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Author Topic: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/1/2024?  (Read 1063548 times)

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5525 on: November 24, 2023, 07:02:04 AM »
Really hope to be proven wrong, but I think UCONN will be #3 and we stay at 4. The voters insist upon punishing losses. They may simply value the KU game as a counterweight to the PU game.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/20/23?
« Reply #5526 on: November 24, 2023, 08:31:32 AM »
Here is how I got to 7:

1. Purdue
2. Arizona
3. UCONN
4. Houston
5. Creighton
6. 5. Duke
7. 6. Marquette

With Creighton's loss, Marquette is 6 on Monday.
« Last Edit: November 24, 2023, 08:36:36 AM by warriorfred »

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/20/23?
« Reply #5527 on: November 24, 2023, 08:35:01 AM »
Believe the voters go with Houston and Duke  over Marquette, primarily based on my cynicism toward the voters.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/20/23?
« Reply #5528 on: November 24, 2023, 08:43:29 AM »
Believe the voters go with Houston and Duke  over Marquette, primarily based on my cynicism toward the voters.
A close loss to the team that is going to be ranked number 1, should not hurt your ranking. However, the voters only seem to recognize that you lost. The rankings at this point really do not mean much. There were several teams ranked number 1 last year and they did not make the final 4.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5529 on: November 24, 2023, 10:42:15 AM »
The voters will recognize that we played 1 and 2 on consecutive days, sent 1 packing and lost by one possession to 2.

Our win over Kansas didn't take place in secret.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5530 on: November 24, 2023, 11:41:59 AM »
Didn't Kolek sum up his opinion of polls last year? 
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5531 on: November 24, 2023, 12:44:50 PM »
Beating the #1 team by 14 then losing to the new #1 team by 3 should not punish their ranking but who knows. Staying in the top 5 would be great.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5532 on: November 24, 2023, 01:16:17 PM »
The voting press is bad, but c'mon, they're not this bad. MU will be no worse than #4 on Monday.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5533 on: November 24, 2023, 01:57:38 PM »
MU will be somewhere in the 2-4 range……..I feel very confident of that.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5534 on: November 24, 2023, 02:41:53 PM »
The voters will recognize that we played 1 and 2 on consecutive days, sent 1 packing and lost by one possession to 2.

Our win over Kansas didn't take place in secret.

Makes sense to me as well Mike. Too bad we are not voters. They seem to believe that it is their sacred duty to punish any team that loses. That's why I think we stay at #4. The KU win and PU loss, in the minds of the voters (I think) are a wash.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5535 on: November 24, 2023, 04:55:29 PM »
Had the Warriors beaten Purdue, this group of ball knowers woulda figured MU ta be ranked 7th in next week's poll, aina?
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5536 on: November 24, 2023, 04:56:45 PM »
Had the Warriors beaten Purdue, this group of ball knowers woulda figured MU ta be ranked 7th in next week's poll, aina?

Not a single person would have thought that
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5537 on: November 24, 2023, 05:11:24 PM »
Ur givin' dis group two much credit, hey?
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5538 on: November 24, 2023, 07:37:12 PM »
Remember the gal from Madison and her “mixup” voting last year? There are some weirdos voting, and I think the simple human mind pays a lot of attention to the loss column this time of year.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5539 on: November 24, 2023, 09:46:01 PM »
Makes sense to me as well Mike. Too bad we are not voters. They seem to believe that it is their sacred duty to punish any team that loses. That's why I think we stay at #4. The KU win and PU loss, in the minds of the voters (I think) are a wash.

Well, that could happen. I could see Arizona staying ahead of us and UConn maybe moving ahead of us. What I'm saying is I think there is very little chance that Kansas - another 1-loss team that we dominated on a neutral court - will be ahead of us.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5540 on: November 24, 2023, 10:40:32 PM »
I just know we're #1 in Sagarin and KPI, I think i'd pick that over the AP #1, actually.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5541 on: November 25, 2023, 10:32:42 AM »
I just know we're #1 in Sagarin and KPI, I think i'd pick that over the AP #1, actually.

It's a pride thing or conversation thing to some. Very few people know what KPI is, and hardly anyone will say, "Well, Purdue might be #1 in both national polls, and maybe they beat us, but we're #1 in Sagarin."

We all know the polls don't "mean" anything. But they've been around for decades and for many there's a certain pride having one's team ranked high.

I like the little bit extra national publicity we get - maybe it doesn't "help" much of anything, but it sure doesn't hurt. And it doesn't consume me (or most other Scoopers that I can tell). It's just something to talk about.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5542 on: November 25, 2023, 10:42:32 AM »
Big deal to undergrads...braggin' writes ta friends, aina?
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/20/23?
« Reply #5543 on: November 25, 2023, 10:50:51 AM »
Here is how I got to 7:

1. Purdue
2. Arizona
3. UCONN
4. Houston
5. Creighton
6. 5. Duke
7. 6. Marquette

With Creighton's loss, Marquette is 6 on Monday.


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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5544 on: November 25, 2023, 05:16:32 PM »
It's a pride thing or conversation thing to some. Very few people know what KPI is, and hardly anyone will say, "Well, Purdue might be #1 in both national polls, and maybe they beat us, but we're #1 in Sagarin."

We all know the polls don't "mean" anything. But they've been around for decades and for many there's a certain pride having one's team ranked high.

I like the little bit extra national publicity we get - maybe it doesn't "help" much of anything, but it sure doesn't hurt. And it doesn't consume me (or most other Scoopers that I can tell). It's just something to talk about.

Oh I know, I want the pride too, but the computers liking us is a very good sign of things to come. More so than the ap. But it is is a tough call. Comes down to whether respect or the goods to back it up are more important to you, in this moment.

Like, say edey twists an ankle and cant go for a couple days, but we still struggle to beat an edey less team, but are ultimately successful. We'd be #1, but it'd feel crummy.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5545 on: November 25, 2023, 06:12:03 PM »
All that matters right now is MU is good with 2 big games on the horizon, if there second to 6th all is good.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5546 on: November 25, 2023, 06:35:49 PM »
Oh I know, I want the pride too, but the computers liking us is a very good sign of things to come. More so than the ap. But it is is a tough call. Comes down to whether respect or the goods to back it up are more important to you, in this moment.

Like, say edey twists an ankle and cant go for a couple days, but we still struggle to beat an edey less team, but are ultimately successful. We'd be #1, but it'd feel crummy.

Strongly disagree. Their 3-point shooting performance was an anomaly (check out their history), as was our poor 3 point shooting. Even so, we rallied Big Time, outplaying them to catch up, and OT was a real possibility. I really do not understand why you wrote the bolded. I am not saying we would win a rematch easily, but I believe we would have more than a 50/50 chance, and that's with Edey.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5547 on: November 25, 2023, 06:45:30 PM »
Uh...we wouldn't struggle against an Edey-less team.  We wipe the floor with them without Edey playing.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5548 on: November 25, 2023, 08:26:50 PM »
Traditional guards w/o Edey ain’t beating us without 65% 3fg%
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5549 on: November 25, 2023, 08:34:11 PM »
Traditional guards w/o Edey ain’t beating us without 65% 3fg%

And probably not even with Edey.

I usually can put a L behind me rather quickly, but that one? Nope. Never should have happened.
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