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[May 16, 2024, 06:05:43 PM]

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The Superbar / Re: 2024 PGA Championship Thread
« Last post by Jockey on Today at 10:15:27 AM »
Once again, police being police.

#norespect
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The Superbar / Re: EV's
« Last post by dgies9156 on Today at 09:36:02 AM »
So you agree, we should eliminate oil industry subsidies to stimulate actual market demand for EVs.

Not opposed to elimination of direct subsidies for many industries as long as we do so across the board.

Much depends on what you define as subsidies.

And, while I agree that we pay more than federal taxes, the flat tax is for federal income taxes. In my case, I also live in a state where we don't have state income taxes, our property taxes are comparatively reasonable (especially compared to New York or Illinois) and the only "high" tax is sales tax and even that is negligible on food and pharmaceuticals -- the basics of life.

But you liberals hate us and want to burn our governor in effigy (only because you can't burn him at the stake in real life). I'll admit, at times our governor is just slightly smarter than a swamp creature's intuition but overall, he's been a good governor, especially when our state faces emergencies.

Brother T Smith: Maybe the answer isn't to be revenue neutral but to begin to ask the question of what we should be doing as a government? I know that's asking for the moon, given the power of K Street but we really need to begin the process of thinking through a base zero budget, where we burn the last year's budget to the ground and make agencies and administrations justify every cent they spend. Efficiency in government is possible, just not probable.

In Florida, for example, I believe we have about 900,000 more residents than New York State. Our state government spends about half of what New York State spends in a year. Our education system is ranked about average for a large state, our transportation system works and our social service network is reasonable. Oh, and we're building a tollway that will have some sort of electric vehicle capacity embedded in it and our new private passenger rail system shows considerable promise!

Finally, Brother Jesmu, no, it's not a political decision, though I'll betcha anything the vast majority of EV operators share my wife's political views. In our case, it was a convenience and need issue and neither of us are fully convinced that the EV design and infrastructure is to the point where we want to sink $45,000+ into one. The vehicle I was interested in had an eight-year, 100,000 mile battery life guarantee.

You can tell me all you want to about EVs on long trips and, down here, maybe it's true. But a year ago, I had a Tesla rental in Chicago and the recharge time in cold weather was absurd, even on a high speed rapid charger. 
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The Superbar / Re: 2024 PGA Championship Thread
« Last post by JWags85 on Today at 09:35:19 AM »
Strange that no one is saying that he just should have complied with the officer.

Oh people are.  Same people are stunned he "drove so far dragging a police officer".

Louisville PD are gonna need to single handedly stop a terrorist attack to undo the deserved negative PR they've incurred over the last 5 years.
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The Superbar / Re: 2024 PGA Championship Thread
« Last post by PGsHeroes32 on Today at 09:34:23 AM »
Birdies #1

Here he comes
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The Superbar / Re: EV's
« Last post by jesmu84 on Today at 09:29:47 AM »

As a side note, Ms. Dgies and I had a discussion the other day about what to do when her mid-sized sport-ute's lease came due late this summer. One option I pitched after reading all the hooplah in here (and I do think some electric vehicles do make sense) is an all-electric comparable vehicle. She, despite being the liberal she is, vetoed that one so fast even my head spun. I was open to the idea and her comment was, "yeah, and it will take how long to get to Chicago?"

Sigh.

Owning an EV is not political.

And clearly neither of you have done solid research on EV use case or the actual time/requirements of an EV road trip.
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The Superbar / Re: 2024 PGA Championship Thread
« Last post by Uncle Rico on Today at 09:22:53 AM »
Like I said, case by case situation. And as we know Louisville cops always show restraint.  They would never barge in and shoot.

Muggs, nuance to everything.

Scottie Scheffler is a thug.  End of story.  The fact that the PGA Championship is letting him play is a direct indictment of the lawlessness we allow in this nation
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The Superbar / Re: EV's
« Last post by TSmith34, Inc. on Today at 09:15:20 AM »
Hardly.

The amount of taxes paid by the so-called "poorest among us" is almost nil. A flat tax rate isn't going to change that, especially if a standard deduction excludes the first X amount of a person's income. Most proposals I've seen would do that. The "poorest among us" would continue to pay a negligible amount of federal income tax regardless of the taxing approach.


Frequently it is the very wealthiest individuals--people like Steve Forbes come to mind--that are in favor of a flat tax. I don't think that is because they are advocating that they pay more.   

And if the wealthiest are paying less, then who pays more just to get us back to revenue neutral?
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The Superbar / Re: EV's
« Last post by Pakuni on Today at 09:06:31 AM »
Hardly.

The amount of taxes paid by the so-called "poorest among us" is almost nil.

Here's your periodic reminder that people are taxed in more ways than the federal income tax.
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The Superbar / Re: EV's
« Last post by Hards Alumni on Today at 08:52:49 AM »
Hardly.

The amount of taxes paid by the so-called "poorest among us" is almost nil. A flat tax rate isn't going to change that, especially if a standard deduction excludes the first X amount of a person's income. Most proposals I've seen would do that. The "poorest among us" would continue to pay a negligible amount of federal income tax regardless of the taxing approach.

Ultimately, when it comes to the tax code, it is usually used to favor the interests of whichever party is in power at any given moment. In the case of electric vehicles, I'd rather see them gain market acceptance than bribing people to buy them through a $7,500 tax credit. Make them so desirable that people "have to have them." That in turn will stimulate demand, lower unit cost and broaden acceptance. It's the market economy and it's worked for most of our history.

As a side note, Ms. Dgies and I had a discussion the other day about what to do when her mid-sized sport-ute's lease came due late this summer. One option I pitched after reading all the hooplah in here (and I do think some electric vehicles do make sense) is an all-electric comparable vehicle. She, despite being the liberal she is, vetoed that one so fast even my head spun. I was open to the idea and her comment was, "yeah, and it will take how long to get to Chicago?"

So you agree, we should eliminate oil industry subsidies to stimulate actual market demand for EVs.
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The Superbar / Re: 2024 PGA Championship Thread
« Last post by The Lens on Today at 08:49:23 AM »
Ya....these are totally similar situations.

Like I said, case by case situation. And as we know Louisville cops always show restraint.  They would never barge in and shoot.

Muggs, nuance to everything.
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