Scholarship table
I can only think of one.
The one who in 2015 told Jones: "Your reputation is amazing. I will not let you down”?If so, I never talk about that one, so forget I mentioned him or her.
Apple - along with Facebook, YouTube and Spotify - finally kicked the d-bag conspiracy theorist Alex Jones off their sites. For those who might not know, Jones is now being sued for repeatedly claiming that Sandy Hook didn't really happen, the government is running a conspiracy to make us think it happened, and 20 little kids actually faked their deaths.Jones is claiming this is a First Amendment issue. Of course it isn't. Apple can take any podcast it wants off iTunes, and Jones still can spew his demented world view any time he wants.If there are 10 bigger d-bags in the world than Alex Jones, I can't name 'em.
Never even heard of the guy until last two days. Nutcase. However, I think those tech companies made a mistake. They are making him into a martyr, for one. Secondly, with them all acting at the same time, they will be accused of colluding. Finally, I may disagree with someone but will defend their right to the death for them to say what they want. This becomes more than a slippery slope, but a straight down cliff. So much division in this country already with camps going to different media, this will result in people going to their havens for social media, too. Then I read about the latest member of the NY Times editorial board. Wow. These are crazy times.
I couldn't write a "Chicos trying so hard not to sound like Chicos" post if I tried.
Trying not to sound like himself while making his same arguments. Never heard of the guy until two days ago? Laughable. Arguing that Jones should be given a platform to spew hate while not understanding that this isn't a 1st amendment case? Classic Chicos.
Finally, I may disagree with someone but will defend their right to the death for them to say what they want.
My favorite is the false equivalence to the NYT writer that has only Tucker Carlson, and cheesedicks like him, pretending to be outraged. No one else. And yet Chicos walked into that like a bear into a trap.
The difference between Alex Jones and Sarah Jeong is comparing black holes to apples, thats whataboutism in the most classic sense. And BTW it's not universal, twitter is getting hammered for not banning him.The tech companies are walking a difficult path because they are basically having to police speech because the consumers of speech are unwilling to do it for themselves. Alex Jones is a despicable human being and his lies hurt people, but shouldn't that be on the people who may or may not hear his speech to just not listen? I'm hard pressed to believe there is speech so dangerous it should be suppressed in any form but I admit I could be wrong or overly libertarian.To bring it back to the point of the thread though....does this type of expectation of moderation need to get priced into the risk for some tech companies like Facebook, Spotify, Apple, etc who are platforms for speech but now they are suddenly burdened with cost and PR considerations around policing speech?
The tech companies are not stopping him from saying what he wants to. He can still say what he wants, but he cannot say it on their private corporation platforms. Nowhere in the 1st amendment does it say private corporations need to provide a platform for people to say what they want to say. This can be a slippery slope, agreed, but as long as they are not discriminating based on gender, race, religion, sexual orientation, etc I have no problem with private companies determining who can and cannot speak on their platforms."Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
I agree that Apple, etc, might make Jones a martyr. Otherwise, I don't agree with much of what chicos2 says.Those platforms refusing to air Jones' crapola is no different than CBS refusing to air hard-core pornography, Fox News refusing to have a left-wing host, MSNBC refusing to have a right-wing host, etc.Nobody is stopping Alex Jones from spewing his hate, racism and conspiracy theories. He just has to find outlets that will accept them. Maybe Hannity needs a co-host.Oh, and most of the same people who are outraged that Jones is being "denied his freedom of speech" believe the NFL not only has the right to blackball Kaepernick but has a duty to do so.
MSNBC does have hosts from the right. Joe Scarborough
MSNBC does have hosts from the right. Joe Scarborough, Nicole Wallace, Steve Schmidt, Michael Steele, and that nuttier-than-a-fruitcake Hugh Hewitt. MSNBC is left opinionated for sure, but they don't repeatadly make crap up or pitch utter BS and conspiracy theories like it's normal news.
I agree with this. Fox has hosts from the left, too. Chris Wallace, is a Democrat. Alan Colmes (RIP) was there for years,a Democrats. According to one list I found, at least 20 contributors. Sally Kohn wrote a piece in Time about her work there. http://time.com/5233477/sally-kohn-the-opposite-of-hate/I believe it was only 24 hours ago that MU82 accused others of making a statement(s) without a shred of evidence to back it up, but then he comes out with that statement.
This is true, fair enough, but I did say "right-wing," and I'm usually talking about extreme when I use that term. Schmidt is now a Democrat, I believe.
SONO back under $17. I hopped back in. #pray