What the F*ck?!?
I'd almost say that shook our guys up a bit...
One of the stranger things I've seen at any Marquette game I've watched. Thankfully he didn't seem to have harming somebody as his first thought, as he certainly seemed to get close enough.
Just a terrible job by security. To the hell with winning, lets just get out of this mess without getting injured.
that was the biggest over reaction I have ever seen. It was a clean foul. Xavier was out of control as he went to the locker room. Look at the replay, he took three steps.
Coach Davis needed to step in a bit more.
I was under the impression that fans going on the court or throwing things on the court was a technical foul on the home team. No?
I thought it was great how Xavier had a hissy hit when his "Homie" was thrown out great stuff. Also great how buzz just came and grabbed fulce
i thought it was suppose to be a technical foul too ?-(
Quote from: notkirkcameron on January 17, 2009, 09:42:25 PM
I was under the impression that fans going on the court or throwing things on the court was a technical foul on the home team. No?
I think they'll usually have the PA announcer give a warning before they assess a technical for fans throwing things on the court. I'm not sure there's anything in the rulebook addressing fans who want to have a face-to-face chat with a ref.
Bob Valvano said the fan was a relative of Jeff Xavier.
Call it a "C-USA moment."
When Xavier sees the replay of the foul, he will be embarassed to hell.
wow, what an overreaction! Most guys go to the bench, take a few stitches, butterfly it up and go back in! I guess at Manhattan College they didn't get fouled.
It was absolutely clean on Fulce's part. It actually looked like Xavier ran into Fulce's arm/elbow. He had his arms straight up. Was glad to see Fulce out there and getting some needed points from the bench
I guess the PC fans don't know either: http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=425&f=1323&t=3791570
I liked how the refs completely bitched out after that and called every play for Provi. Scared of the dude's wrath I guess.
Here's a good one from a PC fan. Made me chuckle.
"Connfriar wrote: I was hoping the guy was coming out to shoot the free throws for McDermott..."
I can't believe there was not a technical on that play!! WTF?!?!
BTW... call it overreaction on my part, but if I was Buzz, I would have pulled the players off the court. That was completely inexcusable by security and just imagine if that guy was armed and went after one of our players?
Glad we pulled it out but that was a effed up scene.
Agreed LastWarrior. I frankly would have threatened to leave if it wasn't called a T. You can't have that at a sports event. It's just not acceptable under any circumstances. Period.
The fact the guy was standing in the lane for that long is very bad. First one on scene was a small female, looked like an assistant PU trainer, then a rent-a-cop security guard in a gray tee shirt. Not one police officer running to the court. There will definitely be an after action report/review and heads will roll at the Donut Center.
QuoteI can't believe there was not a technical on that play!! WTF?!?!
+1 How is that not a T on their bench? Fans can't throw anything on the court, etc. Totally F'd up. Plus the fact that they showed it like 9 times during the course of the game. Rarely do they give losers like that any air time (ala the NFL who refuses to show drunk d-bags that get on the field).
I hope the ED @ PU is good, cause them girlz is U.G.L.Y. They look like they start fights @ hockey games. Reminds me of the top row @ the ol Chicago Stadium for Blackhawk games.
Quote from: LastWarrior on January 17, 2009, 10:28:21 PM
... but if I was Buzz, I would have pulled the players off the court.
I thought he did run out on the court and grab his players.. Joe especially.
Quote from: wade_favre on January 17, 2009, 10:47:14 PM
I thought he did run out on the court and grab his players.. Joe especially.
He did. Everybody walked away except McNeal who stood there dumbfounded by what was going on.
It was that guy's brother...from ESPN..Lawrence Lepore, the executive director of the Dunkin' Donuts Center, said Jonathan Xavier -- Jeff's brother -- came down from the stands and jumped over the Providence bench to get onto the court. Security hustled him off, and he left without much of a fight, waiting peacefully under the stands with a guard while police were summoned.
Jonathan Xavier was taken to the Providence police station and will be charged with disorderly conduct, Lepore said.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=290172507
Thye could have called a technical on Buzz for coming on the court also. Maybe the refs did the best thing by not calling anything.
I didn't watch the game (had a game of my own... my girls won)... would love to see video of this, do we have it?
if talltitan doesn't have it I can put the video up tomorrow
No T!?!? Between the fan and the Providence player screaming f bombs at the ref?
I'll have video up.
CBS Sports says it was Xavier's brother.
I just got home and didn't see any of the game so I had to read about it. What exactly happened?
Makes the DD staff and the Xavier brothers look incredibly foolish.
How did no one on the Providence bench try to stop him?
They just moved aside for him to get through.
You have to be effing kidding me, bilsu?!?!? ?-( Buzz came out to protect his players after an unauthorized person came onto the court. That should have been a T on Providence and nothing on MU. I still can't believe that happened. Ridiculous.
Quote from: bilsu on January 17, 2009, 11:15:56 PM
Thye could have called a technical on Buzz for coming on the court also. Maybe the refs did the best thing by not calling anything.
While Buzz could have technically been assessed with a technical foul for going that far out onto the court, it would have been a tech well deserved. As Buzz said after the game, his #1 priority was and is to keep his players safe. If it means getting a tech to get his awestruck players away from a crazy fan that could possibly be out to harm our players, so be it.
Take it from a guy who is from the Detroit area, no one wants a Pistons-Pacers remake. That event was an embarrassment for both sides.
Quote from: Mayor McCheese on January 17, 2009, 11:16:53 PM
I didn't watch the game (had a game of my own... my girls won)... would love to see video of this, do we have it?
Here's the YouTube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv4eguhhL0o&fea%20ture=channel_page
Agreed on all accounts already stated; unintentional and gross over-reaction by both Xaviers.
It was Fulce's left hand that scratched him and you'll notice Fulce picking at his fingers at the 2:26 mark of this clip, as if to clean out any gunk.
Local Detroit TV news just featured the incident on its morning broadcast. We're famous?!
One other question .. Fulce was playing decently, Buzz yanked him with his 4 PFs, but he never got back in.
One wonders if Buzz decided NOT to put him back in for the final 15 because of security concerns.
In this mornings Urinal-Sentinel Buzz is quoted as telling the refs he'd pull his team off the court and the hell with the game. This is dangerous.
Why didn't he get arrested and get kick out of the place. If I do that at the BC I would get arrested and kick out!!
He DID get booted out and given a ticket (arrested?) for disorderly conduct.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on January 18, 2009, 08:04:17 AM
One other question .. Fulce was playing decently, Buzz yanked him with his 4 PFs, but he never got back in.
One wonders if Buzz decided NOT to put him back in for the final 15 because of security concerns.
Am I the only one who thought that Fulce played poorly? He was awful on defense. His rotations were bad, and he was beat off the bounce a number of times. He scored a few buckets and brought some energy, but he was a liability on defense. Is it a coincidence that MU made its run once he was off the court? Possibly, but it seems that PC could not match up with MU once it went really small. In a game where everyone else forgot how to defend, I don't see how you can keep Fulce on the court as it was making it way too easy for PC to score.
As for the clown on the court, PC should be embarrassed by what happened.
Although security was inexcusably slow in getting to the fan, he was taken to Providence police headquarters and was arrested for disorderly conduct. People on the PC blog are embarrassed and are saying so.
I thought Fulce deserves higher marks than many are giving him. Remember, McDermott was killing us inside (17 rebs) and neither Hazel or Burke could contain him. Fulce's "D" has a way to go, was playing off too far and was late in getting out on swithces, but he provided some scoring, made PC guard him and got some rebs. Not bad for a guy who missed as much time as he did.
As for any other negatives, to come back from 13 down on the road in the BEast....well, you gotta' just enjoy the ride people! Buzz was handed the keys to a Ferrari, and he's driving it beautifully, regardless of who built it!
Quote from: Pago Warrior on January 18, 2009, 06:14:13 AM
Agreed on all accounts already stated; unintentional and gross over-reaction by both Xaviers.
Actually, It looked to me like Jeff Xavier was upset and yelling at his family for what his brother did, not yelling a Fulce. I could be wrong of course.
Did you guys see in the replay, it looks like Xavier's brother called a timeout as he was walking on the court...absolutely hilarious...
I still say he was liquored up or something.
After a night of thinking about it,
Providence was up at that point, maybe he thought it was the appropriate time to storm the court. And he was making the time out gesture to ask the refs if this was a bad time!
I also thought they should have called T, but in watching the replay numerous times I noticed he was clearly signalling for a timeout after he got over the Providence bench. So maybe the refs thought they could not call a T without honoring his request for a timeout. ;D
(http://a.espncdn.com/media/apphoto/9aa0b45f-39dd-4d9b-8541-bac71fa6442c.jpg)
I'll bet once he was released he was off to the corner store for some 40's and blunts.
Who'd ever think a guy with a neck tattoo would rush the court?
You sure this cat is Xavier's brother? Sure looks like EAT to me.
Quote from: ToddPacker on January 18, 2009, 09:19:32 AM
Am I the only one who thought that Fulce played poorly? He was awful on defense. His rotations were bad, and he was beat off the bounce a number of times.
I'm guessing he was told to play the man and not the ball...he followed his assignment all over the court. He also contributed to one of the oddest moments in MU history.
Do you think that is real mink around his hood... man is he such a badass...
btw I hate those coats. I never thought being a player and a badass meant having fur around the hood of your puffy coat. Yup your gangster.
And onto the play, anyone think Xavier traveled to begin with... I do. He takes 3 steps
Dude should have been eating hardwood. Set an example. Where's the NYPD when you need em?
Announced today:
PROVIDENCE, R.I. (AP) -- Providence College will beef up security at its men's basketball games after the brother of a player walked onto the court to confront a referee last weekend.
The college said Wednesday that uniformed Providence police officers will be positioned near team benches during games at the Dunkin' Donuts Center. More security guards also will be used.
The announcement came four days after Jonathan Xavier, the brother of Providence guard Jeff Xavier, came onto the court during the second half of Saturday's game against Marquette. He was upset no foul was called after his brother was scraped in the face.
Providence athletic director Bob Driscoll said the college was disappointed and embarrassed by the incident. Marquette won the game 91-82.
the beef up in security consisted of adding one additional police officer and two additional security personnel. no incidents were reported.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3849430 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3849430)
Didn't see this posted yet. Not suprising at all, still an interesting read though.
Another overreaction all they had to to do is more thoroughly vet player relatives.
From today's Providence Journal, Jonathan Xavier will be arraigned next Tuesday after being charged with one count of disorderly conduct. Xavier is on probation for a drug conviction.
Per Bob Driscoll, PC AD, " We were disappointed and embarrassed about the situation that occurred when the fan entered the court during our men's basketball game versus Marquette on Saturday."
"The safety of the student-athletes, coaches, officials and fans is a top priority for us."
Quote from: ATWizJr on January 22, 2009, 08:54:57 AM
From today's Providence Journal, Jonathan Xavier will be arraigned next Tuesday after being charged with one count of disorderly conduct. Xavier is on probation for a drug conviction.
What he did was a low class move, but that violation could put his ass in the clink. That's a steep price to pay for walking onto the court.