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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Stronghold on March 10, 2015, 11:33:42 AM
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Steve Taylor
JaJuan Johnson
Luke Fischer
Duane Wilson
Wally Ellenson
Sandy Cohen
Matt Heldt
Henry Ellenson
Sacar Anim
Haanif Cheatham
Traci Carter
Mache and Mache?
Am I missing anyone? Will we actually have 10+ guys?? Also interesting to note that everyone except Steve Taylor could be here for atleast 2 years. Would be great to see all of these guys play together for the full 2 years.
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Great talent and great size!
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If Henry stays two years.
We are going to be elite in his second year
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Steve Taylor
JaJuan Johnson
Luke Fischer
Duane Wilson
Wally Ellenson
Sandy Cohen
Matt Heldt
Henry Ellenson
Sacar Anim
Haanif Cheatham
Traci Carter
Mache and Mache?
Am I missing anyone? Will we actually have 10+ guys?? Also interesting to note that everyone except Steve Taylor could be here for atleast 2 years. Would be great to see all of these guys play together for the full 2 years.
You have them all. Mark Miller just tweeted that he thinks they will look for "perhaps a transfer and a fifth year guy like Carlino."
That makes a lot of sense given that we only have one senior in 2016.
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You have them all. Mark Miller just tweeted that he thinks they will look for "perhaps a transfer and a fifth year guy like Carlino."
That makes a lot of sense given that we only have one senior in 2016.
Yup. I think a grad transfer is almost certain to be a target. Let's us full out this roster even more while still having a schollie for 16-17.
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A grad xfer, particularly if a PG, could actually make them a pretty decent team next year. If Fischer could add 10-15 lbs between now and then, even better.
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I like that roster and, like many have said, I'll like it even more if we add an experienced PG (and/or rebounder) to the mix.
Not trying to be a wise-arse with this question but seriously asking it for those who seem to know this kind of stuff: Is there anything to the Scoop speculation that JJJ would be outta here after this year? That talk seems to have died down in recent days but it was a big part of a few other threads.
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If Henry stays two years.
We are going to be elite in his second year
Assuming all these guys pan out like they're supposed to, I wholeheartedly agree. Will be scary good in 2016-2017. Nice work.
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Missing Cam Marotta.
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A grad xfer, particularly if a PG, could actually make them a pretty decent team next year. If Fischereveryone could add 10-15 lbs between now and then, even better.
Fixed. Eh, Steve's probably ok.
Missing Cam Marotta.
The missing piece.
From an eight man team to as many as 16 if all the walk-ons are on the roster. The Office Max in Grand Ave could have been saved with all the extra folding chairs they're going to need!
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Paging Rocky...
THE SCHOLARSHIP TABLE NEEDS AN UPDATE!
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=8
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Need a grad transfer PG and a rebounding banger who hustles and plays great D.
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We have 2 schollies left for 2015-2016. What I think our needs are going forward:
1. Grad transfer/juco PG who can start next season
2. Grad transfer/juco SF who can start next season, preferably a beast on the boards
3. Traditional transfer PF who can replace Steve and potentially Henry should he go pro
4. Traditional transfer, best available player
5. Freshman PF
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Need a grad transfer PG and a rebounding banger who hustles and plays great D.
I think we'll get one for next year, but not both.
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I think we'll get one for next year, but not both.
If correct, I hope it's a PG. Not disrespecting Mr. Carter but I'd rather not turn the team over to a freshmen right away with other new players we're trying to work into the mix.
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If correct, I hope it's a PG. Not disrespecting Mr. Carter but I'd rather not turn the team over to a freshmen right away with other new players we're trying to work into the mix.
Ryan Arcidiacono is one guy who did pretty well as a freshman starter in the Big East. I know that there are others. So, maybe he'll be able to handle it. It seems that having the opportunity to run the show from day one was a big part of MU's allure for Traci.
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MU moved up in ESPN rankings to no. 9.
http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/classrankings
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Only one guy graduates. Unless we can get a quality PG to add to the above, Wojo should probably bank the last two schollies, IMO. Taylor is the only guy that graduates, so it would be better to have 3 schollies for the next class.
If he can add 3 quality recruits to that class, things will be looking rosey!
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MU moved up in ESPN rankings to no. 9.
http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/classrankings
And at #10.........Duke. I'd love to hear the next call with Coach K, (I'm sure he's going to be excited for and proud of Wojo).
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MU moved up in ESPN rankings to no. 9.
http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/classrankings
That's old. That was after Sacar committed. Carter should push us past Florida, Florida State, and maybe LSU
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Only one guy graduates. Unless we can get a quality PG to add to the above, Wojo should probably bank the last two schollies, IMO. Taylor is the only guy that graduates, so it would be better to have 3 schollies for the next class.
If he can add 3 quality recruits to that class, things will be looking rosey!
Never bank scholarships. Sign some prospects and if they don't work out and you can get someone better, cut them. Plus, you never know when transfers, injuries, etc will strike.
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had plus 1 earlier with Amin signing, currently changed to +3 within the past hour.
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Never bank scholarships. Sign some prospects and if they don't work out and you can get someone better, cut them. Plus, you never know when transfers, injuries, etc will strike.
Agree. No need to self-impose scholarship penalties on the program for failing to fill a roster. All we need is to start at 11 and have a transfer and two injuries and be back to eight available players.
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had plus 1 earlier with Amin signing, currently changed to +3 within the past hour.
Interesting, they have Traci Carter listed in the description but not in the commits section. Also, how does Florida's 4 four stars beat our 5 star and 4 four stars? This is why I don't use ESPN for recruiting rankings
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Will be interesting to see if Wojo goes back to the aggressive man defense next year. Anim and Carter can really guard. Cheatham has that capability, but will need to get reps in a team defensive concept. Gonna be fun to watch these guys develop as a class.
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Traci Carter – Life Center (Burlington, N.J.), – 2015Finding an unsigned point guard that can affect the game on the highest levels has been akin to finding Bigfoot this year. However, we located Carter at Hoop Hall Classic and tabbed him as the biggest point guard target left unsigned in the senior class. The 6-foot-1 guard dominated Life Center’s game on both ends of the floor versus Orangeville Prep en route to a 18 point 10 assist 7 rebound MVP performance. As a result schools like Connecticut, Louisville and North Carolina State have all been linked to his recruitment in the past week.
ontheradarhoops.com
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Never bank scholarships. Sign some prospects and if they don't work out and you can get someone better, cut them. Plus, you never know when transfers, injuries, etc will strike.
Exactly right. Two easy ways to go about this. First, add a grad transfer that gives you an experienced player for a year and an open scholarship the next. Second, add a transfer that sits out a year, but starts playing the same year the banked scholarship would be open with the advantage of practice and system experience.
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Ryan Arcidiacono is one guy who did pretty well as a freshman starter in the Big East. I know that there are others. So, maybe he'll be able to handle it. It seems that having the opportunity to run the show from day one was a big part of MU's allure for Traci.
I'm not opposed to Carter being the man from day one, but I'd rather not put my eggs all in that basket. No battle plan survives first contact with the enemy, so we should have an alternative and we currently don't have an alternative on the roster (Duane isn't a point at all IMHO)
We can recruit a veteran and if Traci turns out to be great then we've got extra depth if we need it. And playing time is earned at MU not on the recruiting trail
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I would love a graduate transfer and either a JUCO or another transfer (preferably one who is just finished his freshman year).
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I think it will be important that someone on this list, or else a Grad transfer/JUCO fills the role of spot up shooter in order to keep defenses honest while our bigs go to work down low. Duane has shown flashes but still very inconsistent shooting the ball. The same can be said for Sandy. Having a 3 point assassin that can hit at a 40% plus clip is crucial.
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I think it will be important that someone on this list, or else a Grad transfer/JUCO fills the role of spot up shooter in order to keep defenses honest while our bigs go to work down low. Duane has shown flashes but still very inconsistent shooting the ball. The same can be said for Sandy. Having a 3 point assassin that can hit at a 40% plus clip is crucial.
I like this. Even though I said earlier in this comment stream that another PG and a rebounder would be nice, the truth is that we desperately need more outside shooting. Wojo would like to run an attack that features multiple 3-point threats on the court at one time, and I don't blame him. Of course, I have heard that Henry is a legit 3-point threat, a la Bosh or Love or Dirk, so that would be great.
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I think we'll wait just a bit now. See who is available after teams are done. I'd be shocked if we added a 6th Frosh. I'll bet on a traditional transfer, perhaps 2. Be great is one new upperclassman was immediately eligible.
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I think we'll wait just a bit now. See who is available after teams are done. I'd be shocked if we added a 6th Frosh. I'll bet on a traditional transfer, perhaps 2. Be great is one new upperclassman was immediately eligible.
Only position where I could see a new frosh is at pf. If Henry ends up being a one and done we have no one to replace him. A freshmen pf is last on my wish list but I would be happy with a quality one
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Paging Rocky...
THE SCHOLARSHIP TABLE NEEDS AN UPDATE!
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=8
Looks perfectly up-to-date to me! ;D
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Looks perfectly up-to-date to me! ;D
WRONG!!!!!!!! Look very closely at this year. First guy to call out rocky's egregious error gets some kind of cool GIF from chick.
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The twins are missing?
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Cam Marotta?
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Looks perfectly up-to-date to me! ;D
huh - I must have been mistaken. Sorry about that, Rocky
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WRONG!!!!!!!! Look very closely at this year. First guy to call out rocky's egregious error gets some kind of cool GIF from chick.
It should list Gabe Levin because he is using a scholarship slot this year. Jameel McKay should also be listed in 2013-14, and Luke should be listed as a walk-on. (Cause he paid his way second semester last year.)
And the number below 2014-15 should be "1."
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What I find interesting about this group of incoming freshman, is they could fill all positions as starters. If (big if) Henry stays all 4 years, you could potentially see 5 senior starters:
1 - Traci Carter
2 - Sacar Anim
3 - Haanif Cheatham
4 - Henry Ellenson
5 - Matt Heldt
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silly season (coaching carousel, transfers) starts in about a week or so. at that point there will be hundreds of transfers and de-commitment, etc... i assume we will grab one/two of those who come open in that period which could mean eligible players for next year, or one that may have to sit. either way, a lot of good players are going to be open for transfer soon...
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Steve Taylor
JaJuan Johnson
Luke Fischer
Duane Wilson
Wally Ellenson
Sandy Cohen
Matt Heldt
Henry Ellenson
Sacar Anim
Haanif Cheatham
Traci Carter
Mache and Mache?
Am I missing anyone? Will we actually have 10+ guys?? Also interesting to note that everyone except Steve Taylor could be here for atleast 2 years. Would be great to see all of these guys play together for the full 2 years.
Not sure everyone on that list of yours is coming back next year, I'm really a badger fan?
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Not sure everyone on that list of yours is coming back next year, I'm really a badger fan?
We'll cross that bridge when we come to it, badger fan.
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We'll cross that bridge when we come to it, badger fan.
My "inside sources" at all 351 D1 basketball programs say there's a chance that an eligible player (or players) might not return.
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Looks perfectly up-to-date to me! ;D
I don't see no twins. 8-)
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Not sure everyone on that list of yours is coming back next year, I'm really a badger fan?
So who do you think will transfer?
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So who do you think will transfer?
Since Chicago Juan has stated that JJJ has told him personally that he is definitely transferring he would be the most likely. Almost no chance anyone else will.
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I don't see no twins. 8-)
You want twins, here you go.
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I don't see no twins. 8-)
Ding, ding, ding. Winner winner chicken dinner!
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It should list Gabe Levin because he is using a scholarship slot this year. Jameel McKay should also be listed in 2013-14, and Luke should be listed as a walk-on. (Cause he paid his way second semester last year.)
And the number below 2014-15 should be "1."
Uh Sultan. You went all weird and technical on me. I'm sure you're right but I'm just not that smart. :-)
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Cam Marotta?
Mark Marotta's son will be a preferred walk-on next season.
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Hey Lazar---How many stars are the twins? 5-star. Do they play the 1-2-3-4 or 5 spot?
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Ahh...the walk ons... (and ignoring me and Sultan's philosophical disagreements).
However....do we KNOW the twins are in for next year? I only know of Cam for sure.
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The twins are missing?
My apology Chip. I'm doing this from my phone and missed your immediate post. You are the big winner!
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Ahh...the walk ons... (and ignoring me and Sultan's philosophical disagreements).
However....do we KNOW the twins are in for next year? I only know of Cam for sure.
I'd say NO on the twins for next year at this point. Only Cam in the grey for now. And I wouldn't include that student who walked on for a week during Christmas. Not in charge but I'd say you have to dress to make the chart. But of course that's your call. Certainly getting playing time justifies inclusion.
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Ahh...the walk ons... (and ignoring me and Sultan's philosophical disagreements).
However....do we KNOW the twins are in for next year? I only know of Cam for sure.
Without looking at the scholarship table itself, wouldn't walk-ons be excluded from something titled "Scholarship Table?" They aren't, after all, on scholarship. If it were "Roster Table" then that makes sense. Just being a pain in the ass.
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I'd say NO on the twins for next year at this point. Only Cam in the grey for now. And I wouldn't include that student who walked on for a week during Christmas. Not in charge but I'd say you have to dress to make the chart. But of course that's your call. Certainly getting playing time justifies inclusion.
why no to the twins? Maybe they won't want the commitment, but these guys were managers for the woman's team before, so it's not like they're adverse to commitment. If they want to be a part of the team, why the hell not?
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I would love to get a JUCO PF just so we can redshirt Heldt. I think a season in the weight room could go miles with a guy like him.
The future is bright!
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why no to the twins? Maybe they won't want the commitment, but these guys were managers for the woman's team before, so it's not like they're adverse to commitment. If they want to be a part of the team, why the hell not?
Perhaps you misunderstood my point. I'm confident that Wojo will welcome them back. I'm simply saying that to include them now might be premature for purposes of the chart. Rocky's call.
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Without looking at the scholarship table itself, wouldn't walk-ons be excluded from something titled "Scholarship Table?" They aren't, after all, on scholarship. If it were "Roster Table" then that makes sense. Just being a pain in the ass.
Forever to be referred to as the little known 'Frozena rule'. :-)
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Hey Lazar---How many stars are the twins? 5-star. Do they play the 1-2-3-4 or 5 spot?
The spot they play is a letter, not a number and they can play multiple positions. Give them as many stars as you want.
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Perhaps you misunderstood my point. I'm confident that Wojo will welcome them back. I'm simply saying that to include them now might be premature for purposes of the chart. Rocky's call.
Gotcha...I misunderstood.
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Perhaps you misunderstood my point. I'm confident that Wojo will welcome them back. I'm simply saying that to include them now might be premature for purposes of the chart. Rocky's call.
I'm not so confident they'll be "welcomed" back - but they should be on this years chart. It seemed that Wojo was uncomfortable adding any walk-on's this year until he just didn't have enough bodies to practice with. Next year he shouldn't have a problem with having enough guys to play 5-on-5.
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I'm not so confident they'll be "welcomed" back - but they should be on this years chart. It seemed that Wojo was uncomfortable adding any walk-on's this year until he just didn't have enough bodies to practice with. Next year he shouldn't have a problem with having enough guys to play 5-on-5.
I sensed the same thing. I wonder if Marc felt like he was negotiating with Ted Thompson regarding next year. C'mon Wojo. How much?
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If we get a grad-transfer PG who's to say they couldn't start alongside Carter, like Carlino and Duane? And before someone else says it, yes I know Duane isn't a PG. Using them more for comparison's sake.