......you'll be banned for life.
Title: Re: John Dodds.. There in the end.....12th seed...
Post by: muhoosier260 on November 07, 2009, 03:38:09 AM
Quote from: GOMU1104 on November 06, 2009, 03:04:22 PM
I do enjoy making the rounds, and contributing. But to say that this site has "better discussion and more information" is just not true.

Here's a "for example" for you. The night before the Marquette v. Missouri NCAA tournament game, muscoop had information on James returning for the game, well before Sportscenter broke the story. I can't speak for the other site (b/c that curiously occurred b4 one can go back to look at threads from the site, it only goes back to May, at least from what I found) but this isn't the only time scoop has been cutting edge as far as information goes. Two other stories that broke here at least as early as anywhere else, and well before "official news sources" reported, were crean and vander blue. these are all big stories, and they broke at scoop fairly early in their respective developments. Maybe the discussion and information is equal, but after going to the other site, i've realized both sites are similar, I don't like the censoring at the other site and the label of scout
Title: Re: John Dodds.. There in the end.....12th seed...
Post by: MR.HAYWARD on November 07, 2009, 07:45:54 AM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on November 06, 2009, 09:36:13 PM
No reasonable person can conclude there are better discussions on the other board. The place is a morgue. This board doesn't just "skew younger" as mu_hilltopper points out. This board "skews" objectivity. It "skews" people with differing opinions and it "skews" away from petulant, under-developed boy-men. Read that board for more a few days and you find yourself in need of some Purell. God only knows where the hands of some of those regular posters have been.

+1 google  that was my point as well
Title: Re: John Dodds.. There in the end.....12th seed...
Post by: muguru on November 07, 2009, 09:19:59 AM
For recruiting info, this board does NOT even come close to Scout. Just ask yourselves one question....how many true "insiders" reside over here as opposed to the Scout board?? There's your answer as to which board is better.
Title: Re: John Dodds.. There in the end.....12th seed...
Post by: mu_hilltopper on November 07, 2009, 09:51:08 AM
Quote from: muguru on November 07, 2009, 09:19:59 AM
For recruiting info, this board does NOT even come close to Scout. Just ask yourselves one question....how many true "insiders" reside over here as opposed to the Scout board?? There's your answer as to which board is better.

No one said Scoop has better recruiting info.  Said the opposite:  If recruiting gets your rocks off, Scout is your board.   Personally, fantasizing about what 16 year old goes where does not do much for me, but everyone is different. 

In any event, being superlative in one aspect of MU news does not make one "the best."  Clearly, everyone has their favorite.
Title: Re: John Dodds.. There in the end.....12th seed...
Post by: Skatastrophy on November 07, 2009, 11:23:04 AM
This is the worst thread of the year.
Title: Re: John Dodds.. There in the end.....12th seed...
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on November 07, 2009, 11:42:55 AM
Quote from: muguru on November 07, 2009, 09:19:59 AM
For recruiting info, this board does NOT even come close to Scout. Just ask yourselves one question....how many true "insiders" reside over here as opposed to the Scout board?? There's your answer as to which board is better.

Of course, it all depends what you're looking for.  If you want recruiting go there, if you want uncensored discussion, you come here.  Pretty simple.

There's a reason why both boards exist, and a reason why you've found this board worthy enough to come by here.  Both have strengths and both have weaknesses. 
Title: Re: John Dodds.. There in the end.....12th seed...
Post by: tower912 on November 07, 2009, 12:08:19 PM
Both boards have recently suspended posters.    Both boards have locked and deleted threads.   This one does seem a little more tolerant and a little more democratic.    But it has no official affiliation/ties to the university, so it can afford to be.   
Title: Re: John Dodds.. There in the end.....12th seed...
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on November 07, 2009, 12:19:10 PM
Quote from: tower912 on November 07, 2009, 12:08:19 PM
Both boards have recently suspended posters.    Both boards have locked and deleted threads.   This one does seem a little more tolerant and a little more democratic.    But it has no official affiliation/ties to the university, so it can afford to be.   

Are you suggesting the other one is a mouthpiece for the university?
Title: Re: John Dodds.. There in the end.....12th seed...
Post by: tower912 on November 07, 2009, 12:41:21 PM
Nope.   But Dodds has been asked to sit on info before.    MUScoop has been asked indirectly to pull threads, also.  I enjoy both. 
Title: Re: John Dodds.. There in the end.....12th seed...
Post by: MR.HAYWARD on November 07, 2009, 01:24:03 PM
the scout board does not have "insiders" they have "pretenders".  ie we have inside info if ou are willing to pay for it.  hogwash. its called a scam
Title: Re: John Dodds.. There in the end.....12th seed...
Post by: warthog-driver on November 07, 2009, 05:09:30 PM
Quote from: Benny B on November 06, 2009, 04:03:31 PM
Any website that includes a QB from Issaquah, WA on its list of "Marquette Recruits" is about as useless to me as a QB is to Marquette.

The Issaquah HS QB is Ryan Bergman. I know he is getting looks from Pac 10 and MW schools. Our son was the starting right guard for Issaquah last season. Last season Issaquah went to the State Championship game but lost in the last minute to national powerhouse Skyline. Interesting note - both Skyline and Issaquah are in the Issaquah School District. These boys were on the same team until Skyline opened 4 years ago.  
Title: Re: John Dodds.. There in the end.....12th seed...
Post by: Amal's Fro on November 07, 2009, 09:41:45 PM
Anyone who says Dodd's board is more censored that this board is flat out wrong.  I was permanately banned from this board under my original user name for some reason I don't even know.   Never been banned from Dodd's board.
Title: Re: John Dodds.. There in the end.....12th seed...
Post by: 4everwarriors on November 07, 2009, 09:52:54 PM
Adios, was nice knowing ya, happy trails.
Title: Re: John Dodds.. There in the end.....12th seed...
Post by: mu_hilltopper on November 07, 2009, 11:01:53 PM
Hmm .. checking the notes, "flamer" was listed.  Feel free to prove us wrong with your new alias.
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