Sport organizations you admire

[HouWarrior]

I've had to deal with just about every team in the nation over the last 17 years, every league, every major college conference.   Many have quality people, smart leadership, some do not.  None are perfect, nor should they be.  Different missions, different complexities that many fans don't understand in my opinion.

There are also those organizations that are amazing at doing one thing, and inept at others.  The Cowboys fit this bill.  One of the smartest organizations I've ever dealt with on the business side.  These guys can turn so much to gold it is incredible....but their football product is anything but spectacular...l would call the football side a failure the last 15 years from a W's and L's, but an amazing force in other areas.

My point being it depends on what the criteria is, what resources they have to bear, the market they are in, so on and so forth.

Regardless of your greater vast exposure to all these teams...dont overthink this. Pick your own criteria. What one person admires another may not. These are just gut feel opinions...an interesting topic.

Personally, I like smaller market teams, people ownership, loyalty/class, sustained success,  and over achievement viz avail $$

Others note for example the Yankees a big market, big money, rich owner team with undeniable success..Thats great ....who couldnt admire the success/results of the Yanks.

Your reference to Cowboys is interesting too. Who wouldnt note how they can turn a dime at every angle....great businessmen. If you admire them say so. I dont agree on them because J Jones(owner.GM--what a joke) cowboys have won less than even our Texans during the same period...big press and annual hype... but onfield results have lacked since days of Landry and Jimmy J.

So please...on any criteria you want post the teams, outside of your personal favs (ie the "other guys") that you admire and why.

The Ducks/Kings are a pretty admirable organizations--yes? Well run, great fan experience, pretty decent success

[CTWarrior]

When our Astros were still in NL central I saw traveling Cards fans, and they seemed to handle themselves very well...but for sure...I have never been to a Cardinals Game in St Louis...so this may well be my bad...from afar. I had the impression, (admittedly partially created by announcers) that the fans are knowledgeable,  known to clap for an opposing pitcher if he had a great game, etc...they seem intensely loyal.

What makes them the worst actually (or are you simply a rival cubs fan-- lol) ?

Cardinals fans are the worst because they vocally and continuously refer to themselves as the best fans in baseball.

[Benny B]

Regardless of your greater vast exposure to all these teams...dont overthink this. Pick your own criteria. What one person admires another may not. These are just gut feel opinions...an interesting topic.

Personally, I like smaller market teams, people ownership and over achievement viz avail $$

Others note for example the Yankees a big market, big money, rich owner team with undeniable success..Thats great ....who couldnt admire the success/results of the Yanks.

Your reference to Cowboys is interesting too. Who wouldnt note how they can turn a dime at every angle....great businessmen. If you admire them say so. I dont agree on them because J Jones(owner.GM--what a joke) cowboys have won less than even our Texans during the same period...big press and annual hype... but onfield results have lacked since days of Landry and Jimmy J.

So please...on any criteria you want post the teams, outside of your personal favs (ie the "other guys") that you admire and why.

The Ducks/Kings are a pretty admirable organizations--yes? Well run, great fan experience, pretty decent success

Seriously... you can't start a topic on "sports organizations you admire" and expect Chicos to keep his mouth shut (and/or tell us all about the time he had dinner with every major sports team owner and GM in the ESPN private dining room while LeBron, Peyton and Clayton put on a variety show for everyone's entertainment.)

[Skitch]

Cardinals fans are the worst because they vocally and continuously refer to themselves as the best fans in baseball.

In all fairness, Packer fans do this too (not best fans in baseball but sports in general).

Also HouWarrior I apologize if you thought I was chastising you. That definitely wasn't my intent. I have plenty of friends and family that bought the stock and think it's an awesome souvenir.  My comment was more about the people that think their purchase makes them mini Mark Cuban.  I actually know a guy who owns this and wears it semi regularly

[HouWarrior]

Seriously... you can't start a topic on "sports organizations you admire" and expect Chicos to keep his mouth shut (and/or tell us all about the time he had dinner with every major sports team owner and GM in the ESPN private dining room while LeBron, Peyton and Clayton put on a variety show for everyone's entertainment.)

Lol lol

[brandx]

Seriously... you can't start a topic on "sports organizations you admire" and expect Chicos to keep his mouth shut (and/or tell us all about the time he had dinner with every major sports team owner and GM in the ESPN private dining room while LeBron, Peyton and Clayton put on a variety show for everyone's entertainment.)

Knock it off, Benny. That's my job.

THIS IS YOUR FINAL WARNING!!

[HouWarrior]

In all fairness, Packer fans do this too (not best fans in baseball but sports in general).

Also HouWarrior I apologize if you thought I was chastising you. That definitely wasn't my intent. I have plenty of friends and family that bought the stock and think it's an awesome souvenir.  My comment was more about the people that think their purchase makes them mini Mark Cuban.  I actually know a guy who owns this and wears it semi regularly

Absolutely no apology needed. It was I who personalized and foolishly thinskinned the response.

BTW, one fun thing  I get is two tickets every year in the mail to the shareholders meeting at Lambeau. I have never been. If anyone in WI wants them just message me here. (they dont have my name on them, just a UPC bar--- so you probably can just fake you are me...heck I'll even send along my proxy). Who knows it may be a fun time. Let me know...you can sit with Sultan

[HouWarrior]

FIFA

lol As John Oliver says ..."FIFA is a vast criminal organization that occasionally conducts soccer matches"...

[MU82]

Seriously... you can't start a topic on "sports organizations you admire" and expect Chicos to keep his mouth shut (and/or tell us all about the time he had dinner with every major sports team owner and GM in the ESPN private dining room while LeBron, Peyton and Clayton put on a variety show for everyone's entertainment.)

I have had exposure to Chicos on Scoop ... and now I admire everyone else!

[brandx]

lol As John Oliver says ..."FIFA is a vast criminal organization that occasionally conducts soccer matches"...

Back to the original question though, I admire organizations that come up with a workable plan and stick to it.

Two that come to mind immediately are the SA Spurs and San Francisco Giants.

They can both be compared to teams from their same states to illustrate what I am saying.

Compare the Giants to the Dodgers. The Giants have a plan on how they want to win and have been very successful at it. I am unable to make any headway out of what the Dodgers are attempting. Their past moves show that their only strategy is more money, more money. Yey, when Greinke's contract is up, that whole philosophy is thrown out the window. Their modus operandi seems to be spend money, except some days when they don't feel like it.

Similarly, you could compare the Spurs to the Dallas Mavericks. The Spurs have a certain type of on-floor player to fit their system. The Mavs just grab random pieces of the puzzle as they become available.

The Packers are the most obvious example in football. Ted has a plan for what he thinks will work to build and maintain a winning team. And, often to the frustration of GB fans, he sticks to it.

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Hey, everyone remembers that the Cardinals are under investigation by the FBI, right?

[HouWarrior]

Hey, everyone remembers that the Cardinals are under investigation by the FBI, right?

Point well taken

Our Astros hired a former Card exec Jeff Luhnow as our GM.
The Cards computer guy claimed he was hacking our computers to see if Luhnow's success in rebuilding the 'stros was based on using Metrics programs that Luhnow may have taken with him from the Cards. Finding no evidence of Luhnow thievery he still stayed in the hack and grabbed our internal players assesments/metric analysis. A Federal computer crime.
 
This one guy working for the Cards has already pled guilty to federal computer hacking charges....awaiting final sentencing now.

In this incident I loathe and do not admire the Cards in the least...and I'll officially downgrade my admiration of them downward a few notches. In their defense, to a degree,  the FBI found that this guy pretty much lone wolfed his hacking...he was not asked/told to do so by higher ups. But no doubt it was a sneaky stunt only Bill Belichek could love. lol


Even though its my home team ...and Therefore not eligible under this thread's  parameters... The Astros are currently a very well run organization, converting a five year cellar hell to smart signings, very deep farm system, disciplined use of $$...fun team to watch, good stadium experience. My gut tells me Carlos Correa has Derek Jeter type HOF potential...he is special

[Dr. Blackheart]

John McDonough is the best executive in sports.  Roller Derby is the best league.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Seriously... you can't start a topic on "sports organizations you admire" and expect Chicos to keep his mouth shut (and/or tell us all about the time he had dinner with every major sports team owner and GM in the ESPN private dining room while LeBron, Peyton and Clayton put on a variety show for everyone's entertainment.)

I have been blessed to have a different role than 99.9% of the people on this board.  You can always put me on ignore.  I have an insight that most don't because of past history.

Don't know LeBron or Clayton. Peyton...different story. 

I can't answer Houston's question by ignoring the life experiences I've had.   Let me give you an example, my first few meetings with the Denver Broncos were when they were building the replacement for Mile High Stadium...at the time it was to be called Invesco Field.  My interactions with their executive team was tinged by one guy that was hitting on my colleague so much, than he later told her he would cut us a better deal if she slept with him.  So my opinion of the Broncos organization has that bias with it.  Those types of things, the vast vast vast majority of people here don't get to experience first hand because they aren't involved in it day to day.

Again, don't like the responses...easy solution.

[HouWarrior]

I have been blessed to have a different role than 99.9% of the people on this board. 

Chiquito:

At long last..... your darkest secrets are revealed. I suspected this.

ANNOUNCEMENT TO ALL SCOOPERS:

....Chicos is a point 1 percenter !!!!!!, ....

he secretly lives the life of an elite of the elites....ie he is at the top of those " one percenters"  that are so reviled by the liberal media (this also explains why you hate the damn liberal media--lol).

BTW, Chiquito, I am different from many as ...I instead prefer to see you as a "job creator"....because...I am like many here ....we all see it as our "job" (as created by you)  ...to occasionally give you some good natured kidding....

Which...BTW... is what I am doing here, and what Benny was doing with his post....so

laugh a little at yourself...Geez ...no wonder the liberal media is out to get you...you one percenters take yourselves way too seriously.

lol.lol
lol

[JWags85]

When our Astros were still in NL central I saw traveling Cards fans, and they seemed to handle themselves very well...but for sure...I have never been to a Cardinals Game in St Louis...so this may well be my bad...from afar. I had the impression, (admittedly partially created by announcers) that the fans are knowledgeable,  known to clap for an opposing pitcher if he had a great game, etc...they seem intensely loyal.

What makes them the worst actually (or are you simply a rival cubs fan-- lol) ?

A later poster hit it with the "Best Fans in Baseball" comment.  Me being a Cubs fan only factors into the fact that I have many interactions with them.  When I was in college, I had a begrudging respect for them.  I met multiple girls from STL that weren't just Cards fans, they could talk rosters, strategy, etc...  Very knowledgeable.  It wasn't until I moved to Chicago, went to multiple games at Wrigley, had more interactions, that the smug, haughty side came out. "Doing it the right way", "classiest organization", etc...  Any time anything happened, they were quick with the "it would never happen to a top class organization like ours".  Or telling Cubs fans that it was pathetic at how excited they were about winning the series this past fall.  Frankly, it reminded me a lot of UW fans.  Needless to say, the hacking scandal was delicious.  As was them losing their minds and reacting with racist fervor when Hayward chose to leave their hallowed grounds for Wrigley.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Chiquito:

At long last..... your darkest secrets are revealed. I suspected this.

ANNOUNCEMENT TO ALL SCOOPERS:

....Chicos is a point 1 percenter !!!!!!, ....

Definitely not, at least not in the income department.    In the world of sports, I've been lucky, and yes...part of an elite and small fraternity.  Is what it is.

Just as I value opinions of the military here more from MUeng and Keefe, than I do others....because they have experience to bear and personal insights.  No different.

[MerrittsMustache]

It's just such a shame that the media has ruined the Patriots reputation so much. They are a 1st class organization all the way. I don't know how anyone could warrant more respect than Tom Brady. We've had a great group of guys over the years who worked their tails off. Most of those guys were overlooked by every other team in the NFL. I'm not going to get in any debates on here about the patriots "cheating". It's better that way for all of us. But Tedy Bruschi said it best: don't believe what everyone says, just believe the greatness that you have seen on the field for the past 15 years. Cuz that's real

Yes, if only the media had completely ignored the continuous, repeated cheating by the Patriots, the franchise would be revered!

The Patriots are like Barry Bonds. What they accomplished on the field is highly impressive but anyone who thinks they reached those peaks "organically" is kidding themselves.

[MerrittsMustache]

Cardinals fans are the worst because they vocally and continuously refer to themselves as the best fans in baseball.

Yep, they're Packer fans of MLB.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Just as I value opinions of the military here more from MUeng and Keefe, than I do others....because they have experience to bear and personal insights.  No different.

I think people would respect your experience in conjunction with your opinion -- I however missed where the opinion was given in your posts.

I think time & place things come together for a lot of teams but it is hard to keep it going long-term.

A few of my favorites.
Braves & Twins in the late 80's/90's
Spurs
Blackhawks since the elder Wirtz died

[Coleman]

I have a mild defense of Packers shareholders (I am a Packer fan but have never bought stock, FWIW)...

It might not give that individual shareholder any real power or voting rights, with one HUGE exception:

The Packers ownership structure guarantees with absolute certainty the Packers will never leave Wisconsin. No other professional sports franchise can say that to their fans. No other sports team knows who will own them in 50 years. The Packers will never have a single owner or a small ownership group that wants to move them to a different market.

To me, as a fan, this is invaluable. That justifies the $250 cost.

That said, I do think it is foolish when people parade around their "owner" status. I would like to thank them for putting down the cash to keep the Packers in Wisconsin, so I don't have to.

[wadesworld]

Yes, if only the media had completely ignored the continuous, repeated cheating by the Patriots, the franchise would be revered!

The Patriots are like Barry Bonds. What they accomplished on the field is highly impressive but anyone who thinks they reached those peaks "organically" is kidding themselves.

What teams in the NFL don't bend the rules?

What baseball players don't cheat?

[CTWarrior]

Many people said the Spurs and that is the first thing that came into my head when I read the question.

I admired what the Tampa Bay Rays did in the late aughts and early teens.

[brandx]

Yep, they're Packer fans of MLB.

Pot, meet kettle

[naginiF]

What teams in the NFL don't bend the rules?

What baseball players don't cheat?

None.  So to get repeatedly caught means something special, even more so in the NFL.  I can't think of a single franchise i'd say i 'admire' in the NFL.

I too have a soft spot in my heart for small market baseball teams that stick with a plan (growing up in MN will do that to a man).  To that end, I really like what the Royals have done over the last 6 years and will be interested to see if it is sustainable, if so they should be in the 'admire' column.

Nova, Duke and Gonzaga are great examples of programs to admire in college bball.  for all of them i hope it's the organization and not the current specific coach.

From the 'HE stay/go' thread in the Al i was really expecting to see the Timberwolves over here