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Title: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: classof70 on December 29, 2008, 04:18:44 PM
Home  in Lake Geneva for couple days for Xmas and went into Milwaukee for Real Chili and the game Sunday.  What's being built at 13th and Wisconsin?  In the 60's there was a great culinary institution on that corner.  As to the game, I was surprised at the crowd.  Pretty good showing for opponent and time of year.
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: MUfan12 on December 29, 2008, 04:23:57 PM
Zilber Hall- New Student Services bldg.

http://www.marquette.edu/architect/SSbldg_rendering.shtml
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: MUAlum99 on December 29, 2008, 04:24:43 PM
Can't remember the name of the building but its going to be the "one stop shop" for students.  Finanacial Aid, Admissions, Registrar, etc will all be housed there.
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: bs4173 on December 29, 2008, 05:00:50 PM
oh, and it's ahead of schedule; apparently it'll be done by Fall 2009
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: Muhoops85 on December 29, 2008, 05:02:32 PM
Was that where Grebe's and the old bookstore used to be located?
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: mviale on December 29, 2008, 06:03:38 PM
Quote from: Muhoops85 on December 29, 2008, 05:02:32 PM
Was that where Grebe's and the old bookstore used to be located?
Grebe's = home of the $1 ham and cheese sandwich.  Those things saved me
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: reinko on December 29, 2008, 06:06:01 PM
Was just back on campus today for the first time in a few, I am a big fan of the new Sweeney's Book Store location in the old "China Garden" restaurant.

Well played Sweeney.
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: Chili on December 29, 2008, 07:57:03 PM
Quote from: reinko on December 29, 2008, 06:06:01 PM
Was just back on campus today for the first time in a few, I am a big fan of the new Sweeney's Book Store location in the old "China Garden" restaurant.

Well played Sweeney.

China Garden? Pft. Super China!
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: classof70 on December 29, 2008, 08:24:04 PM
Grebe's was further east at 12th.  Dal's is the answer to this puzzle.  Frankly, they should have built a shrine! ::)
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: ecompt on December 29, 2008, 08:48:52 PM
Dal's was the first place I visited the Friday night I came to MU for Freshman Orientation. Next to it was the old Abbot Crest Hotel.
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: thanooj on December 29, 2008, 08:52:19 PM

"China Garden? Pft. Super China!"

And at night the "S" was burned out and it was "uper China".  Very Nice. 
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: classof70 on December 29, 2008, 09:20:47 PM
Quote from: ecompt on December 29, 2008, 08:48:52 PM
Dal's was the first place I visited the Friday night I came to MU for Freshman Orientation. Next to it was the old Abbot Crest Hotel.

I'd leave Schroeder late at night, early in the morning  and get a California burger (or two) at Dal's.  I loved the place; it was the best after Real.  My kids, none of whom went to MU, all know exactly where it was.  They cringe when we drive buy :P
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: 4everwarriors on December 29, 2008, 09:57:04 PM
Dal's had the best vanilla ice cream too. Anyone remember the walkways that used to exist under Wisconsin Ave.?
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: ecompt on December 29, 2008, 10:53:46 PM
ah, the California burgers from Dal's. Lettuce, tomato, mayo...delicious.
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: mviale on December 29, 2008, 10:57:15 PM
What year was Dal's?
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: Tommy Brice for Coach on December 30, 2008, 01:41:06 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 29, 2008, 09:57:04 PM
Dal's had the best vanilla ice cream too. Anyone remember the walkways that used to exist under Wisconsin Ave.?

There were walkways under Wisconsin Ave?!?! :o When was this?
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: classof70 on December 30, 2008, 08:10:13 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 29, 2008, 09:57:04 PM
Dal's had the best vanilla ice cream too. Anyone remember the walkways that used to exist under Wisconsin Ave.?

Yes, but you have to be pretty old for that one!! ;)
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: classof70 on December 30, 2008, 08:11:53 AM
Quote from: mviale on December 29, 2008, 10:57:15 PM
What year was Dal's?


It was there until the early 70's.  I graduated in '70 and left Milwaukee in '73, I think it was still there in '73.
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: 4everwarriors on December 30, 2008, 08:15:52 AM
Yep, there were at least two tunnels around 11th and 13th whereby you could cross Wisconsin Ave. They were closed up around 1970.
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: Avenue Commons on December 30, 2008, 08:24:39 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 30, 2008, 08:15:52 AM
Yep, there were at least two tunnels around 11th and 13th whereby you could cross Wisconsin Ave. They were closed up around 1970.

Wouldn't be an issue if Avenue Commons was built!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: ecompt on December 30, 2008, 10:21:48 AM
You know how many New York kids thought those were subway entrances when they first saw them? 
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: war1980rior on December 30, 2008, 10:17:56 PM
What is Avenue Commons?  (sorry, been a while since I've been on campus!)
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: mu72warrior on January 01, 2009, 12:06:44 PM
Dal's was there in '72, great greasy burgers!
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: wildbill sb on January 01, 2009, 01:01:59 PM
Whoa there, youngsters.  Not only was there a tunnel under Wisconsin Avenue at 13th Street, there was Milt's Hamburgers.  Talk about grease!
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: Badgerhater on January 01, 2009, 02:29:51 PM
Avenue Commons was an MU public relations disaster in the mid 1990s where the university wanted to close WI AVE through campus.   They were rather arrogant toward the city and once the hospital said it would interrupt ambulance service, then it was dead in the water.  Generated lots of hard feelings from the city toward MU.
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: rugbydrummer on January 02, 2009, 12:34:20 AM
Quote from: Badgerhater on January 01, 2009, 02:29:51 PM
Avenue Commons was an MU public relations disaster in the mid 1990s where the university wanted to close WI AVE through campus.   They were rather arrogant toward the city and once the hospital said it would interrupt ambulance service, then it was dead in the water.  Generated lots of hard feelings from the city toward MU.


although nowadays saying WI AVE. is a "fast/direct" thoroughfare is a joke!  Anyone with two neurons firing does well to take clybourn/MI ave or wells depending on East/West velocity.  I agree closing down WI ave. would mess up the bus routes for sure, though. 
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: Badgerhater on January 02, 2009, 10:39:09 AM
I like how they landscaped WI AVE and marked the campus entrances with columns.....but I am glad they did it after I went there.  One can no longer jaywalk.

The next crap building to go near campus will be the one that Super China used to be in.
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: bs4173 on January 02, 2009, 07:32:43 PM
Quote from: Badgerhater on January 02, 2009, 10:39:09 AM
I like how they landscaped WI AVE and marked the campus entrances with columns.....but I am glad they did it after I went there.  One can no longer jaywalk.

The next crap building to go near campus will be the one that Super China used to be in.

Where did Super China used to be?
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: MUsoxfan on January 02, 2009, 08:03:15 PM
13th/Wells
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: Brewtown Andy on January 03, 2009, 01:41:23 PM
Quote from: classof70 on December 29, 2008, 08:24:04 PM
Grebe's was further east at 12th.  Dal's is the answer to this puzzle.  Frankly, they should have built a shrine! ::)
Zilber Hall is going to run the entire length of the 1200 block of Wisconsin, so it is occupying the area that Grebe's used to be in.
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: rugbydrummer on January 03, 2009, 06:28:06 PM
Quote from: Badgerhater on January 02, 2009, 10:39:09 AM
I like how they landscaped WI AVE and marked the campus entrances with columns.....but I am glad they did it after I went there.  One can no longer jaywalk.

The next crap building to go near campus will be the one that Super China used to be in.

Sure you can, you just have to be a good steeplechaser :)
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: MARQKC on January 03, 2009, 11:04:12 PM
Quote from: wildbill sb on January 01, 2009, 01:01:59 PM
Whoa there, youngsters.  Not only was there a tunnel under Wisconsin Avenue at 13th Street, there was Milt's Hamburgers.  Talk about grease!

Yes, indeed. Check the photo at the bottom of the page from the 1968 Hilltop:

http://digitalmarquette.cdmhost.com/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/p4007hilltop&CISOPTR=44381&REC=14

Although, I remember it as Dal's, too.
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: classof70 on January 04, 2009, 08:20:08 AM
Quote from: MARQKC on January 03, 2009, 11:04:12 PM
Yes, indeed. Check the photo at the bottom of the page from the 1968 Hilltop:

http://digitalmarquette.cdmhost.com/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/p4007hilltop&CISOPTR=44381&REC=14

Although, I remember it as Dal's, too.

Interesting to look at the pictures in the year book. I don't remember, or more accurately forgot about the median and street lights on Wisconsin Avenues.  I think it was known both as Milt's and Dal's, though I too remember it as Dal's.  I looked through the pictures looking for familiar faces.  I recognize one as  a professor of law at St. Louis University and I another who is now a professor at LaSalle. 
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: ecompt on January 04, 2009, 09:07:03 AM
Funny. I remember it as Dal's when I arrived in Milwaukee in September of 1968.
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: Nukem2 on January 04, 2009, 09:46:15 AM
Quote from: MARQKC on January 03, 2009, 11:04:12 PM
Yes, indeed. Check the photo at the bottom of the page from the 1968 Hilltop:

http://digitalmarquette.cdmhost.com/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/p4007hilltop&CISOPTR=44381&REC=14

Although, I remember it as Dal's, too.
Hey, I'm a '68 grad and you can see my picture among the seniors...!  ;D
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: romey on January 04, 2009, 12:46:01 PM
hey, when I click on that link, it only takes me to the cover of the yearbook. what page has the picture everyone is referring to?
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: jmayer1 on January 04, 2009, 05:59:43 PM
Quote from: romey on January 04, 2009, 12:46:01 PM
hey, when I click on that link, it only takes me to the cover of the yearbook. what page has the picture everyone is referring to?


click the items on the left side of the page to get to the different sections of the yearbook
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: Avenue Commons on January 19, 2009, 03:09:21 PM
Quote from: Badgerhater on January 01, 2009, 02:29:51 PM
Avenue Commons was an MU public relations disaster in the mid 1990s where the university wanted to close WI AVE through campus.   They were rather arrogant toward the city and once the hospital said it would interrupt ambulance service, then it was dead in the water.  Generated lots of hard feelings from the city toward MU.

Not quite. It was one vote in the Milwaukee city council from getting passed and the alderman who held the tie breaking vote (name escapes me but ironically an MU grad) asked his wife what to do and she said to vote against it. And that's what killed it. But if the wife gave a different answer, then it would have been built.

You are right that it did generate some hard feelings from locals. But a lot of those people hate the "rich kids at Marquette" anyways.

I happen to believe that it would have been good for MU and added cohesion to campus. Campus looks amazing now and it is a lot better than it was 15 years ago when Avenue Commons was proposed, but I still think it would have been great. Hence my screen name.
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: Warrior of Law on January 19, 2009, 03:22:58 PM
Actually, the 9-8 vote was for the scaled down version of Avenue Commons.  The scaled-down version was a narrower road, with no median.  The alderman you're thinking of who voted against the proposal was Robert Anderson.  Anderson was old and crazy.  I actually thought that the original version was pretty interesting and I supported the project.  The scaled down version would have been a traffic boondoogle.  The current situation is far better than the losing proposal.
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: Avenue Commons on January 19, 2009, 05:21:15 PM
Quote from: Warrior of Law on January 19, 2009, 03:22:58 PM
Actually, the 9-8 vote was for the scaled down version of Avenue Commons.  The scaled-down version was a narrower road, with no median.  The alderman you're thinking of who voted against the proposal was Robert Anderson.  Anderson was old and crazy.  I actually thought that the original version was pretty interesting and I supported the project.  The scaled down version would have been a traffic boondoogle.  The current situation is far better than the losing proposal.

I think you're right. I forgot about the compromised scaled down version. I like the current set up better than the scaled down version. However, I liked the version that created a unified campus the most. It would have been great.
Title: Re: What's going up at 13th and Wisconsin?
Post by: 77ncaachamps on January 19, 2009, 07:00:04 PM
Check out page 125...groovy and a bit odd, too!

BTW, which page was Dal's on?
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