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Author Topic: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/1/2024?  (Read 1063522 times)

MarquetteVol

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5600 on: November 27, 2023, 11:39:58 AM »
I'm also curious how Kansas is ranked this week. One thing is for certain, we will be at least one slot ahead of them in the poll. And, I can't imagine them dropping to lower than #6.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5601 on: November 27, 2023, 12:01:38 PM »
#3. UCONN a close 4
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5602 on: November 27, 2023, 12:02:37 PM »
#3. UCONN a close 4

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5603 on: November 27, 2023, 12:02:48 PM »
#3. UCONN a close 4
2 voters have Connecticut #1 and 1 voter has Arizona #1. How does anyone honestly make a case for any team other than Purdue?

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5604 on: November 27, 2023, 12:03:23 PM »
2 voters have Connecticut #1 and 1 voter has Arizona #1. How does anyone honestly make a case for any team other than Purdue?

Easy
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5606 on: November 27, 2023, 12:04:48 PM »
Looks like the voters did well overall.  Can't complain.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5607 on: November 27, 2023, 12:05:22 PM »
You could definitely argue for #2, but #3 is a fair result. Well done by the scrubby AP voters.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5608 on: November 27, 2023, 12:06:02 PM »
Still incredibly amused by warriorfred thinking we'd be 7th. 

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5609 on: November 27, 2023, 12:06:10 PM »
Sidenote. I believe their is most an advance analytics have Marquette currently 6th ish.

KenPom 6, Evanmiya 6, Haslametrics 7, Torvik 9. Warren Nolan is at 2 with an ELO based ranking. Shotquality has us 3rd.

Those are all fair. 

The broader point, of course, there are a lot more smarter voters than in the past that factor in eye test and analytics.  Anyone not incorporating analytics into their votes are the suspect voters, imo.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5610 on: November 27, 2023, 12:07:19 PM »
#3 in the AP poll. Great job Warriors!

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5611 on: November 27, 2023, 12:10:06 PM »
This can’t be right - I don’t see Bucky listed, not even in the others receiving votes section.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5612 on: November 27, 2023, 12:14:39 PM »
This can’t be right - I don’t see Bucky listed, not even in the others receiving votes section.

So when we slaughter them Saturday, it won't even be considered a good road win.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5613 on: November 27, 2023, 12:29:03 PM »
Pretty much as most of the thinking folks here expected.

Those who thought Kansas would be ranked ahead of us because they're Kansas - ridiculous. Those who had us outside the top-5 - really ridiculous.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5614 on: November 27, 2023, 12:34:19 PM »

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5615 on: November 27, 2023, 12:41:32 PM »
#3 seems fair.  Surprised that UCLA didn’t get a little more love.  Their two losses were close and against MU & Gonzaga.  I expect to see them ranked soon and that will help our cause.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5617 on: November 27, 2023, 08:47:29 PM »
Jeff Neiburg says he has Kansas ahead of Marquette because they have better metrics.

https://x.com/jeff_neiburg/status/1729248632266727531?s=46&t=jxqs74xjrj0YOEifH9UtCw

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5618 on: November 27, 2023, 08:56:56 PM »
Jeff Neiburg says he has Kansas ahead of Marquette because they have better metrics.

https://x.com/jeff_neiburg/status/1729248632266727531?s=46&t=jxqs74xjrj0YOEifH9UtCw

Looking forward to Jeff telling us the next time metrics win a game.  🙄

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5619 on: November 27, 2023, 09:09:53 PM »
Jeff Neiburg says he has Kansas ahead of Marquette because they have better metrics.

https://x.com/jeff_neiburg/status/1729248632266727531?s=46&t=jxqs74xjrj0YOEifH9UtCw

Apparently Jeff doesn't have very good reading comprehension.

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1.) Purdue: 1
2.) Marquette: 2
3.) Tennessee: 3
4.) Kansas: 4
5.) Arizona: 6
6.) Duke: 16
7.) Creighton: 36
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5620 on: November 27, 2023, 10:20:31 PM »
Obviously Jeff hasn't checked out my metrics. Sorry, I know this is a pg13 rated site. Oopsie.  Fu*k 'Em. Stick your slide rule up your arse.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5621 on: November 28, 2023, 06:08:16 AM »
Jeff Neiburg says he has Kansas ahead of Marquette because they have better metrics.

https://x.com/jeff_neiburg/status/1729248632266727531?s=46&t=jxqs74xjrj0YOEifH9UtCw

It's just a misunderstanding of how metrics work. This is one of those problems with people using tools they don't really understand. Kansas is "ahead" of Marquette because they were the better metric team from 2019-2023. That's a pretty weak rationale for putting the 2024 Kansas team ahead of Marquette after seeing Marquette beat their ass.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5622 on: November 28, 2023, 06:21:04 AM »
The metrics that I am using via Barttovik are showing that Marquette isn't an underdog until January 30th @ Nova. Metrics also show they are predicted to just lost 3 more regular season games. @Nova, @Uconn and @Creighton all by less than 5 points

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5623 on: November 28, 2023, 06:53:37 AM »
Still incredibly amused by warriorfred thinking we'd be 7th.

Actually, I adjusted it to 6th after Creighton lost.  My rationale was most voters (1) are not "in tune" (diplomatic term) with quality wins and poor losses and have a tendency to focus merely on overall record, (2) there is an inherent bias toward Duke, and (3) yes, my fellow scoopers, Marquette may not get the recognition it deserves.

At least I showed my work and rationale.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/27/23?
« Reply #5624 on: November 28, 2023, 06:55:25 AM »
Very happy with a 3.  However, very reluctant to give credit to the voters . . .