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(1) Frank Kaminsky has become a fine, fine collegiate basketball player. It seems unlikely, however, that he will be much of a pro. He just does not have the stuff of a high-level NBA player.
(2) The studio announcer who ridiculed and ranted against the Maryland fans for storming the court after the 14th-ranked Terrapins defeated the fifth-ranked University of Wisconsin at Madison Badgers is a dopey, clichéd windbag.
His point was Maryland is #14 playing at home against #5. A nice win but hardly a program defining event ... especially for a program that won a national championship in 2000. Storming the court was not necessary.By storming the court, is Maryland is announcing to the world they are second division B1G team? So when they beat the top team, it's a big deal?
Who cares about the Badgers?
That was Seth Greenberg, two coaches ago at Virginia Tech.His point was Maryland is #14 playing at home against #5. A nice win but hardly a program defining event ... especially for a program that won a national championship in 2000. Storming the court was not necessary.By storming the court, is Maryland is announcing to the world they are second division B1G team? So when they beat the top team, it's a big deal?
Bronson Koenig is a fine player, but Jackson is a better defender when you have quick guards like that out there. Wisconsin is still a like F4 team though unless they get in Kentucky's region. Imo the second best team in the country.
They got smoked at home by Duke.
Ha. I just edited my post as you typed this.
Bronson Koenig is a fine player, but Jackson is a better defender when you have quick guards like that out there. Wisconsin is still a like F4 team though unless they get in Kentucky's region. Imo the third best team in the country.
But all of what you have written, including your interpretation of Seth Greenberg’s silly rant, suggests that there is some higher meaning to collegiate sports and that fans should live in restrained worlds of pretend. Maryland is having a nice season, reflected in its being ranked 14th in the country. That said, the Terrapins’ win over a solid, top-five University of Wisconsin at Madison team is exciting and reason for celebration. The “act like you’ve been there before” philosophy is nonsense. Maryland fans neither admitted nor conceded anything about their university or their basketball team by rushing the court and basking in a nice win over a good team. These standards for when and how much fans should celebrate are artificial and clichéd. I am certain the coaches and players from the University of Wisconsin at Madison feel no better about this loss because the Maryland fans charged the court in celebration.
Disagree, with all of the pick and roll, pick and pop action the NBA loves to run, his game is tailor made for that. And shooters his size are very hard to find. I think he has a solid 10 year NBA career.
Why not have every home game everywhere end with a storming of the court?
Let's do it and if the game wasn't that great we can just mill about.
Brian Butch was very similar with pick and pop skills. Got him nowhere in the NBA. I always assess college centers by comparing to Tyson Chandler--a frickin' monster compared to Kaminsky. I am not dismissing Kaminsky--I am just not sure. Can a GM with a lotto pick stake his career on Kaminsky? I wouldn't.
So what. They are a sh##ton better than we are.
Perfect! But instead of storming, maybe we could just saunter onto the court.
Brian Butch was a complete stiff. Kaminsky is way more skilled and athletic.
The bartender and I bonded during the game because he is a Maryland grad. I was drinking Oskar Blues "Chub" Nice stout that went perfectly with a brat. Waited for him to buy a round but he was too cheap.
I contend that this is the year everyone thinks UW makes the Final Four, and they will go out before that. Last year, Final Four not all that surprising.The Big Ten isn't that great this year, they haven't been tested and certain kids of teams will give them fits.
I contend that this is the year everyone thinks UW makes the Final Four, and they will go out before that. Last year, Final Four not all that surprising.The Big Ten isn't that great this year, they haven't been tested and certain kids of teams will give them fits.All comes down to the draw and the crap shoot that is the tournament.
Back in my day it was UCLA and then everyone else. I think Kentucky has a shot at being the first undefeated team since Indiana back in 1976. What do you all think?
The problem I see with Kaminsky in the NBA is that I can't figure out a current NBA player who he reminds me of. I can see some decent comparisons to Sam Dekker though.
Terps grad, now a bartender, hey? Awesome.
Guy won't/won't have to play with his back to the basket in the NBA. Guys has a tailor made stretch 4 game.
Is Koening the guard last night who missed every shot he took, and some of them being very poorly timed early possession jumpers?I've only watched Wisconsin thrice this season (@MU, @Rutgers, last night) so I'm not as familiar as years past but the guard who did the above seemed to not have any qualms about taking the shots which made me wonder if it was an off night for him or if Maryland's scout was to dare him to shoot.
The problem I see with Kaminsky in the NBA is that I can't figure out a current NBA player who he reminds me of.
So everyone who graduates college is supposed to be a Fortune 500 executive?Way to knock someone for having a jobHow do you know it wasnt his moonlight job? I drive for Lyft and Uber on the weekends for extra money. Should I not tell people I am a Marquette grad cause it "might make us look bad"Grow up dude
So everyone who graduates college is supposed to be a Fortune 500 executive?Way to knock someone for having a jobHow do you know it wasnt his moonlight job? I drive for Lyft and Uber on the weekends for extra money. Should I not tell people I am a Marquette grad cause it "might make us look bad"
They were 2002 champs actually.I don't see any reason for them not to storm the court. Yes, they're ranked, and yes, Maryland has a pretty strong hoops history, but this is a team they beat with just two losses and fresh off a Final Four appearance. Really, they would have been a one loss team coming into tonight had Kaminsky played against Rutgers. THe landscape of today just seems that any win over a top 5 opponent is reason to celebrate. And I agree with that. It is a great accomplishment, no matter what your history is or hasn't been. Maryland hasn't exactly been tearing it up since their title season in '02 either. College should be about going nuts and celebrating.
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.
If Leuer can get minutes, I think Frank can.
It was an off night, but it was also the best backcourt he has played big minutes against. He is a good player...only a sophomore. But they will need Jackson back.
(2) The studio announcer who ridiculed and ranted against the Maryland fans for storming the court after the 14th-ranked Terrapins defeated the fifth-ranked University of Wisconsin at Madison Badgers is a dopey, clichéd windbag. The Terrapins had just played very well and pulled off a nice win against a top-five team. Storm the court and go nuts, Terrapins fans. And do not let anyone, including some loudmouth sports announcer, tell you there are standards for when it is acceptable to have fun and be proud of your school.
#14 beating #5? Move along. Nothing to see here.
Been warning Wosconsin-madison fans all season that they picked a real bad year to have their best team ever. With UK and Duke in particular,and even UVA and UL (with jones anyway)...really tough.
I would put Gonzaga above UL and maybe UVA. This is not like the overrated Gonzaga teams in the past
Sam plain and simply can't shoot. Wasn't he known as a sharp shooter coming into UW? His shot is more broke than teamdee's on a Monday night in Franklin, WI.
And like Sultan said, guys like Aldridge, Bosh, or Kevin Love would eat him up. Or even guys like Rudy Gay, Draymond Green, or James Johnson who play at the 4. He's never had to chance guys to the perimeter on defense like he would in the NBA.
That's what I've heard about Ginaaga teams in the past.
Whatis the point of your post? So, do you want me to post a list of NBA players who get eaten up by Aldridge, Bosh, and Love?To make it easy, let's just say everyone they play against.
Which is why I listed other good but not great stretch 4s. He was called a "tailor made stretch 4". Aka a big guy that can shoot. And I would argue that he can't defend stretch 4s and isn't athletic enough to create matchup problems against other 4s. If you're talking about someone being a lottery pick, I would think you'd compare him against some of the best at his position in the NBA.As for Brad Miller, Kamisky is a good 25-30lbs lighter than him and would need that weight to defend in the post like Miller did.
I don't ever remember a Gonzaga team that had 2 of the top 25 players in the country in a single year. Not to mention a third guy who will probably be drafted when he comes out.
Because they play nobody from January to March, no one will believe in them and rightly so. What's their best non-con win this year? St John's? SMU at home? Should BYU really impress anyone?
I struggle to see who Kaminsky will defend. Okafor ate him for lunch in Madison earlier this year.
I feel horrible for whatever NBA franchises get either Frank or Dekker. And the Bucks will probably be the one to take Frank.If Steve Novak can't find the court besides for with the NYK, Frank has no chance. Frank is good in college because he's a threat to score inside and out. Does anybody think NBA defenders will get burned by his pump fake at the top of the key only to see Frank drive uncontested for a dunk like he does in college? Or can anybody see Frank catching the ball in the post and putting a spin move on Dwight Howard, leaving him behind for an uncontested dunk like he does in college? Sorry, but I don't see it. He'll be a shooter at the next level, and if Novak can't find the court with his jumper, Frank's not finding the court with his.
Let's give these guys at least a chance before we go and call them busts. Kaminsky and Dekker will probably both have better NBA careers than Novak.For a little perspective, Dekker shoots it better than Wes Matthews did in college. As for how Wes has shot in the NBA.. quite impressive. Take off the blinders, and stop acting like 21 year olds can't improve.
I'm sure they'll follow in the proud footsteps of Bo Ryan recruits in the NBA, like Alando Tucker, Jon Leuer, and Greg Stiemsma.Before you project them as better than Novak, realize how few guys play a decade in the league. I wouldn't be all that confident either of those two play that long or well.
I get it, Marquette has better NBA players, and that's definitely something to be proud of. However, I'm much more interested in what these guys do while they are still in college.
You come to talk trash about how good they'll be in the NBA then get butt hurt when someone calls you on your school's NBA history? Welcome to the internet. Maybe if you stopped trolling you wouldn't have these problems.
Heard that one before.