http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/wire/chi-ap-bkc-wooingblue,0,7676137.story
I look forward to seeing Vander Blue take the floor at the BC in November 2010.
I think it's a case of Blue blowing up athletically and not wanting to play in a half court offense. Blue would definitely look great in blue & gold! BTW, Aaron Bowen also seems to be blowing up down south. The difference is that MU's offense is perfect for showcasing his talents! Those TWO together in the same recruiting class (w/ the 6'-10" Clark) - priceless!
Quote from: HoopDreams on May 20, 2009, 06:14:29 PM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/wire/chi-ap-bkc-wooingblue,0,7676137.story
In breaking news, Bucky Fans blame Wes Matthews for VB decommitting.
Quote from: reinko on May 20, 2009, 06:40:31 PM
In breaking news, Bucky Fans blame Wes Matthews for VB decommitting.
;D
They should blame that style they play, it's like watching Air Force run the wishbone. It wins them games but no one wants to play in it.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 20, 2009, 07:14:45 PM
;D
They should blame that style they play, it's like watching Air Force run the wishbone. It wins them games but no one wants to play in it.
I don't think it's that nobody wants to play in it. I think Bo just likes to wrap up his classes early with players that have potential, but have yet to develop fully.
Quote from: The Wizard of West Salem on May 20, 2009, 08:19:50 PM
I don't think it's that nobody wants to play in it. I think Bo just likes to wrap up his classes early with players that have potential, but have yet to develop fully.
Seriously? Okay - how about talented, athletic players don't want to play in a half court offense that doesn't score a lot? Large farm boys don't mind it.
If the style don't fit, you must decommit!
Sorry.
Good one! LMAO
Quote from: mu77vegas on May 20, 2009, 08:34:33 PM
Seriously? Okay - how about talented, athletic players don't want to play in a half court offense that doesn't score a lot?
Like Devin Harris, Marcus Landry, etc. etc. etc.
Don't be overly simplistic. The Jesuits taught you better than that.
Quote from: The Wizard of West Salem on May 20, 2009, 09:18:23 PM
Like Devin Harris, Marcus Landry, etc. etc. etc.
Don't be overly simplistic. The Jesuits taught you better than that.
Devin was not a Bo recruit.
Man, does Matthews want to supplant Wade as Marquette's main spokesman?
Nice! Now we just need him to make the NBA!!! ;D
Quote from: Chili on May 20, 2009, 09:19:01 PM
Devin was not a Bo recruit.
So that leaves us with Landry. Didn't he play in the NBADL? If I was a talented senior in high school I wouldn't look to Bo to get me to the next level based on his track record.
I actually felt sorry for Marcus Landry- being wasted in the slow down style Bo uses..., I just don't understand his insisting on forcing square pegs into round holes! I believe Landry had much to show, build on, offer to a coach that could see his potential. As did Brian Butch coming out of high school. Bo's 'gift' if you will, is making much out of little. The danger is that some times he makes little out of much.
Quote from: mu77vegas on May 20, 2009, 09:32:18 PM
So that leaves us with Landry. Didn't he play in the NBADL? If I was a talented senior in high school I wouldn't look to Bo to get me to the next level based on his track record.
Ummm...Landry was a senior this year. He may play in the NBADL in the future, but he hasn't even graduated yet.
Quote from: bma725 on May 20, 2009, 10:20:57 PM
Ummm...Landry was a senior this year. He may play in the NBADL in the future, but he hasn't even graduated yet.
That shows how UW players don't stand out! I rest my case...!
Quote from: mu77vegas on May 20, 2009, 10:41:30 PM
That shows how UW players don't stand out! I rest my case...!
He has a brother, Carl, who is doing just fine in the NBA. Given, Carl is better, but Marcus has that type of potential as well.
Quote from: Chili on May 20, 2009, 09:19:01 PM
Devin was not a Bo recruit.
Yes. He signed with a coach who was offensively even less effective in Dick Bennett.
Quote from: packermania on May 21, 2009, 12:28:35 AM
He has a brother, Carl, who is doing just fine in the NBA. Given, Carl is better, but Marcus has that type of potential as well.
Carl is also bigger...that helps. Marcus is going to have to play the 3 which means he will have to shoot a lot better than he does now.
Quote from: mu77vegas on May 20, 2009, 09:32:18 PM
So that leaves us with Landry. Didn't he play in the NBADL?
It is pretty hard for me to take you seriously after this quote.
Quote from: The Wizard of West Salem on May 21, 2009, 05:59:17 AM
Yes. He signed with a coach who was offensively even less effective in Dick Bennett.
BC he was a virtual unknown coming out of East bc of injuries.
Quote from: Chili on May 21, 2009, 07:34:26 AM
BC he was a virtual unknown coming out of East bc of injuries.
Virtual unknown? Harris was Mr. Basketball and the AP Player of the Year in 2001 and ranked in the top 150 by a couple of services. The injuries held him back, but he was still a sought after player.
Bo's a great coach who has mastered a system which maximizes his talent. But there is some truth to most of the top players not wanting to play in a system where you have to make the other team defend for 25 seconds, i.e. slow the tempo on O and then defend like a dog on the d end. Most high profile guys see the NBA is a different beast and want to play more to that style in college.
Ya think any other fast paced high school ballers in Chicago will hear Wes' message here about UW-Madison? This type of article in the Tribune won't help Bo recruit the Chicago area...
Quote from: bma725 on May 21, 2009, 07:47:51 AM
Virtual unknown? Harris was Mr. Basketball and the AP Player of the Year in 2001 and ranked in the top 150 by a couple of services. The injuries held him back, but he was still a sought after player.
Was that after he already signed with UW? I don't recall the timeline, but I thought Harris didn't really explode until his Sr. year due to injuries. What were his other offers at the time he signed with UW?
I'm going with bma on this one. Would not be surprised to see a year of prep school followed by enrollment at MU.
Quote from: ATWizJr on May 21, 2009, 08:21:33 AM
I'm going with bma on this one. Would not be surprised to see a year of prep school followed by enrollment at MU.
I don't know, I could see the appeal of that, but I get the impression that getting another state championship at Memorial might be a big motivation for Blue.
Quote from: Litehouse on May 21, 2009, 08:36:57 AM
I don't know, I could see the appeal of that, but I get the impression that getting another state championship at Memorial might be a big motivation for Blue.
Doesn't prep school usually come after your senior season in high school?
Quote from: Litehouse on May 21, 2009, 08:18:23 AM
Was that after he already signed with UW? I don't recall the timeline, but I thought Harris didn't really explode until his Sr. year due to injuries. What were his other offers at the time he signed with UW?
That is my point. He blew up his Sr. yr. He was a virtual unknown before that and was already going to UW.
Quote from: ChuckyChip on May 21, 2009, 09:15:25 AM
Doesn't prep school usually come after your senior season in high school?
Not sure, but I think you can enter prep school and use it as your hioghschool or take a post graduate year after high school. Anyone?
Quote from: ATWizJr on May 21, 2009, 10:06:52 AM
Not sure, but I think you can enter prep school and use it as your hioghschool or take a post graduate year after high school. Anyone?
Depends on the school, but yes.
It actually happened this year with Lazar's old school Notre Dame Prep. Two Milwaukee kids, Johnny Lacy of Bay View and Calvin Godfrey of Custer, decided to leave and play out there rather than stay in MPS because they wanted to improve their chances for qualifying(and not suffer the same fate as Dwight Buycks). Lacy is doing his senior year and Godfrey will actually spend his junior and senior year out there.
Quote from: packermania on May 21, 2009, 12:28:35 AM
He has a brother, Carl, who is doing just fine in the NBA. Given, Carl is better, but Marcus has that type of potential as well.
Carl went to Purdue. The point that UW players don't stand out still stands.
If only everyone, not just stud ballers, had the chance to escape MPS. I'd consider selling a kidney to get my kids out of that abyss.
Quote from: jficke13 on May 21, 2009, 01:33:34 PM
If only everyone, not just stud ballers, had the chance to escape MPS. I'd consider selling a kidney to get my kids out of that abyss.
The only reason to live in Milwaukee County is if you can't live without paying outrageous property taxes and getting nothing in return.
So are people thinking that there was any legitimacy to the "Vander Blue won't qualify" rumor. With no actual information I'm more inclined to follow my gut and say that was the rantings of the jilted lovers over in the People's Republic of Madison.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on May 21, 2009, 02:13:27 PM
The only reason to live in Milwaukee County is if you can't live without paying outrageous property taxes and getting nothing in return.
Or you find places outside the city boring as sin and as stale as white bread. I grew up in Waukesha and New Berlin and wouldn't be caught dead living back out in those places.
Quote from: Chili on May 21, 2009, 03:25:36 PM
Or you find places outside the city boring as sin and as stale as white bread. I grew up in Waukesha and New Berlin and wouldn't be caught dead living back out in those places.
So you live in Milwaukee?
Quote from: jficke13 on May 21, 2009, 01:33:34 PM
If only everyone, not just stud ballers, had the chance to escape MPS. I'd consider selling a kidney to get my kids out of that abyss.
Get to the suburbs man. Brookfield, MF the Quon Gtown or even the North Shore -you're still in MKE county but the schools are infinitely better- (just don't go south or to the Dirty Stallis) or anything.
Chili forgets that even in the burbs you're only 20-45 mins away from the city (pending traffic) so it being bored as sin can be fixed with a short car ride.
MPS is so fugged up. It starts with the culture in the "ghetto" neighborhoods. They place more value on looking tight, etc. then education. I'm working with some inner city youths this summer and it's appaling to see the living conditions. A different world once you hit 50th and whatever.
Quote from: jficke13 on May 21, 2009, 01:33:34 PM
If only everyone, not just stud ballers, had the chance to escape MPS. I'd consider selling a kidney to get my kids out of that abyss.
It's called "open enrollment," but you'll find some MPS schools are impressive. We compared apples to apples, as far as the type of student each school gets, and found plenty that faired better than many of the suburbs. Suburbs just get more impressive students. The diversity and personalization some of the charter schools provide is amazing...and some are just scary bad...
I was thrilled to hear how much they're paying their search firm to find a new superintendent. What a joke.
Quote from: Ari Gold on May 21, 2009, 04:29:14 PM
Get to the suburbs man. Brookfield, MF the Quon Gtown or even the North Shore -you're still in MKE county
?
Brookfield is in Waukesha County, Menomonee Falls straddles both Waukesha and Washington Counties, Mequon is in Ozaukee County and Germantown is in Washington County.
<-------- Loves Oak Creek
Quote from: Ari Gold on May 21, 2009, 04:29:14 PM
Get to the suburbs man. Brookfield, MF the Quon Gtown or even the North Shore -you're still in MKE county but the schools are infinitely better- (just don't go south or to the Dirty Stallis) or anything.
Chili forgets that even in the burbs you're only 20-45 mins away from the city (pending traffic) so it being bored as sin can be fixed with a short car ride.
I like walking and cabbing to places I go. The suburbs sucked. I can't even stand going out to see my parents for more than day. BORING!
Quote from: avid1010 on May 21, 2009, 04:43:48 PM
It's called "open enrollment," but you'll find some MPS schools are impressive. We compared apples to apples, as far as the type of student each school gets, and found plenty that faired better than many of the suburbs. Suburbs just get more impressive students. The diversity and personalization some of the charter schools provide is amazing...and some are just scary bad...
I was thrilled to hear how much they're paying their search firm to find a new superintendent. What a joke.
I'd call it school choice but we aren't allowed to talk about that here. >:(
Quote from: Chili on May 21, 2009, 05:16:37 PM
I like walking and cabbing to places I go. The suburbs sucked. I can't even stand going out to see my parents for more than day. BORING!
+1
i think wes just said what pretty much EVERYBODY that has been following this story has been thinking. i love it. let the memorial pipeline continue
Does anyone think that if we managed to create a Madison Memorial "Pipeline" that someone would call foul and some kind of official bureaucratic inquisition launched?
Quote from: packermania on May 21, 2009, 12:28:35 AM
He has a brother, Carl, who is doing just fine in the NBA. Given, Carl is better, but Marcus has that type of potential as well.
You have got to be kidding me. Marcus Landry can't even sniff his brothers talent. Nothing against Marcus, but he was a slightly above average Big Ten forward. You are a terrible judge of talent. He absolutely does not have that type of potential...
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on May 21, 2009, 03:40:53 PM
So you live in Milwaukee?
My sis in law lives in the Jackson Park neighborhood of Milwaukee. Real nice roomy house in a good neighborhood. She's close to everything. More house than she could ever have in the suburbs.
But she has no kids.
If you like the city living, and don't have to worry about MPS because you have no kids or can afford private schools, there are many nice neighborhoods throughout Milwaukee.
<-------Loves Tosa, works downtown. Twenty minute commute even in the height of rush hour.
Love Sheboygan. 8 minute drive to work. The only time there is a rush hour is after the July 4th fire works. One hour drive to Milwaukee or Green Bay. Good schools and a safe community. Not afraid to walk anywhere at 2 am. Biggest stress is trying to make MU games in a snow storm.
Quote from: BrewCity on May 22, 2009, 08:14:49 AM
<-------Loves Tosa, works downtown. Twenty minute commute even in the height of rush hour.
I am with you here. I work in Waukesha, 20 mins there, 10-15 mins to downtown, however, the property taxes are killer. For the property taxes we pay now, you could get a house twice the size in Brookfield for the same amount.
Quote from: Strokin 3s on May 22, 2009, 09:04:28 AM
For the property taxes we pay now, you could get a house twice the size in Brookfield for the same amount.
That's the reason that I moved just over the border into Waukesha county. I could have a bigger property without a sidewalk, significantly lower property taxes and it only adds 5 minutes to my commute to downtown? No brainer.
I really enjoy a couple of the communities downtown, but I can't justify paying the property taxes for nothing in return. As DINKs all that we'd get is the privilege of shoveling our sidewalk :P
I'm a recent transplant to Sheboygan, and I hear ya on the snow storms, there were some serious white knucklers for a few of the games this year.
Franklin raised...nothing too special.
Your standard white-ass suburb with plenty of grocery stores, fast food restaurants, and car washes.
Sheboygan raised and when u jay walked the whole city knew about it (nice place to raise a kid but not to live after HS) Then Milwaukee downtown are loved it, then Greendale nice community but same snoopy community like Sheboygan but better access to games not a bad deal. Then LA and Phoenix loved the weather and females. Now back to suburbs of Milw and 20 minutes from downtown.
Quote from: muball on May 22, 2009, 11:40:57 AM
Sheboygan raised and when u jay walked the whole city knew about it (nice place to raise a kid but not to live after HS) Then Milwaukee downtown are loved it, then Greendale nice community but same snoopy community like Sheboygan but better access to games not a bad deal. Then LA and Phoenix loved the weather and females. Now back to suburbs of Milw and 20 minutes from downtown.
Wow. apparently MU basketball has a gravitational pull greater than can be expressed in any equation.