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Title: Milwaukee Fab Five? How Good Would They Be?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on December 25, 2015, 11:31:15 AM
Quiet Christmas morning and I just finished watching (again) the ESPN 30 for 30 "Fab Five."  If you have not seen it, it is outstanding.  You can find it on Youtube, I highly recommend it.

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This got my thinking ... If this Milwaukee only line-up were all playing on the same team (of course MU!), how good would this team be?  Again all these guys would be technically eligible to play college BB this year and all are from Milwaukee.

G - Duane Wilson (MU)
F - Cinmeon Bowers (Auburn)
F - Kevon Looney (UCLA now NBA)
F - Jameel McKay (MU now ISU)
C - Diamond Stone (Maryland)

Bench

G - Denote Burton (MU now ISU)
C -  Phil Nolan (Uconn)
G -  Carrington Love (Green Bay)
F -   Jameer Hurdle (Green Bay)
F -  Elgin Cook (Oregon)
PF - Jaylen Key (NIU)
G -  Jarvis Garrett (Rhode Island)
G - Shy McCelelland (South Dakota)
PG - Johnnie Lacy (Providence, now Texas - Permian Basin)

My thought is this would be a top 10 team, maybe even around 5.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Milwaukee Fab Five? How Good Would They Be?
Post by: 4everwarriors on December 25, 2015, 11:39:01 AM
Front court's not bad, but ya need some playas who can fill it up from da outside. Maybe ring up Bo and let's see if he can help out, hey?
Title: Re: Milwaukee Fab Five? How Good Would They Be?
Post by: Stronghold on December 25, 2015, 11:50:34 AM
Would their ball handling skills be good enough?
Title: Re: Milwaukee Fab Five? How Good Would They Be?
Post by: jonny09 on December 25, 2015, 11:57:44 AM
No legit point would be painful
Title: Re: Milwaukee Fab Five? How Good Would They Be?
Post by: statnik on December 25, 2015, 12:16:43 PM
Yeah, you would definitely need a shooter in the starting lineup like Matt Thomas for ISU (or at least he should play big minutes to provide the spacing).
Title: Re: Milwaukee Fab Five? How Good Would They Be?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on December 25, 2015, 12:34:57 PM
Would their ball handling skills be good enough?

Johnnie Lacy, formerly of Providence (now Texas - Permian Basin) is still eligible.

Would that change things?
Title: Re: Milwaukee Fab Five? How Good Would They Be?
Post by: Stronghold on December 25, 2015, 12:37:20 PM
Johnnie Lacy, formerly of Providence (now Texas - Permian Basin) is still eligible.

Would that change things?

The name honestly doesn't ring a bell, who is he?
Title: Re: Milwaukee Fab Five? How Good Would They Be?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on December 25, 2015, 12:42:05 PM
The name honestly doesn't ring a bell, who is he?

From Milwaukee, was a MU target many years ago.  Left Milwaukee, went to ND Prep in Fitchberg MA.  Freshman year at Providence (2009 - 2010).  Had a falling out with Ed Cooley, left Providence.

Last four years did not play college ball.

Re-emerged as a Junior PG for Texas-Permian Basin. (25 now, will be 26 in Feb)

Bottom line, high D1 recruit with high D1 PG talent, MAJOR LEAGUE head case.
Title: Re: Milwaukee Fab Five? How Good Would They Be?
Post by: brewcity77 on December 25, 2015, 12:51:30 PM
What happened to Damontrae Jefferson? He was a teammate of Looney's at Hamilton. Went to a prep school, looks like he committed to Texas Southern, but isn't listed on their roster and hasn't played that I can see. Would fit the PG role, though he'd probably struggle defending bigger guards, and pretty much anyone Dominic James size and taller would count as a "bigger guard" for Jefferson ;D
Title: Re: Milwaukee Fab Five? How Good Would They Be?
Post by: wadesworld on December 25, 2015, 01:24:20 PM
Quiet Christmas morning and I just finished watching (again) the ESPN 30 for 30 "Fab Five."  If you have not seen it, it is outstanding.  You can find it on Youtube, I highly recommend it.

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This got my thinking ... If this Milwaukee only line-up were all playing on the same team (of course MU!), how good would this team be?  Again all these guys would be technically eligible to play college BB this year and all are from Milwaukee.

G - Duane Wilson (MU)
G - Denote Burton (MU now ISU)
F - Kevon Looney (UCLA now NBA)
F - Jameel McKay (MU now ISU)
C - Diamond Stone (Maryland)

Bench

C -  Phil Nolan (Uconn)
G -  Carrington Love (Green Bay)
F -   Jameer Hurdle (Green Bay)
F -  Elgin Cook (Oregon)
PF - Jaylen Key (NIU)
G -  Jarvis Garrett (Rhode Island)
G - Shy McCelelland (South Dakota)
PG - Johnnie Lacy (Providence, now Texas - Permian Basin)

My thought is this would be a top 10 team, maybe even around 5.

Thoughts?

I know this is all just to get your clicks up and everything, so logic goes out the window and you'll change your tune 15 different times in this thread, but why in the world would watching "The Fab 5" get you thinking about an all Milwaukee team?  The Fab 5 were made up of 2 players from Detroit, 1 player from Chicago, and 2 players from different parts of Texas (Plano and Austin).

Let me guess, you just happened to "forget" that it was actually Michigan State's "Flintstones" (of which has nothing to do with the Fab Five and doesn't have a 30 for 30 feature on) that might at least cause one to consider an all Milwaukee team, since they at least had 4 recruits all from Flint, MI (although 1 of them left the program before they won their National Title).
Title: Re: Milwaukee Fab Five? How Good Would They Be?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on December 25, 2015, 02:03:44 PM
What happened to Damontrae Jefferson? He was a teammate of Looney's at Hamilton. Went to a prep school, looks like he committed to Texas Southern, but isn't listed on their roster and hasn't played that I can see. Would fit the PG role, though he'd probably struggle defending bigger guards, and pretty much anyone Dominic James size and taller would count as a "bigger guard" for Jefferson ;D

I thought he was at Cleveland State.  However, he is not listed on the roster.
Title: Re: Milwaukee Fab Five? How Good Would They Be?
Post by: Freeport Warrior on December 25, 2015, 03:02:32 PM
Jefferson was always fun to watch, but don't know how well he would fit into any system. Many "attitude" kind of problems to say the least.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBLN-sOL6eU
Title: Re: Milwaukee Fab Five? How Good Would They Be?
Post by: Skitch on December 25, 2015, 04:38:10 PM
Isn't Riley LeChance from Milwaukee?
Title: Re: Milwaukee Fab Five? How Good Would They Be?
Post by: GooooMarquette on December 25, 2015, 05:24:01 PM
Isn't Riley LeChance from Milwaukee?

Brookfield.  Guess it'd depend on whether the criteria included just the city or the whole metro area.
Title: Re: Milwaukee Fab Five? How Good Would They Be?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on December 25, 2015, 06:22:46 PM
I used just the city
Title: Re: Milwaukee Fab Five? How Good Would They Be?
Post by: GGGG on December 25, 2015, 06:26:24 PM
I used just the city


No you didn't.

Key went to Homestead.  Stone lives in Tosa and went to Dominican. 

Title: Re: Milwaukee Fab Five? How Good Would They Be?
Post by: GGGG on December 25, 2015, 06:27:29 PM
Cinmeon Bowers of Auburn is another Milwaukee product.
Title: Re: Milwaukee Fab Five? How Good Would They Be?
Post by: wadesworld on December 25, 2015, 06:34:26 PM
Again, I don't understand what the Fab Five has anything to do with an "All (whatever city you so choose)" college basketball roster.
Title: Re: Milwaukee Fab Five? How Good Would They Be?
Post by: GGGG on December 25, 2015, 06:42:41 PM
Again, I don't understand what the Fab Five has anything to do with an "All (whatever city you so choose)" college basketball roster.


We get it.  He simply is adding his own twist to it for the sake of discussion.
Title: Re: Milwaukee Fab Five? How Good Would They Be?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on December 25, 2015, 08:09:24 PM
Cinmeon Bowers of Auburn is another Milwaukee product.

Racine

http://www.auburntigers.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/cinmeon_bowers_915628.html
Title: Re: Milwaukee Fab Five? How Good Would They Be?
Post by: GGGG on December 25, 2015, 08:12:32 PM
Racine

http://www.auburntigers.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/cinmeon_bowers_915628.html


He grew up in Milwaukee and went to Rufus King High School. 
Title: Re: Milwaukee Fab Five? How Good Would They Be?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on December 25, 2015, 08:20:38 PM

He grew up in Milwaukee and went to Rufus King High School.

Ok, I added him above.  I even made him a starter (Burton is now on the bench)

So how good is this team?  What would you think is its rank?
Title: Re: Milwaukee Fab Five? How Good Would They Be?
Post by: GGGG on December 25, 2015, 08:30:55 PM
Very weak backcourt.  Would struggle shooting and ball handling.
Title: Re: Milwaukee Fab Five? How Good Would They Be?
Post by: brewcity77 on December 26, 2015, 05:17:35 AM
I thought he was at Cleveland State.  However, he is not listed on the roster.

You may be thinking of Charlie Lee, another 5'8" Milwaukee product that played for Cleveland State, but he graduated last year.
Title: Re: Milwaukee Fab Five? How Good Would They Be?
Post by: GGGG on December 26, 2015, 06:05:07 AM
If you aren't going to put LaChance on the roster, Stone should be there either.
Title: Re: Milwaukee Fab Five? How Good Would They Be?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on December 26, 2015, 06:22:08 AM
If you aren't going to put LaChance on the roster, Stone should be there either.

LeChance has Brookfield listed as his hometown and his school.

If I add him, then I should also add Tokoto as he came out early and would still be eligible.
Title: Re: Milwaukee Fab Five? How Good Would They Be?
Post by: GGGG on December 26, 2015, 07:50:14 AM
Unless Stone's family moved, he grew up in Tosa and went to the Tosa schools until high school. 
Title: Re: Milwaukee Fab Five? How Good Would They Be?
Post by: brewcity77 on December 26, 2015, 08:10:28 AM
Stone's at least from Milwaukee County? That would bring in the Tosa schools, West Allis, and Dominican, among others. Would still leave guys like Tokoto and LaChance out, if we need someone to thumb our noses at.

I'd love to see current All-state teams. If you took say the 10 best players to build a team from each state, who would be kings? I have to imagine while Wisconsin might not be at the top of the heap, with a frontcourt that included Ellenson, Stone, Looney, Tokoto, Bowers, and McKay, along with Wilson, Koenig, LaChance, Love, and Garrett in the backcourt (and probably some I'm forgetting) you'd have a really good team.

Koenig and Garrett rotating at the point, Wilson, LaChance and Love off the ball, Tokoto at the three, and the four mammoths up front. I'd love to see the teams other states could put up.
Title: Re: Milwaukee Fab Five? How Good Would They Be?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on December 26, 2015, 09:10:20 AM
Unless Stone's family moved, he grew up in Tosa and went to the Tosa schools until high school.

This is the list I used

http://basketball.realgm.com/info/birth_cities/28/Milwaukee-WI-United-States
Title: Re: Milwaukee Fab Five? How Good Would They Be?
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 26, 2015, 10:17:12 AM
This is the list I used

http://basketball.realgm.com/info/birth_cities/28/Milwaukee-WI-United-States

Interesting that Johnnie Lacey still playing in the college ranks after his PC issues.

http://utpbfalcons.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=1613