#6 MU vs. Utah State on Friday in Boise, Idaho
Meets up with Winner of #3 Missouri / #14 Cornell.
I think that's not bad!!
Geez, Boise ID. That sucks.
utah state...
what do we know about them?
I did not check 2 boxes on my NCAA ticket form. One was Boise. Aaaaarghhhhhhh!!!!!!!1
haven't seen missouri much this year and don't have a clue about utah state... anyone got thoughts on these match-ups?
It should be interesting. They have a solid big man but its nothing we haven't seen before. WE should be favored though. I don't mind the potential second round either.
I don't know, but this is the first time in a long while that I haven't been totally pissed over our seeding. All things considered, not too bad IMO
Utah State
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/clubhouse?teamId=328
Best win against Utah. Not much else RPI wise.
What time is tip?
Looks like best win was against Utah. Losses to Nevada, Boise St., St. Mary's and BYU. Their RPI is 25.
Haha, Wisconsin with a 12 seed against FSU.
Hmmm...I like it so far. Couldn't ask for much better.
But, being in CO, Boise was my preferred location. ;D
Now, if I can get away from work...
and...No. 2 Memphis in our bracket
I have talked to some Missouri fans and they are Jeckel/Hyde team. So its the roll of the dice. We could have gotten a worse matchup.
Actually, this is the first time this decade I don't feel like we were screwed by the selection committee.
Quote from: AlumKCof93 on March 15, 2009, 05:27:12 PM
Their RPI is 25.
Speaks to the absurdity of the RPI. Time to get rid of it. This is a game MU should win.
kinda favorable not crazy about utah St in idaho but that should not be that big of a deal, Misoori is quick but not big, Mu 's record versus Mike Anderson is not so good. this is a different team sweet 16 now that we dont have to play the best 5-6 teams in america...missouri will seem easy
Quick scouting report, Utah St. is the 13th best team in offensive efficiency in the country. They play insanely slow, they are ranked 324th in terms of pace. They shoot 2's, 3's and FT's well, to the pace of 13th, 9th, and 23rd best in the nation respectively. They are 4th in effective FG %.
Their defense is lackluster, at 169th best in the nation. Their 3 point defense is not good, they are ranked 297th in 3 point percentage. They are 325th in terms of forcing turnovers.
Quote from: 1990Warrior on March 15, 2009, 05:29:36 PM
Actually, this is the first time this decade I don't feel like we were screwed by the selection committee.
+1
Sounds like it will be a slow, grind it out game. I hate watching those games - hopefully we can speed it up.
http://kenpom.com/team.php?y=2009&team=Utah%20St. (http://kenpom.com/team.php?y=2009&team=Utah%20St.)
their Pomeroy scouting report.
If U of I got a 5 seed, we should have got a 2 seed. U of I is garbage.
Quote from: AlumKCof93 on March 15, 2009, 05:27:12 PM
Looks like best win was against Utah. Losses to Nevada, Boise St., St. Mary's and BYU. Their RPI is 25.
Their RPI is better than ours. They destroyed Nevada last night.
Based on the teams out in Boise, we're not going to get one of CBS's lead announce teams. I'm guessing we'll get one of these three for the call:
Ian Eagle/Jim Spanarkel
Craig Bolerjack/Bob Wenzel
Tim Brando/Mike Gminski
If I had to guess, we'll get Bolerjack and Wenzel. Find out tomorrow.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 15, 2009, 05:35:30 PM
They destroyed Nevada last night.
Well, They won by 10, 72-62.
I admittedly didn't watch the game. But from the final score it doesn't look like a complete "destruction".
Recent History of 6 VS 11
Wins/Losses:
2008: #6 wins 3/4
2007: split
2006: split
2005: #6 wins 3/4
2004: #6 sweeps
2003: #6 wins 3/4.
Against the spread:
Same as Wins/Losses except in 2005, an 11 won ATS and in 2003, two 11s that lost beat the spread.
11's that won:
2008 K-State beats USC 80-67
2007 Winthrop beats Notre Dame 74-64
2007 VCU beats Duke 79-77
2006 George Mason over Mich. State 75-65
2006 UWM over Oklahoma 82-74
2005 UAB beats LSU 82-68
2003: Central Michigan beats Creighton 79-73
Sounds like UState maybe will want to slow it down, but I know Mizzou will play uptempo, their coach is the old UAB coach, and loves to press. I think we got a good draw...although I don't like the idea of a grindy-slow painful Big10 like game the first round...we'll have to try to pressure UState to get them to play faster.
Quote from: Muhoops85 on March 15, 2009, 05:23:53 PM
I did not check 2 boxes on my NCAA ticket form. One was Boise. Aaaaarghhhhhhh!!!!!!!1
Call the MU ticket office,they may have not sold all their tickets for Boise.Worth a shot.
Anyone know when the times will be released, isn't it usually some time in the late morning tomorrow??
Anyone know when we tip-off?
This is great. I'm going to be in Madison on Friday for the Wisconsin boy's state tournament. Where do the Warrior fans hide away to watch a game in Badgerland?
I'm much happier than I thought I was going to be with our matchups and seeding. I like the first two potential matchups but agree that we're going to have to do everything possible to dictate the tempo against Utah State. Considering some of the alternatives to seeding that were going around in my head, I won't complain.
I have to admit that I didn't watch any Utah St this year, but their resume is very lackluster. After having played 3 #1 seeds in the past couple of weeks, these guys should be pretty underwhelming.
I love the Missouri match-up. They play MU's style... they turn teams over a lot, and they protect the ball well. They're a little longer than us, but they play fast.
I was pessimistic prior to the seedings, but I think we have the best set-up we could hope for. Agreed with all the comments above: we finally DIDN'T get screwed!
Mizzou's best players also very experienced like MU.
Quote from: SCdem@MU on March 15, 2009, 05:27:22 PM
Haha, Wisconsin with a 12 seed against FSU.
Wisconsin shouldn't even be in, but hopefully the Seminoles end the Badgers' season just like they did in football.
Interestingly enough, on the Utah State board they are claiming the committee did them a favor and that they are "actually the true 6 seed" based on their RPI...
I watched the Utah State v Nevada game last night. Utah State is good. Marquette will have their hands full and it will be a tough game to win.
Quote from: mwbauer7 on March 15, 2009, 06:27:01 PM
Interestingly enough, on the Utah State board they are claiming the committee did them a favor and that they are "actually the true 6 seed" based on their RPI...
Not too far out of the question actually... They are number 25 in the most recent coaches poll. They have 30 wins (none of any real value though). They have to be the best 11 in a long time. I still think we have a good chance against them though
If you are a 1 or 2 seed, your first game is easy. After that for the most part, it is going to be a tough tourney. Utah State looks pretty good on paper, and will be a challenge for us. We need to be super ready and do what we do best. . .GO MARQUETTE!!
One other quick thing...I believe that our likely first two opponents Mizzou has exactly zero games of tournament experience, and I believe Utah Sta has one player who has been there once.
You would think Dayton and Tennessee would also seem easy compared to playing Pitt, Louisville, and UCONN --- and look how that turned out. Missouri is not a good matchup for us and definitely won't seem easy.
I don't know a lot about Missouri this year but I think I would rather face them than the other 3 seeds, Syracuse, Villanova, Kansas.
It seems to me that this is about as good of a path as we could get. I would rather see Duke or MSU as the 2 in our bracket but sweet sixteen is definitely do-able.
I don't want to down play Utah State but a loss to them would be a major disapointment ala Tulsa in 2002, IMO.
Let's go Warriors.
Quote from: MUSF on March 15, 2009, 08:12:21 PM
I don't know a lot about Missouri this year but I think I would rather face them than the other 3 seeds, Syracuse, Villanova, Kansas.
It seems to me that this is about as good of a path as we could get. I would rather see Duke or MSU as the 2 in our bracket but sweet sixteen is definitely do-able.
I don't want to down play Utah State but a loss to them would be a major disapointment ala Tulsa in 2002, IMO.
Let's go Warriors.
This game reminds me of that Tulsa game. Tulsa had a very good RPI that year, they were only below us by about 10 spots despite them being a 12 seed. This year, this USU team actually has a better RPI than us. I think we win, but it will be a tough game is my guess.
Winner: The selection committee. It seeded Marquette too high (No. 6) and Florida State too low (No. 5) but got the No. 1 seeds correct and balanced the regions. And if you think the committee plays favorites, well, just ask one of its members: UCLA athletic director Dan Guerrero.
From Tournament Winners and Losers (http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_11921374)
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on March 15, 2009, 10:08:19 PM
Winner: The selection committee. It seeded Marquette too high (No. 6) and Florida State too low (No. 5) but got the No. 1 seeds correct and balanced the regions. And if you think the committee plays favorites, well, just ask one of its members: UCLA athletic director Dan Guerrero.
From Tournament Winners and Losers (http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_11921374)
They do realize that of our last 5 losses, they were pretty much all close WITHOUT our starting PG AND playing the #1, #2, #4, #10, and #11 teams in the field based on the S-Curve (Louisville, Pitt, UConn, Villanova, Syracuse), right?
All things considered, the committee probably did it about as good as they've done it in recent years.