What exactly makes people think that making more posts makes them more credible? I just don't understand the rationale behind so many people making comments about the number of posts someone has made.
Talking more does not make you smarter.
I only have like 45 posts on here, but I have been to just as many games, if not more, than other people on here, and I know just as much about MU basketball as anyone else.
If you don't agree with someone, that's fine. But don't think that because you spend more time on this website that your opinion is any more valid than mine or anyone else's who doesn't post daily.
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at least on this point.
Very valid point.
I know not but at least know that I know not.
I agree "skianth16", but you could use a better name. Your current handle looks like an email address that's offering me hot asian porn in my spam folder.
in your case, the lack of credibility has nothing to do with the post count and everything to do with your first post being "fire buzz."
Quote from: Erin Andrews' Thong on March 08, 2009, 05:57:47 PM
in your case, the lack of credibility has nothing to do with the post count and everything to do with your first post being "fire buzz."
Fire Buzz - was a cute comment. Sort of like something my 3 year old would say.
Is this a good place for a douche bag reference?
Your points are not invalid because of the number of posts you have made. Neither are Tribby's. They are invalid because they are unreasonable.
I don't remember ever reading a post of yours but i'll give you a generic answer, don't get offended:
Anyone who says posters with <X posts aren't worth talking to are jackasses but....
It isn't just the number of posts. Let's pretend that a message board is a place where people interact. These people have names and they talk to each other about things that they share mutual interests in, basically it's JUST LIKE IN REAL LIFE.
And in real life the more you talk to people the more you learn about them, by talking to them you find out if they are smart/avg/dumb, if they are cool/hot headed, if they put a lot of thought into their comments or if they just say whatever, or if they research things or do they just repeat any old rumor. That is how life works when you talk to people.
Why should it be differnet here? If some poster that has 1000+ posts then that means i've read a ton of them and he's read a ton of mine. If the two of us start talking to one another then the things i've read before influence how i respond to his comments.
Here's a hypothetical to illustrate what I'm trying to say. (In this assume it's the day after DJ went down and assume you thought we still had a shot to go far)
1) So In real life you have a friend and you know him well and you know that he knows tons about basketball in general and MU, you have talked to him many times and value his input. The day after DJ's injury he says "i've been thinking about it and we aren't making it past the 2nd round." Think about how you would respond.
2) You are in a bar and some stranger you've never met before walks over to you slurring and says "I've been thinking about it and we aren't making it past the 2nd round."
Do you respond the exact same way? Do you immediately assume that this guy is a level headed person who knows a ton about basketball and MU? No you don't. Because most people aren't. Most people only talk after a loss and bitch about things they don't understand. And I'm not going to assume someone has ties to the university, coaching experience or some level of understanding i might not posses until they show me that they do.
So it's not about the number, it's about posting enough for people to get to know you and that you have something to offer. I don't "know" you the same way i "know" 4ever, chico, bislu or sugar. It doesn't mean that you know less about MU basketball than they do, but you do have to post often enough to convince me, because this is the internet and for all i know you are a 15 year old badger fan.
Quote from: mviale on March 08, 2009, 06:03:05 PM
Fire Buzz - was a cute comment. Sort of like something my 3 year old would say.
Yeah, and all the "Buzz is god" garbage is any better. At least your three year old wouldn't just be repeating what everyone else is saying
Quote from: RawdogDX on March 08, 2009, 06:24:05 PM
I don't remember ever reading a post of yours but i'll give you a generic answer, don't get offended:
Anyone who says posters with <X posts aren't worth talking to are jackasses but....
It isn't just the number of posts. Let's pretend that a message board is a place where people interact. These people have names and they talk to each other about things that they share mutual interests in, basically it's JUST LIKE IN REAL LIFE.
And in real life the more you talk to people the more you learn about them, by talking to them you find out if they are smart/avg/dumb, if they are cool/hot headed, if they put a lot of thought into their comments or if they just say whatever, or if they research things or do they just repeat any old rumor. That is how life works when you talk to people.
Why should it be differnet here? If some poster that has 1000+ posts then that means i've read a ton of them and he's read a ton of mine. If the two of us start talking to one another then the things i've read before influence how i respond to his comments.
Here's a hypothetical to illustrate what I'm trying to say. (In this assume it's the day after DJ went down and assume you thought we still had a shot to go far)
1) So In real life you have a friend and you know him well and you know that he knows tons about basketball in general and MU, you have talked to him many times and value his input. The day after DJ's injury he says "i've been thinking about it and we aren't making it past the 2nd round." Think about how you would respond.
2) You are in a bar and some stranger you've never met before walks over to you slurring and says "I've been thinking about it and we aren't making it past the 2nd round."
Do you respond the exact same way? Do you immediately assume that this guy is a level headed person who knows a ton about basketball and MU? No you don't. Because most people aren't. Most people only talk after a loss and bitch about things they don't understand. And I'm not going to assume someone has ties to the university, coaching experience or some level of understanding i might not posses until they show me that they do.
So it's not about the number, it's about posting enough for people to get to know you and that you have something to offer. I don't "know" you the same way i "know" 4ever, chico, bislu or sugar. It doesn't mean that you know less about MU basketball than they do, but you do have to post often enough to convince me, because this is the internet and for all i know you are a 15 year old badger fan.
I get what you're saying and you're right. Interacting with someone lets you know how they think and whether or not they think similarly to you. But just because the first thing someone says disagrees with your opinion does not make them less intelligent or credible, which is the way many people think on this board.
The point of message boards is not so that everyone can repeat each other. It's to have a place for everyone's opinion to be heard. It's impossible to convince some people that they are not in fact the smartest person on here and that other opinions are just as valid
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 08, 2009, 06:19:14 PM
Your points are not invalid because of the number of posts you have made. Neither are Tribby's. They are invalid because they are unreasonable.
Is the title "fire Buzz" unreasonable? yes. Did it catch the attention of more people than "not a great first year"? Absolutely.
And read our posts. Trebby and myself have been some of the more collected people posting. The outbursts and ridiculous sarcasm by people too afraid to accept that other opinions exist are the ones who are unreasonable.
Quote from: skianth16 on March 08, 2009, 06:31:45 PM
Is the title "fire Buzz" unreasonable? yes. Did it catch the attention of more people than "not a great first year"? Absolutely.
And read our posts. Trebby and myself have been some of the more collected people posting. The outbursts and ridiculous sarcasm by people too afraid to accept that other opinions exist are the ones who are unreasonable.
The "Fire Buzz" thing is pretty ridiculous. If you post something like that, you will get people jumping down your throat. You are more than entitled to your opinion though. And some people think that personally attacking you will make their opinions more credible and discount yours. That's life. So you can't take anything too seriously on this board. Some people think they are Gods because the number of posts even though so many people post "+100000000" which doesn't add anything but a number to their counter.
Good comeback. (I think that's my 2nd post - got to build up my credibility!) :)
Quote from: mviale on March 08, 2009, 06:03:05 PM
Fire Buzz - was a cute comment. Sort of like something my 3 year old would say.
Did your 3 year old sign on your computer and start the thread, How do we keep Buzz?
I agreed with your post up until you measured your knowledge of MU basketball with how many games you have been to.
I am not doubting your knowledge of MU basketball, but attending games isn't a good measure.
I don't go to games for multiple reasons...
1. Not an alum, harder to get tickets
2. Coach basketball, not much free time (although season is now over due to losing in Sectional Semi-Finals)
3. Money Issues
Does this make me less credible of a source for MU basketball because I can't attend games?
Just playing devil's advocate.
Quote from: skianth16 on March 08, 2009, 06:29:32 PM
The point of message boards is not so that everyone can repeat each other. It's to have a place for everyone's opinion to be heard. It's impossible to convince some people that they are not in fact the smartest person on here and that other opinions are just as valid
Some people's opinions aren't "just as valid." You sound like the stereotypical frat boy BUAD major that sits in his required philosophy course, spouts out some nonsense theory, then defends himself with, "hey, that's just my opinion bro."
See, you both don't seem to understand that some opinions are in fact objectively better than others. An opinion based on a large amount of factual evidence is better than one that is not. Some opinions follow sound logic and some do not. Some opinions come from people with some sort of expertise on a given subject and some don't.
You're right, this is a place where everyone can have their opinion heard. However, this is also a place where you should be prepared to defend that opinion because others will often disagree with you and in some cases present a very convincing argument against you.
You will also get called names by people you don't know, so it helps to have a sense of humor, some wit, and thick skin.
What's with the shot at BUAD majors?
Rawdog is dead on in his post. It's a lot easier to hear something from a familar face than some new guy who just arrived. But to say people with low post counts have worthless opinions is dumb. Everyone has to start somewhere.
I have over 2000 posts I believe and 200 are probably a mixture of videos, game predictions, and subtle jabs at robmufan. That proves that post count doesn't equal knowledge of basketball. A majority of the board probably has a far greater knowledge of Marquette basketball than me seeing as I never saw a Marquette game before 2002.
EDIT: I knew nothing of Marquette basketball before 2002.
Quote from: MilWarrior on March 09, 2009, 01:47:40 AM
What's with the shot at BUAD majors?
Hopefully a grad from another school living in Milwaukee, otherwise thats pretty lame...
Quote from: mu-rara on March 09, 2009, 06:45:51 AM
Yeah....
ahhh broski it looks like someone has a thin skin.
Quote from: skianth16 on March 07, 2009, 09:46:13 PM
I only have like 45 posts on here, but I have been to just as many games, if not more, than other people on here, and I know just as much about MU basketball as anyone else.
I did not spend much time in the fire buzz thread...becuase with a subject line like that, it was definitely going to be a calm and rational discussion. That being said, anyone who claims they 'know just as much about MU basketball as anyone else' is a yahoo in my book.
You have a dissenting opinion? Fine by me, I like those...but let your conversations show us how much you know about MU bball, not egotistical posts like the above. Posts like that might lead to you losing some credibility with other posters no matter what your post count is.
Quote from: Tmreddevil on March 10, 2009, 01:02:33 PM
I did not spend much time in the fire buzz thread...becuase with a subject line like that, it was definitely going to be a calm and rational discussion. That being said, anyone who claims they 'know just as much about MU basketball as anyone else' is a yahoo in my book.
You have a dissenting opinion? Fine by me, I like those...but let your conversations show us how much you know about MU bball, not egotistical posts like the above. Posts like that might lead to you losing some credibility with other posters no matter what your post count is.
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Quote from: MUSF on March 08, 2009, 11:34:42 PM
Some people's opinions aren't "just as valid." You sound like the stereotypical frat boy BUAD major that sits in his required philosophy course, spouts out some nonsense theory, then defends himself with, "hey, that's just my opinion bro."
+1
Seen more of these guys than I can count. Don't get me wrong, I'm friends with business majors (roommates actually) and this is definitely a stereotype, but it was not pulled out of thin air.
But you forgot the part about how they won't stop talking about their new job and amazing $40,000 salary for the next 2 years after graduation (and continually ask you what you make). And how accounting 30 was soooooo hard and they wish they were in any other college so they could have a good GPA.
Slightly related question....what is with the stars and rank under everyone's name? Is that just based on number of posts? Seems a little silly.
let's talk basketball not someones credibility. this a free and open forum last time i checked. while the jury is way out, the trend of not using any bench and getting these guys experience reeks of a inexperienced coach to me. he wore his team out. they were gassing at the end of the season they went 3-6 from feb through march
Quote from: ErickJD08 on March 08, 2009, 06:50:39 PM
The "Fire Buzz" thing is pretty ridiculous. If you post something like that, you will get people jumping down your throat. You are more than entitled to your opinion though. And some people think that personally attacking you will make their opinions more credible and discount yours. That's life. So you can't take anything too seriously on this board. Some people think they are Gods because the number of posts even though so many people post "+100000000" which doesn't add anything but a number to their counter.
+100000000!!! Sorry just trying to boost my counter to bolster my blistering 0.141 posts per day average. Also, in some people's eyes I might seem 1/123 smarter. [Of course, others might think I am a smart a$$ who wasted their time.] ;D
and puerile :D
It doesn't particularly matter how many posts/stars under your name...we all started at zero.
What ruins your "credibility" (in quotes because that really isn't the proper term, but it's what everybody else is referring to) is the fact that after a couple tough losses, you're calling for a coach to be fired who has us at 23-8, and 5th in the toughest conference in the country, and is dealing with a depleted roster (which he inherited) with no big man, bench, or starting All Conf. PG. Very level headed, and mature...so excuse the rest of us for skewering you when you make ridiculous posts such "Fire Buzz Williams."
Quote from: lab_warrior on March 10, 2009, 04:48:27 PM
It doesn't particularly matter how many posts/stars under your name...we all started at zero.
What ruins your "credibility" (in quotes because that really isn't the proper term, but it's what everybody else is referring to) is the fact that after a couple tough losses, you're calling for a coach to be fired who has us at 23-8, and 5th in the toughest conference in the country, and is dealing with a depleted roster (which he inherited) with no big man, bench, or starting All Conf. PG. Very level headed, and mature...so excuse the rest of us for skewering you when you make ridiculous posts such "Fire Buzz Williams."
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