St John's

[BM1090]

St John's is horrible at defending the 3 and really good at protecting the rim.....hmmm

St John's is terrible at rebounding and at shooting in general but especially 3s.....hmmm

St John's plays the same 5 players 84% of the time....hmmm

If I were to use my Magic 8 ball, it'd come up pretty consistently as "all signs point to yes" on the question of whether or not we win.

From a statistical standpoint yeah this seems to be a good matchup. But I don't know how we stop Ponds. He's going to kill Howard/Rowsey. And their athleticism will give our little guards fits in the halfcourt.

[mu03eng]

Nova was 8-33 on 3s last nite.

But took 33, 3pt defense has very little to do with the rate you make them, it has to do with the rate you take them. We went 4-16 against Providence last Saturday and Providence is a pretty terrible 3pt defensive team so it can happen from time to time.

[mu03eng]

From a statistical standpoint yeah this seems to be a good matchup. But I don't know how we stop Ponds. He's going to kill Howard/Rowsey. And their athleticism will give our little guards fits in the halfcourt.

Greg and Sacar are going to have to be the ones playing Ponds. I think we also see 2-3 zone and some Hauser playing the 5 thrown in. Also think we limit the amount of Rowsey/Howard line-ups we play.

[skianth16]

From a statistical standpoint yeah this seems to be a good matchup. But I don't know how we stop Ponds. He's going to kill Howard/Rowsey. And their athleticism will give our little guards fits in the halfcourt.

I stopped by the local psychic this morning. Early prediction is Greg for SOTG for slowing Ponds down.

[fjm]

Theo was in video practicing both yesterday and today.

[Benny B]

The real question is to we hang a banner if we beat St. Johns: "Beat Saint John's*" (*Beat Duke, Beat Nova)

Had Duke beat UNC last night, we might have been the undisputed biennual transitive property champions come tomorrow afternoon.

[SaveOD238]

I stopped by the local psychic this morning. Early prediction is Greg for SOTG for slowing Ponds down.

Not likely.  As far as I can tell, only points matter for SOTG.

[GooooMarquette]

Not likely.  As far as I can tell, only points matter for SOTG.

Scorer Of The Game.

#defensenomatta

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Nova was 8-33 on 3s last nite.

So, Nova lost the game more than St. John's won it?

[GooooMarquette]

So, Nova lost the game more than St. John's won it?

Nova only hit the easy 3s.

[MarquetteDano]

This is the one team of the year where I will advocate heavy use of zone. They are undisciplined and like to slash. Use a 3/4 court press to make them work and wear them out and fall back into a zone to contain their slashers. Concerned that they love to get steals and transition and we have had some really ugly turnovers in the last few games.

Yes, yes, yes.  We know we are going to get burnt some in transition with poor transition defense.  We can ill afford to give up easy shots in the half court.  I really advocate for quite a bit of zone in this game.  I would love to see zone in a fourth of our half court defensive possessions.

[Nukem2]

Nova only hit the easy 3s.

Actually, Nova missed a lot of open 3s as it did against MU last year.

[onepost]

Greg and Sacar are going to have to be the ones playing Ponds. I think we also see 2-3 zone and some Hauser playing the 5 thrown in. Also think we limit the amount of Rowsey/Howard line-ups we play.

Was just gonna say, Greg and Sacar have to be the ones to check Ponds.  Everything moves through him and if you make a concerted effort to shut him down and SJU still beats you with their other 4 then so be it.  That would also lead to playing more zone as we probably can't have Rowsey and Howard on 6'7" wings all game.

It was broached on this board when we played Nova (relative to Brunson and Bridges) but I wouldn't hate even seeing a box-and-1 on Ponds.  Not that our D can get any worse, and we'd be susceptible to backdoors and elbow jumpers, but that would key in on their best option while simultaneously forcing them to hit from outside.

FWIW, I LOVED going triangle-and-2 when I coached 8th grade PAL basketball.  You gotta live on the edge every so often.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Against Nova, my buddy and I thought it was weird that Sacar was overplaying Brunson's off hand (right) channeling him to his left (strong hand). We were always taught to overplay the strong hand of the PG.

It was intentional so the only thing we could think of was that it was a Synergy thing about the flow of the offense.  Well, it didn't work as Brunson just had a field day 1:1.

With Ponds, MU should over play and wall his penetration with secondary help. No high hedging or screen switches.  Similar to what Izzo did to Dom in 2007.

[Loose Cannon]

Not likely.  As far as I can tell, only points matter for SOTG.

Yep, I've been tempted to break it down to 4 minutes segments and see if the insight might be different.

[Silkk the Shaka]

Not likely.  As far as I can tell, only points matter for SOTG.

With a team as atrocious as this MU team on D, we likely aren't going to win without someone putting up a ton of points. No stud when we lose.

Regardless, Theo would have won it had we beaten Providence based on excellent D.

[rocky_warrior]

Not likely.  As far as I can tell, only points matter for SOTG.

Ahem....
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=54854.msg962372
http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/stats/2017-2018/mugame03.html

Regardless, Theo would have won it had we beaten Providence based on excellent D.

Likely truth.

[PGsHeroes32]

Not likely.  As far as I can tell, only points matter for SOTG.

Which game do you have issue with the point scorer winning??

[SaveOD238]

Which game do you have issue with the point scorer winning??

I think I woulda gone Heldt on Wednesday.  Sometimes I think that the SOTG voters just check the box score, see 30+, and forget everything that happened in the game.  I’d rather go with who “stepped up” the most beyond their usual performance.

[naginiF]

Opening line St. John's -2

[ZiggysFryBoy]

I think I woulda gone Heldt on Wednesday.  Sometimes I think that the SOTG voters just check the box score, see 30+, and forget everything that happened in the game.  I’d rather go with who “stepped up” the most beyond their usual performance.

The more SOTGs we have from different players, the better it looks to the selection committee.

[GooooMarquette]

The more SOTGs we have from different players, the better it looks to the selection committee.

That would help recruiting.

[Dr. Blackheart]

The more SOTGs we have from different players, the better it looks to the selection committee.

The year Fro got the pity vote, MU was the last team in.  Just sayin'...

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I think I woulda gone Heldt on Wednesday.  Sometimes I think that the SOTG voters just check the box score, see 30+, and forget everything that happened in the game.  I’d rather go with who “stepped up” the most beyond their usual performance.

I mean Markus had 22 more points, 1 less rebound, 3 more assists, drew 7 more FTs, and shot 9/13 from the floor. I think his statistics were significantly better than Heldt's.

[4everwarriors]

The more SOTGs we have from different players, the better it looks to the selection committee.

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Word dude. Should improve hour seed line bye a spot orr too, aina?