Author Topic: Tourney Brackets (Read 12083 times)

tower912 · « **on:** March 13, 2016, 05:08:34 PM »

First shocker...Sparty not a 1 seed? Cool. More ammo for Izzo.

MUBBau · « **Reply #1 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:10:22 PM »

Nova with a tough draw

Spaniel with a Short Tail · « **Reply #2 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:11:43 PM »

I smell Butler getting hosed.

Tugg Speedman · « **Reply #3 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:21:15 PM »

Unless I missed it, no BE team in the west. Does that mean Four bids for the conference? (Nova, X, SH and Prov). Butler hosed?

forgetful · « **Reply #4 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:21:46 PM »

My first thought was Vanderbilt has no business being in the tournament.

My second thought is they are over valuing the SEC, which may mean the BEAST gets screwed. Only two brackets left and we only have 1 BEAST team in.

tower912 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:22:04 PM »

Quote from: Heisenberg on March 13, 2016, 05:21:15 PM

Unless I missed it, no BE team in the west. Does that mean three bids for the conference? (Nova, SH and Prov). Butler hosed?

You don't have Xavier in?

forgetful · « **Reply #6 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:22:13 PM »

Quote from: Heisenberg on March 13, 2016, 05:21:15 PM

Unless I missed it, no BE team in the west. Does that mean three bids for the conference? (Nova, SH and Prov). Butler hosed?

Xavier?

DegenerateDish · « **Reply #7 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:22:25 PM »

Wis/Pitt first round. Xavier 2 seed, Seton Hall 6 seed.

Tugg Speedman · « **Reply #8 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:22:38 PM »

fixed above

DegenerateDish · « **Reply #9 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:23:16 PM »

Providence 9 seed vs USC in first round.

DegenerateDish · « **Reply #10 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:23:52 PM »

Seton Hall/Zags round 1.

forgetful · « **Reply #11 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:24:32 PM »

More thoughts.

UNI upsets Texas
UWGB upsets A&M

We get to see a 11 vs. 14 game.

edit: Let's throw in VCU over Oregon state to make the West a totally busted bracket.

GGGG · « **Reply #12 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:25:35 PM »

Butler is in too. Half the conference.

DegenerateDish · « **Reply #13 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:26:49 PM »

Can't believe Syracuse made it as a 7 seed.

DegenerateDish · « **Reply #14 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:27:26 PM »

Quote from: MUDish on March 13, 2016, 05:26:49 PM

Can't believe Syracuse made it as a 10 seed.

CountryRoads · « **Reply #15 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:28:03 PM »

This selection show is the worst. More is not always better.

SuddenSam · « **Reply #16 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:28:45 PM »

Xavier over Wiscy, fun

Sheriff · « **Reply #17 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:29:57 PM »

Selection show analysis paralysis

DegenerateDish · « **Reply #18 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:30:22 PM »

Thank god the bracket leaked online and stopped watching.

muguru · « **Reply #19 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:31:28 PM »

How are you guys finding these out before they are even unveiled?? I'm watching it and havent even started the last two brackets yet

GGGG · « **Reply #20 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:32:00 PM »

Quote from: muguru on March 13, 2016, 05:31:28 PM

How are you guys finding these out before they are even unveiled?? I'm watching it and havent even started the last two brackets yet

It's been leaked on twitter.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan · « **Reply #21 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:33:06 PM »

Not looking great for Butler unless they put 2 BE teams in both regions left.

Crazy there is a region without a Be team.

GGGG · « **Reply #22 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:34:02 PM »

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 13, 2016, 05:33:06 PM

Not looking great for Butler unless they put 2 BE teams in both regions left.

Crazy there is a region without a Be team.

Butler gets in.

Marcus92 · « **Reply #23 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:34:20 PM »

http://campussports.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/bracket.jpg

JWags85 · « **Reply #24 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:35:40 PM »

Quote from: MUDish on March 13, 2016, 05:27:26 PM

Thats horrible. 19-13, woof

Spaniel with a Short Tail · « **Reply #25 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:37:45 PM »

So who got hosed?

WarriorPride68 · « **Reply #26 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:39:45 PM »

Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on March 13, 2016, 05:37:45 PM

So who got hosed?

Idk if they got hosed, but I posted this in the NIT thread. SDSU missed with a #41 RPI. Nit bubble going to be very strong (MU is #110)

VegasWarrior77 · « **Reply #27 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:41:33 PM »

Twitter Bracket attached:

willie warrior · « **Reply #28 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:42:03 PM »

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 13, 2016, 05:25:35 PM

Butler is in too. Half the conference.

We must be in the other half.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan · « **Reply #29 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:44:20 PM »

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 13, 2016, 05:34:02 PM

Butler gets in.

Good

forgetful · « **Reply #30 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:46:12 PM »

I think this is the worst job the committee has ever done. Teams like:

Syracuse
Vanderbilt
Tulsa

Have no business being in the tournament. Teams like Monmouth/Valparaiso/San Diego St/St. Marys got screwed.

Norm · « **Reply #31 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:47:41 PM »

They way over ranked the ACC.

T-Bone · « **Reply #32 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:47:53 PM »

They said Seton Hall was the last team in. Did I hear that right?

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan · « **Reply #33 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:49:48 PM »

Quote from: T-Bone on March 13, 2016, 05:47:53 PM

They said Seton Hall was the last team in. Did I hear that right?

Yes. They're a 6 seed. And won the auto bid.

Frenns Liquor Depot · « **Reply #34 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:50:09 PM »

I like IU v KY with all the drama about the home and home going away

Skitch · « **Reply #35 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:53:16 PM »

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 13, 2016, 05:50:09 PM

I like IU v KY with all the drama about the home and home going away

Also Texas v Texas A&M

Frenns Liquor Depot · « **Reply #36 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:54:00 PM »

I am also liking the lineup in providence as I will be there

ChicosBailBonds · « **Reply #37 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:54:43 PM »

ROCK CHALK, JAYHAWK....KU

muguru · « **Reply #38 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:55:40 PM »

Quote from: forgetful on March 13, 2016, 05:46:12 PM

I think this is the worst job the committee has ever done. Teams like:

Syracuse
Vanderbilt
Tulsa

Have no business being in the tournament. Teams like Monmouth/Valparaiso/San Diego St/St. Marys got screwed.

+10000 How the hell does Cuse get in with a 72 RPI?? Tulsa with two losses to Memphis and gets in??

MerrittsMustache · « **Reply #39 on:** March 13, 2016, 05:59:47 PM »

Is it largely because we have more metrics to rank teams or does the Selection Committee keep getting worse and worse?

forgetful · « **Reply #40 on:** March 13, 2016, 06:01:23 PM »

The committee basically said performance on the court doesn't matter (with Syracuse), just have your coach sit out a while because of violations and we'll ignore all those losses and completely ignore the fact that with your coach you went, 1-5 down the stretch.

drewm88 · « **Reply #41 on:** March 13, 2016, 06:02:48 PM »

Those selections were as bad as the show.

Am I crazy or did they skip the analysis of the third region? Adjustment to the leaked bracket and the vitriol online?

ChitownSpaceForRent · « **Reply #42 on:** March 13, 2016, 06:04:37 PM »

Quote from: forgetful on March 13, 2016, 06:01:23 PM

The committee basically said performance on the court doesn't matter (with Syracuse), just have your coach sit out a while because of violations and we'll ignore all those losses and completely ignore the fact that with your coach you went, 1-5 down the stretch.

In that case, they should have ignored all of Michigan St. losses when Valentine was out and given them a 1 seed.

g0lden3agle · « **Reply #43 on:** March 13, 2016, 06:05:05 PM »

Quote from: T-Bone on March 13, 2016, 05:47:53 PM

They said Seton Hall was the last team in. Did I hear that right?

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 13, 2016, 05:49:48 PM

Yes. They're a 6 seed. And won the auto bid.

They meant the last matchup being announced, not the last team in. Last team in would be in the 11/11 matchups.

forgetful · « **Reply #44 on:** March 13, 2016, 06:07:13 PM »

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 13, 2016, 06:04:37 PM

In that case, they should have ignored all of Michigan St. losses when Valentine was out and given them a 1 seed.

I agree. They were completely inconsistent with what they valued. I agree with the ESPN reaction, that they basically said it doesn't matter what you do out of conference, it only matters what you do in the power conferences. If you are not in a power conference, then win your tournament or sit. Its absurd.

Compare, Syracuse/Vanderbilt/Tulsa to our performance against top teams. We compare very favorable with the exception of RPI. The point is that Syracuse/Vandy/Tulsa are closer to fringe NIT teams than fringe NCAA teams.

PGsHeroes32 · « **Reply #45 on:** March 13, 2016, 06:07:26 PM »

Cuse getting in was awful.

Cuse getting in without the play in is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen in my lifetime...not just in college hoops.

Idiots. All of them.

forgetful · « **Reply #46 on:** March 13, 2016, 06:09:09 PM »

Another thing. They claim that they do not try to set games up, but:

The decision to make A&M a 3 seed and UK a 4 seed is idiotic and would only be done if they were trying to set up:

Texas v. A&M; UK v. IU

tower912 · « **Reply #47 on:** March 13, 2016, 06:13:06 PM »

Michigan? Vanderbilt? Syracuse? Pretty sure Mac was talking about a couple of these teams going to Vegas.

wadesworld · « **Reply #48 on:** March 13, 2016, 06:15:33 PM »

Quote from: forgetful on March 13, 2016, 06:09:09 PM

Another thing. They claim that they do not try to set games up, but:

The decision to make A&M a 3 seed and UK a 4 seed is idiotic and would only be done if they were trying to set up:

Texas v. A&M; UK v. IU

Just curious, what seeds do you think those 2 teams should've gotten?

forgetful · « **Reply #49 on:** March 13, 2016, 06:18:04 PM »

Quote from: HowardsWorld on March 13, 2016, 06:15:33 PM

Just curious, what seeds do you think those 2 teams should've gotten?

Flip them. UK just beat them head to head to win the SEC tournament.

Kentucky: RPI 11
A&M: RPI 18

Add to it that IU should probably be a 4, and that Texas should be a 7 and there is a lot that seems to be "set up".

ChicosBailBonds · « **Reply #50 on:** March 13, 2016, 06:18:11 PM »

Quote from: forgetful on March 13, 2016, 06:09:09 PM

Another thing. They claim that they do not try to set games up, but:

The decision to make A&M a 3 seed and UK a 4 seed is idiotic and would only be done if they were trying to set up:

Texas v. A&M; UK v. IU

Agree. Did UK beat A&M like three times this year? Yet A&M gets the 3 seed and UK the 4 seed?

ecompt · « **Reply #51 on:** March 13, 2016, 06:22:49 PM »

Quote from: muguru on March 13, 2016, 05:55:40 PM

+10000 How the hell does Cuse get in with a 72 RPI?? Tulsa with two losses to Memphis and gets in??

Cuse was 19-13, including 3-9 on the road, lost five of its last six and was recently caught cheating. But they sometimes sell 25,000 tickets, so they get in. Disgrace.

forgetful · « **Reply #52 on:** March 13, 2016, 06:26:13 PM »

Quote from: ecompt on March 13, 2016, 06:22:49 PM

Cuse was 19-13, including 3-9 on the road, lost five of its last six and was recently caught cheating. But they sometimes sell 25,000 tickets, so they get in. Disgrace.

This is what bothers me. They get to play most non-conference games at home. Monmouth and others play them on the road.

If you made these mediocre power conference teams play all their non-conference games on the road, they'd be crap. Monmouth would have outplayed them this year.

They get to beat up on competition at home, hurting the lower tier conferences reputation and boasting the power conferences.

They set up an unbalanced beginning and use those "artificial reputations" to show how good the mediocre power conference teams are.

injuryBug · « **Reply #53 on:** March 13, 2016, 06:30:52 PM »

Not normally a fan of Coach Cal but he is killing it on espn. Going after NCAA for what they seed with is it RPI road wins schedule it is a floating target. A&M a 3 seed after he just best them

GGGG · « **Reply #54 on:** March 13, 2016, 06:32:10 PM »

A&M beat Kentucky earlier in the year.

forgetful · « **Reply #55 on:** March 13, 2016, 06:35:59 PM »

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 13, 2016, 06:32:10 PM

A&M beat Kentucky earlier in the year.

They played twice. Once at A&M, where they won a close 2 pt game at home. The other on a neutral site, Kentucky won.

Neutral site victory should take precedence.

brewcity77 · « **Reply #56 on:** March 13, 2016, 06:42:35 PM »

Quote from: forgetful on March 13, 2016, 06:35:59 PM

They played twice. Once at A&M, where they won a close 2 pt game at home. The other on a neutral site, Kentucky won.

Neutral site victory should take precedence.

Disagree. Neither should take precedence. Head to head should not be a metric at all because when most of the 351 eligible teams don't play head to head.

What matters is overall resume. Cal's argument is as stupid as if Kevin Willard went on ESPN and said they should be seeded ahead of Nova because of yesterday's result.

If the contention is that Kentucky had a stronger overall resume, he has a case. If he's basing it on one overtime result from earlier today, he's a myopic imbecile.

CountryRoads · « **Reply #57 on:** March 13, 2016, 06:50:11 PM »

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 13, 2016, 06:42:35 PM

Disagree. Neither should take precedence. Head to head should not be a metric at all because when most of the 351 eligible teams don't play head to head.

What matters is overall resume. Cal's argument is as stupid as if Kevin Willard went on ESPN and said they should be seeded ahead of Nova because of yesterday's result.

If the contention is that Kentucky had a stronger overall resume, he has a case. If he's basing it on one overtime result from earlier today, he's a myopic imbecile.

I agree with Cal that their game was completely meaningless today as are all Sunday games.

injuryBug · « **Reply #58 on:** March 13, 2016, 06:52:12 PM »

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 13, 2016, 06:42:35 PM

Disagree. Neither should take precedence. Head to head should not be a metric at all because when most of the 351 eligible teams don't play head to head.

What matters is overall resume. Cal's argument is as stupid as if Kevin Willard went on ESPN and said they should be seeded ahead of Nova because of yesterday's result.

If the contention is that Kentucky had a stronger overall resume, he has a case. If he's basing it on one overtime result from earlier today, he's a myopic imbecile.

Cal's point was he has no clue what they look at. Is it RPI? road schedule? non conference? conference?

brewcity77 · « **Reply #59 on:** March 13, 2016, 06:55:52 PM »

Quote from: AirPunch on March 13, 2016, 06:50:11 PM

I agree with Cal that their game was completely meaningless today as are all Sunday games.

That's always been the case and that's the fault of the conferences that schedule games on Sunday. Conference tournament games have always been overrated by fans and pundits.

ChicosBailBonds · « **Reply #60 on:** March 13, 2016, 06:57:58 PM »

Quote from: ecompt on March 13, 2016, 06:22:49 PM

Cuse was 19-13, including 3-9 on the road, lost five of its last six and was recently caught cheating. But they sometimes sell 25,000 tickets, so they get in. Disgrace.

I don't think they should get in, but not sure I buy the the ticket argument. They are being sent to St. Louis....not sure that is going to do anything for tickets. They shouldn't be in because they were busted and their coach on the sidelines because they got busted.

TAMU, Knower of Ball · « **Reply #61 on:** March 13, 2016, 07:05:26 PM »

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 13, 2016, 06:18:11 PM

Agree. Did UK beat A&M like three times this year? Yet A&M gets the 3 seed and UK the 4 seed?

They split the season series. Both games went to OT.

A&M 5-0 against top 50 RPI
Kentucky 2-2

There's your difference

TAMU, Knower of Ball · « **Reply #62 on:** March 13, 2016, 07:08:01 PM »

Quote from: forgetful on March 13, 2016, 06:35:59 PM

They played twice. Once at A&M, where they won a close 2 pt game at home. The other on a neutral site, Kentucky won.

Neutral site victory should take precedence.

Kentucky also won in overtime.

ChicosBailBonds · « **Reply #63 on:** March 13, 2016, 07:09:51 PM »

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 13, 2016, 07:05:26 PM

They split the season series. Both games went to OT.

A&M 5-0 against top 50 RPI
Kentucky 2-2

There's your difference

Thanks

chapman · « **Reply #64 on:** March 13, 2016, 07:18:57 PM »

Hilarious it was leaked. CBS punished for dragging out the sleeper of a selection show.

Quote from: JWags85 on March 13, 2016, 05:35:40 PM

Thats horrible. 19-13, woof

A final snub whine from Boeheim would be more fitting than gifting him a 10 seed.

rocky_warrior · « **Reply #65 on:** March 13, 2016, 10:33:45 PM »

Didn't have a computer at the time, but watched the show. Big snub that not ONE of the 5 CBS analysts had a Big East team in their final 4. I know I'm a homer for the BEast, but would have though someone would have mentioned Nova or X.

Hope the BEast represents well.

wadesworld · « **Reply #66 on:** March 13, 2016, 10:40:05 PM »

Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 13, 2016, 10:33:45 PM

Didn't have a computer at the time, but watched the show. Big snub that not ONE of the 5 CBS analysts had a Big East team in their final 4. I know I'm a homer for the BEast, but would have though someone would have mentioned Nova or X.

Hope the BEast represents well.

Xavier's draw is insanely tough. Can't see them making it out of that bracket. Trade places with Michigan State or Oklahoma and I'd pick them to make the Final Four. But UNC, West Virginia, and Kentucky could quite possibly be the toughest 1, 3, and 4 seeds in the tournament.

And Kansas is the most proven team in the field with Nova getting a really tough 7 seed in Iowa in the 2nd round.

CountryRoads · « **Reply #67 on:** March 13, 2016, 10:45:31 PM »

Quote from: HowardsWorld on March 13, 2016, 10:40:05 PM

Xavier's draw is insanely tough. Can't see them making it out of that bracket. Trade places with Michigan State or Oklahoma and I'd pick them to make the Final Four. But UNC, West Virginia, and Kentucky could quite possibly be the toughest 1, 3, and 4 seeds in the tournament.

And Kansas is the most proven team in the field with Nova getting a really tough 7 seed in Iowa in the 2nd round.

Total joke that nova and Xavier are not swapped.

ChitownSpaceForRent · « **Reply #68 on:** March 14, 2016, 01:19:22 AM »

Quote from: HowardsWorld on March 13, 2016, 10:40:05 PM

Xavier's draw is insanely tough. Can't see them making it out of that bracket. Trade places with Michigan State or Oklahoma and I'd pick them to make the Final Four. But UNC, West Virginia, and Kentucky could quite possibly be the toughest 1, 3, and 4 seeds in the tournament.

And Kansas is the most proven team in the field with Nova getting a really tough 7 seed in Iowa in the 2nd round.

Yea, Nova got a rough one. Michigan St is gonna cruise on into the Final 4. Death, taxes, Izzo in March.

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