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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: jpwi2004 on February 20, 2009, 09:19:11 AM
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Did anyone see Crean just pulling away from Bo Ryan after the loss last night at Indiana? Ryan as we all know is one of the class acts in the game. He was trying to say something to Crean when they shook hands and Crean was physically pulling himself away from him. The guy is a fricking baby. You got beat Tom. Look him in the eye despite your insecurities as a coach. You suck Crean. BTW I am not a Badger fan.
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I did notice that and had to laugh. He may be wearing red ties and drinking Coke but he's still a poor loser. That used to really bug me about him....win AND lose like a man.
It was cute how the IU faithful were so excited to be down 1 at the half.
That said, and no offense, I think we should automatically place all Crean-led threads in the Superbar automatically.
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Did anyone see Crean just pulling away from Bo Ryan after the loss last night at Indiana? Ryan as we all know is one of the class acts in the game. He was trying to say something to Crean when they shook hands and Crean was physically pulling himself away from him. The guy is a fricking baby. You got beat Tom. Look him in the eye despite your insecurities as a coach. You suck Crean. BTW I am not a Badger fan.
Those quick handshakes after losses did bother me. However I think you forgot the teal for one sentence in your post.
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Those quick handshakes after losses did bother me. However I think you forgot the teal for one sentence in your post.
For example?
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For example?
There have been several times over the past few years when he just blows through the line, even when it seems like the other coach wants to say something. Sometimes they were the same games when he didn't come out and do the radio show. Not doing the radio show is fine, because I can understand how he feels after tough losses. (I know how I feel after tough losses.) Now maybe it's tough losses to coaches he dislikes. Either way, it doesn't look great.
However I strongly disagreed with the original poster's opinion of Bo Ryan, which is why I fixed that sentence by making it teal. I would have loved to see Crean and IU come out on top last night.
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Thank God somebody around here finally created a thread bashing Tom Crean.
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However I strongly disagreed with the original poster's opinion of Bo Ryan, which is why I fixed that sentence by making it teal. I would have loved to see Crean and IU come out on top last night.
Anyone remotely in tune with Marquette recruiting from 2002-2006 would know that Bo Ryan isn't "one of the class acts in the game". Some dirty stuff parlayed.
Of course, that's how it is with every coach: your guy is the best and classiest; their guy is the worst and slimiest.
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Anyone remotely in tune with Marquette recruiting from 2002-2006 would know that Bo Ryan isn't "one of the class acts in the game". Some dirty stuff parlayed.
Of course, that's how it is with every coach: your guy is the best and classiest; their guy is the worst and slimiest.
Unless your guy is Kelvin Sampson.
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Anyone remotely in tune with Marquette recruiting from 2002-2006 would know that Bo Ryan isn't "one of the class acts in the game". Some dirty stuff parlayed.
I know enough people who know Ryan who think he is a great coach...but a prick.
You can say that about a lot of coaches though.
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The Man of Tan is a shameless jerk off. He has no dignity!
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He actually looked like he's been laying of the Hawaiian Tropic lately. Ran into Freeway last night at my buddy's basketball game and he was absolutely flying off the handle because the Badgers were only up by one at half. Needless to say, he felt much better after UW won and he proceeded to knock down four threes in a row after the game, no joke. Dude can shoot.
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When ESPN panned the crowd with about 4 minutes left, the joint had pretty much cleared out except for the student section. These folks know their basketball and I wonder just how long turtlehead's honeymoon will last. Also, sour puss actually sat down on the bench and looked resigned in defeat in the second half.
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I ran into an MU alum from Evanville last week and she said TC virtually walks on water in the Indiana media's eyes. I would think he'll be regarded as a savior for at least three years.
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When ESPN panned the crowd with about 4 minutes left, the joint had pretty much cleared out except for the student section. These folks know their basketball and I wonder just how long turtlehead's honeymoon will last. Also, sour puss actually sat down on the bench and looked resigned in defeat in the second half.
If he doesn't produce a high quality team (Big Ten champ or Final Four) in 4 years (so 3 more years after this season), he is out. I think he will be out in that time period. I think the Big Ten is going to be a tough conference in the next few years. Illinois and OSU have awesome classes coming in. MSU will be tough. Minnesota will keep on getting better and Michigan is getting in the mix. WI is consistently solid. Crean is going to have a tough ride.
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Love this clip of TC after his loss last night....looks like the losing is catching up to him.
http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/blog/the_dagger/post/That-s-Tom-Crean-in-the-spotlight-losing-his-re?urn=ncaab,142888
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BoBo must really be under his skin.
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If he doesn't produce a high quality team (Big Ten champ or Final Four) in 4 years (so 3 more years after this season), he is out. I think he will be out in that time period. I think the Big Ten is going to be a tough conference in the next few years. Illinois and OSU have awesome classes coming in. MSU will be tough. Minnesota will keep on getting better and Michigan is getting in the mix. WI is consistently solid. Crean is going to have a tough ride.
No way, Indiana will pay Crean over 2 mil a year for the last 6 years of his contract. Face it Ind is struck with TC unless they can break the contract.
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Love this clip of TC after his loss last night....looks like the losing is catching up to him.
http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/blog/the_dagger/post/That-s-Tom-Crean-in-the-spotlight-losing-his-re?urn=ncaab,142888
hahaha
wow...classy guy
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If he doesn't produce a high quality team (Big Ten champ or Final Four) in 4 years (so 3 more years after this season), he is out. I think he will be out in that time period. I think the Big Ten is going to be a tough conference in the next few years. Illinois and OSU have awesome classes coming in. MSU will be tough. Minnesota will keep on getting better and Michigan is getting in the mix. WI is consistently solid. Crean is going to have a tough ride.
I'll take that bet. Number one, he has a huge contract with many years, no way he won't be there in a few years. He has a good class coming in next year and the makings of an even better one the year after if it all comes together.
The Big Ten is better than it has been, but he'll be in there 3 years from now. If he can take Marquette, playing in CUSA, playing in an absolute DUMP like the Old Gym, coming off a non NIT year averaging 9,500 fans a game to where he took MU.....well he'll get it done at IU with a lot less hurdles in his way.
He already has landed a top class for next year.....Bob Gibbons had it rated as tied for the best in the country with North Carolina a few months ago. Not sure where he has it ranked now, but it's certainly way up there and the next class he is in on some of the very top players.
http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/2008/09/indiana-hoosiers-2009-recruiting-class/
Other sites say #1 Big Ten recruiting class and #7 overall. http://indiana.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=882756
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Thank God somebody around here finally created a thread bashing Tom Crean.
+1.These guys are an embarassment. What are they going to do when Crean starts winning at IU? Move on!!
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+1.These guys are an embarassment. What are they going to do when Crean starts winning at IU? Move on!!
Exactly. But that won't stop many from dreaming and praying each night. I'll say this, if MU is equal to IU in 4 years, it means Buzz and the program are doing very well because IU will be very good by that point.
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TC gets to go to Mad-town in 2 weeks..that should be enjoyable.
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Exactly. But that won't stop many from dreaming and praying each night. I'll say this, if MU is equal to IU in 4 years, it means Buzz and the program are doing very well because IU will be very good by that point.
Totally agree. TC will be very successful at IU, just like he was at MU.
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can we all agree - he is successful and an asshat....
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can we all agree - he is successful and an asshat....
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I'll double that
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While I find it shocking....SHOCKING...that people would go out of their way on MUScoop to bash Crean, I have to say...
Bo Ryan - as great a coach as he is - is quite a dickbag off the court from a negative-recruiting standpoint. To make him out to be this gentleman-of-the-game at the expense of Crean is ridiculous. Every MU fan wanted TC to crush Ryan cuz Ryan sucked (and so did UW). Now that Crean's gone, suddenly Bo is an uber-gentleman? C'mon. Can people just be fair.
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irony - the defender of all things Tan Cream choose a name that illustrates one of the so called great ones worst recruiting moves...
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irony - the defender of all things Tan Cream choose a name that illustrates one of the so called great ones worst recruiting moves...
Get over him.
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can we all agree - he is successful and an asshat....
Sounds like the personality of 95% of successful coaches out there.
;D
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I can't stop watching that video. Are we really going to say Bo Ryan is terrible b/c he out-recruited someone? All's fair in love and war...and recruiting.
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I can't stop watching that video. Are we really going to say Bo Ryan is terrible b/c he out-recruited someone? All's fair in love and war...and recruiting.
Bo Ryan is terrible in many ways, I'll start with the Homan kid funeral as exhibit one. Exhibit two will be how he was at UWM when I was still at MU and what he did in back channels to get a game. Douchey Duberstein.
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He has no dignity!
I don't disagree with the comment, but somehow I love the fact that it was posted by a guy named GasPasser! :)
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That said, and no offense, I think we should automatically place all Crean-led threads in the Superbar automatically.
+1. Current Tom Crean commentary has absolutely nothing to do with Marquette basketball.
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While I find it shocking....SHOCKING...that people would go out of their way on MUScoop to bash Crean, I have to say...
Bo Ryan - as great a coach as he is - is quite a dickbag off the court from a negative-recruiting standpoint. To make him out to be this gentleman-of-the-game at the expense of Crean is ridiculous. Every MU fan wanted TC to crush Ryan cuz Ryan sucked (and so did UW). Now that Crean's gone, suddenly Bo is an uber-gentleman? C'mon. Can people just be fair.
How did things work out? Did Bo retire or did Crean leave MU?
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How did things work out? Did Bo retire or did Crean leave MU?
Crean left MU after delivering MU a final four and the best run of any MU coach not named Al McGuire.
Bo is still at UW-Madison, still trying to get to the final four, still complaining about every call and still figuring out if they should double down on Estill.
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Crean left MU after delivering MU a final four and the best run of any MU coach not named Al McGuire.
Bo is still at UW-Madison, still trying to get to the final four, still complaining about every call and still figuring out if they should double down on Estill.
You missed the point. Intentionally I will assume.
Was Bo a bigger "dickbag" negative recruiter for telling recruits that Crean was looking at other jobs or Crean for telling recruits that Bo was retiring? In the end which recruits will finish playing for the coach that told them he would be there?
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I get the point entirely. Yes, after 9 years of Bo saying Crean would leave, he got it right on the 9th year. Bo is Nostra Damus. :)
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I get the point entirely. Yes, after 9 years of Bo saying Crean would leave, he got it right on the 9th year. Bo is Nostra Damus. :)
Crean looked into job openings almost yearly. The right one finally came along. Eventually Bo will retire. I don't see any high ground on this issue.
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What happened with the Homan funeral?
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What happened with the Homan funeral?
Bo made a comment about Bruce Pearl arriving in a limo.