Oso planning to go pro
Future 1st round pick Nassir Little didn't start a collegiate game and averaged less than 20 mpg. NBA drafts on potential, starting in college is a "what can you do for me now" business. I know what the statistics and our numbers regarding transfers are, but Jr Jamal has been behind Soph BB all year, and there haven't been any rumors about him going anywhere. When healthy GE is either 1st or 2nd off the bench (depending on how fast Theo picks up his first 2 fouls). Writing them off as future transfers is foolish, especially when one of the players "running them off" is still an undecided recruit.
I have to imagine we lose Cain and/or Elliott in that instance. Can't imagine they'd be thrilled being bench players to two freshmen.
I'll stick with my opinion on Gold. He'll be in foul trouble within the first eight minutes.
My point was, I don't think that Mane and Garcia would come in and start over a Senior and a 4th year Junior from day 1, and unless you're a projected lottery you shouldn't expect to. Depending on what happens with our lat two open scholarships (i.e. grad transfers), I would bet the starting 5 come November is; Koby, Greg, Jamal, Bailey, and Theo.
I would bet that is not our starting lineup from day 1.
Wojo has started freshmen when they are clearly better than the more seasoned player. Markus Howard started over Duane Wilson. Joey Hauser started over Jamal last year.At best Jamal Cain has been inconsistent since he has arrived at MU. Elliott has been injury prone and doesn't exactly light it up offensively. Having Garcia and Mane start over them is not outside the realm of possibilities by any stretch.
Future All-American over someone who wasn't the coach's recruit and a red-shirt Freshman over a Sophomore is different than a pair of Freshman over a Senior and a red-shirt Junior.
A senior who has started a total of five games and never played more than 20 mpg over the course of a season not to mention playing a different position, and a redshirt junior who has missed significant parts of his career due to injury.
1,180 (and counting) more collegiate minutes than Garcia, and unless Greg's injuries cause long term deficiencies (i.e. Fulce's knees, or Teve's back) they will have 0 impact on his starting or not next November.
And I think the only grad transfer we try to get is a back up to Theo. No way we add two. Maybe a traditional transfer at guard though.Point: Koby, SymirGuard: Mane, Elliott, AkannoForwards: Garcia, Bailey, Lewis, Cain, OsaPost: Theo, Grad Transfer
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.
Playing more minutes doesn't necessarily make you a better player.
Could use a grad transfer role player PG as well. Pretty thin at the point - I like Symir, but I don't think Koby is a true point at all. I could see Cain looking at that depth at the forward spot and not loving his fit. But not sure he's going to want to sit 1 to play 1. I hope Wojo is able to land a legit traditional transfer as well. I hate burning scholarships.
It does make you a more experienced player though, which many times is more important. I'm not disputing straight up who has more talent, just pointing out that (everywhere not just at MU) new players have an acclimatization period. Remember when everyone was writing off Jayce back in November, and now he is having significant impact.
Koby, Symir & Elliott are enough PG depth.
Koby has looked very good at the point the last 2 games.
Exactly. It's pretty obvious that Wojo doesn't necessarily want a "true PG" anyway.
I won't predict who will start -- especially if one of the subjects we're all talkin' about is a guy who might never step foot on the Marquette campus again. Plus, who starts isn't all that important.I fully expect Garcia to get plenty of minutes next season, as will Mane if he joins our Warriors. If Lewis is as tough as advertised, we have a need for that, too. I mean, even Cain averaged 17 mpg as a freshman, and Joey averaged 29, so it's not crazy to think Wojo will give these highly regarded athletes 20 or more.
Future All-American over someone who wasn't the coach's recruit and a red-shirt Freshman over a Sophomore is different than a pair of Freshman over a Senior and a red-shirt Junior.I'm delighted that Garcia is on-board, and a really hope we get Mane, but this kind of over-hyping of players that 1.) aren't even on campus yet, and 2.) may not even go here, usually leads to disappointment. Garcia and Mane have combined to play 0 collegiate minutes, personally I'd rather set my expectations low (no matter how highly their currently ranked) and be pleasantly surprised, rather then state that they will "start and play max minutes" and be disappointed. I would hope I don't have to remind people of the last time a Freshman stretch 4 started and played big minutes.