collapse

Please Register - It's FREE!

The absolute only thing required for this FREE registration is a valid e-mail address.  We keep all your information confidential and will NEVER give or sell it to anyone else.
Login to get rid of this box (and ads) , or register NOW!


Author Topic: MAKE YOUR DUKE PREDICTIONS HERE  (Read 8417 times)

SoCalwarrior

  • Global Moderator
  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 1429
MAKE YOUR DUKE PREDICTIONS HERE
« on: November 21, 2010, 06:14:16 PM »
1. Total Game Points:
2. MU points:
3. Duke points:
4. TO's forced by MU:
5. TO's forced by Duke:
6. MU total made 3's:
7. MU top scorer and how many:
8. MU top assist man and how many:
9. MU top rebounder and how many:
10. MU top 3-point shooter and how many:

Bonus Question:1 point.  Predict Otule's combined points and rebounds.

4everwarriors

  • Registered User
  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 16020
Re: MAKE YOUR DUKE PREDICTIONS HERE
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2010, 06:39:50 PM »
1. Total Game Points: 147
2. MU points: 67
3. Duke points: 80
4. TO's forced by MU: 14
5. TO's forced by Duke: 16
6. MU total made 3's: 3
7. MU top scorer and how many: Crowder 17
8. MU top assist man and how many: Blue 6
9. MU top rebounder and how many: Crowder 7
10. MU top 3-point shooter and how many: Butler 2

Bonus Question:1 point.  Predict Otule's combined points and rebounds.  15

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

chapman

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 5746
Re: MAKE YOUR DUKE PREDICTIONS HERE
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2010, 06:52:05 PM »
1. Total Game Points: 155
2. MU points: 69
3. Duke points: 86
4. TO's forced by MU: 8
5. TO's forced by Duke: 16
6. MU total made 3's: 6
7. MU top scorer and how many: Butler 19
8. MU top assist man and how many: Buycks 5
9. MU top rebounder and how many: Crowder 8
10. MU top 3-point shooter and how many: Buycks 2

Bonus Question:1 point.  Predict Otule's combined points and rebounds. 8

ken8406

  • Starter
  • ***
  • Posts: 100
Re: MAKE YOUR DUKE PREDICTIONS HERE
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2010, 07:02:34 PM »
1. Total Game Points: 170
2. MU points: 87
3. Duke points:83
4. TO's forced by MU: 16
5. TO's forced by Duke: 22
6. MU total made 3's: 7
7. MU top scorer and how many: DJO 23
8. MU top assist man and how many: Buycks 5
9. MU top rebounder and how many: Butler 11
10. MU top 3-point shooter and how many: DJO 3

Bonus Question:1 point.  Predict Otule's combined points and rebounds. 16
« Last Edit: November 21, 2010, 07:04:07 PM by ken8406 »

copious1218

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 580
Re: MAKE YOUR DUKE PREDICTIONS HERE
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2010, 07:17:14 PM »
1. Total Game Points: 149
2. MU points: 71
3. Duke points:78
4. TO's forced by MU: 15
5. TO's forced by Duke: 15
6. MU total made 3's: 5
7. MU top scorer and how many: Butler 20
8. MU top assist man and how many: Buycks 7
9. MU top rebounder and how many: Crowder 7
10. MU top 3-point shooter and how many: Buycks 2

Bonus Question:1 point.  Predict Otule's combined points and rebounds. 13
« Last Edit: November 22, 2010, 12:16:00 PM by copious1218 »

wheresthecake?

  • Team Captain
  • ****
  • Posts: 312
Re: MAKE YOUR DUKE PREDICTIONS HERE
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2010, 08:10:59 PM »
1. Total Game Points:156
2. MU points:76
3. Duke points:80
4. TO's forced by MU:13
5. TO's forced by Duke:16
6. MU total made 3's:3
7. MU top scorer and how many:butler 22
8. MU top assist man and how many:vander 7
9. MU top rebounder and how many:crowder 10
10. MU top 3-point shooter and how many:buycks 2

Bonus Question:1 point.  Predict Otule's combined points and rebounds. 16

jeffreyweee

  • Team Captain
  • ****
  • Posts: 358
Re: MAKE YOUR DUKE PREDICTIONS HERE
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2010, 08:26:46 PM »
1. Total Game Points:
2. MU points:69
3. Duke points:74
4. TO's forced by MU:11
5. TO's forced by Duke:14
6. MU total made 3's:4
7. MU top scorer and how many:Butler 17
8. MU top assist man and how many:Blue 5
9. MU top rebounder and how many:Crowder 10
10. MU top 3-point shooter and how many: DJO 3

Bonus Question:1 point.  Predict Otule's combined points and rebounds: 4


pillardean

  • Team Captain
  • ****
  • Posts: 271
Re: MAKE YOUR DUKE PREDICTIONS HERE
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2010, 09:17:27 PM »
1. Total Game Points:  166
2. MU points: 79
3. Duke points: 87
4. TO's forced by MU: 12
5. TO's forced by Duke: 19
6. MU total made 3's: 9
7. MU top scorer and how many: Butler 24
8. MU top assist man and how many: Blue 7
9. MU top rebounder and how many: Crowder (getting that chowder) 11
10. MU top 3-point shooter and how many: Buycks 4

Bonus Question:1 point.  Predict Otule's combined points and rebounds.
 17
 
 
 
Marquette University, Spring '08

chren21

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 976
Re: MAKE YOUR DUKE PREDICTIONS HERE
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2010, 09:38:25 PM »
1. Total Game Points:152
2. MU points:72
3. Duke points:80
4. TO's forced by MU:12
5. TO's forced by Duke:14
6. MU total made 3's:6
7. MU top scorer and how many:Crowder 18
8. MU top assist man and how many:vander 6
9. MU top rebounder and how many:crowder 8
10. MU top 3-point shooter and how many: DJO 3

Bonus Question:1 point.  Predict Otule's combined points and rebounds. 11

MarquetteBamaFan

  • Scholarship Player
  • **
  • Posts: 63
Re: MAKE YOUR DUKE PREDICTIONS HERE
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2010, 12:07:45 AM »
1. Total Game Points: 136
2. MU points: 59
3. Duke points: 77
4. TO's forced by MU: 8
5. TO's forced by Duke: 14
6. MU total made 3's: 3
7. MU top scorer and how many: Butler 15
8. MU top assist man and how many: Buycks 4
9. MU top rebounder and how many: Crowder 9
10. MU top 3-point shooter and how many: Buycks 2

Bonus Question:1 point.  Predict Otule's combined points and rebounds. 5

caltruda

  • Guest
Re: MAKE YOUR DUKE PREDICTIONS HERE
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2010, 12:26:27 AM »
1. Total Game Points: 159
2. MU points: 72
3. Duke points: 87
4. TO's forced by MU: 13
5. TO's forced by Duke: 18
6. MU total made 3's: 5
7. MU top scorer and how many: Butler, 18
8. MU top assist man and how many: Buycks, 5
9. MU top rebounder and how many: Crowder, 9
10. MU top 3-point shooter and how many: Buycks, 2

Bonus Question:1 point.  Predict Otule's combined points and rebounds. 14

MU_83_florida

  • Starter
  • ***
  • Posts: 216
Re: MAKE YOUR DUKE PREDICTIONS HERE
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2010, 04:12:39 AM »
1. Total Game Points: 150
2. MU points:  78
3. Duke points:  72
4. TO's forced by MU: 16
5. TO's forced by Duke: 14
6. MU total made 3's: 5
7. MU top scorer and how many:  Butler, 22
8. MU top assist man and how many:  Buycks, 5
9. MU top rebounder and how many:  Crowder, 11
10. MU top 3-point shooter and how many:  DJO 3

Bonus Question:1 point.  Predict Otule's combined points and rebounds.  16

damuts222

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 858
    • Gangnam makes me loco
Re: MAKE YOUR DUKE PREDICTIONS HERE
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2010, 07:05:09 AM »
1. Total Game Points: 150
2. MU points:  65
3. Duke points:  69
4. TO's forced by MU: 13
5. TO's forced by Duke: 17
6. MU total made 3's: 5
7. MU top scorer and how many:  Butler, 16
8. MU top assist man and how many:  Blue 4
9. MU top rebounder and how many:  Butler 8
10. MU top 3-point shooter and how many:  DJO 3

Bonus Question:1 point.  Predict Otule's combined points and rebounds.  9
Twitta Tracka of the Year Award Recipient 2016

brewcity77

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 26499
  • Warning-This poster may trigger thin skinned users
    • Cracked Sidewalks
Re: MAKE YOUR DUKE PREDICTIONS HERE
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2010, 07:09:30 AM »
1. Total Game Points: 160
2. MU points: 82
3. Duke points: 78
4. TO's forced by MU: 19
5. TO's forced by Duke: 18
6. MU total made 3's: 6
7. MU top scorer and how many: DJO - 23
8. MU top assist man and how many: Blue - 7
9. MU top rebounder and how many: Butler - 8
10. MU top 3-point shooter and how many: DJO - 4

Bonus Question:1 point.  Predict Otule's combined points and rebounds. 15
This space reserved for a 2024 2025 National Championship celebration banner.

mileskishnish72

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 4553
Re: MAKE YOUR DUKE PREDICTIONS HERE
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2010, 08:11:47 AM »
Total pts - 147
MU pts - 65
Duke pts - 82
TO's forced by MU - 13
TO's forced by Duke - 17
MU made 3's - 3
MU top seorer - JFB, 17
MU top asst - VB, 6
MU top reb - Jae, 9
MU top 3-pt shooter - DJO, 2

Otule pts + reb - 12

Mobot

  • Team Captain
  • ****
  • Posts: 313
Re: MAKE YOUR DUKE PREDICTIONS HERE
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2010, 08:53:25 AM »
1. Total Game Points: 149
2. MU points: 66
3. Duke points: 83
4. TO's forced by MU: 8
5. TO's forced by Duke: 12
6. MU total made 3's: 4
7. MU top scorer and how many: Buycks 15
8. MU top assist man and how many: Buycks 5
9. MU top rebounder and how many: Crowder 8
10. MU top 3-point shooter and how many: Buycks 2

Bonus Question:1 point.  Predict Otule's combined points and rebounds. 16

Benny B

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 5969
Re: MAKE YOUR DUKE PREDICTIONS HERE
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2010, 09:02:15 AM »

1. Total Game Points: 163
2. MU points: 81
3. Duke points: 82
4. TO's forced by MU: 16
5. TO's forced by Duke: 19
6. MU total made 3's: 4
7. MU top scorer and how many: Butler 24
8. MU top assist man and how many: Buycks 6
9. MU top rebounder and how many: Crowder 11
10. MU top 3-point shooter and how many: Blue 2

Bonus Question:1 point.  Predict Otule's combined points and rebounds.  18
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

denverMU

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 1218
Re: MAKE YOUR DUKE PREDICTIONS HERE
« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2010, 09:55:14 AM »
1. Total Game Points: 163
2. MU points: 76
3. Duke points: 74
4. TO's forced by MU: 16
5. TO's forced by Duke: 14
6. MU total made 3's: 7
7. MU top scorer and how many: DJO 19
8. MU top assist man and how many: Blue 6
9. MU top rebounder and how many: Crowder 11
10. MU top 3-point shooter and how many: DJO 3

Bonus Question:1 point.  Predict Otule's combined points and rebounds. 14
 
 

StillAWarrior

  • Registered User
  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 4213
Re: MAKE YOUR DUKE PREDICTIONS HERE
« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2010, 09:56:25 AM »
1. Total Game Points:  132
2. MU points:  62
3. Duke points:  70
4. TO's forced by MU:  15
5. TO's forced by Duke:  21
6. MU total made 3's:  4
7. MU top scorer and how many:  Butler; 16
8. MU top assist man and how many:  Buycks; 5
9. MU top rebounder and how many:  Butler; 7
10. MU top 3-point shooter and how many:  Buycks; 2

Bonus Question:1 point.  Predict Otule's combined points and rebounds.  12
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

w0bbie

  • Starter
  • ***
  • Posts: 147
Re: MAKE YOUR DUKE PREDICTIONS HERE
« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2010, 10:08:03 AM »
1. Total Game Points:  165
2. MU points: 78
3. Duke points: 85
4. TO's forced by MU: 10
5. TO's forced by Duke: 15
6. MU total made 3's: 4
7. MU top scorer and how many: Butler - 22
8. MU top assist man and how many: Buycks - 6
9. MU top rebounder and how many: Crowder - 9
10. MU top 3-point shooter and how many: Buycks - 2

Bonus Question:1 point.  Predict Otule's combined points and rebounds.
9

2628ches

  • Walk-On
  • *
  • Posts: 1
Re: MAKE YOUR DUKE PREDICTIONS HERE
« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2010, 10:39:30 AM »
1. Total Game Points:  132
2. MU points: 53
3. Duke points: 79
4. TO's forced by MU: 14
5. TO's forced by Duke: 24
6. MU total made 3's: 5
7. MU top scorer and how many: Butler - 18
8. MU top assist man and how many: Buycks - 6
9. MU top rebounder and how many: Crowder -8
10. MU top 3-point shooter and how many: DJO - 3

Bonus Question:1 point.  Predict Otule's combined points and rebounds.
8

drewm88

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 1687
Re: MAKE YOUR DUKE PREDICTIONS HERE
« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2010, 10:43:09 AM »
1. Total Game Points:  144
2. MU points: 74
3. Duke points: 70
4. TO's forced by MU: 15
5. TO's forced by Duke: 12
6. MU total made 3's: 5
7. MU top scorer and how many: Butler 20
8. MU top assist man and how many: Buycks 5
9. MU top rebounder and how many: Butler 8
10. MU top 3-point shooter and how many: DJO 3

Bonus Question:1 point.  Predict Otule's combined points and rebounds.
10

wyoMUfan

  • Team Captain
  • ****
  • Posts: 458
Re: MAKE YOUR DUKE PREDICTIONS HERE
« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2010, 11:39:00 AM »
1. Total Game Points:153
2. MU points:79
3. Duke points:74
4. TO's forced by MU:16
5. TO's forced by Duke:15
6. MU total made 3's:7
7. MU top scorer and how many:Crowder 18
8. MU top assist man and how many:Blue 7
9. MU top rebounder and how many:Otule 11
10. MU top 3-point shooter and how many:Buycks 3

Bonus Question:1 point.  Predict Otule's combined points and rebounds: 23

Jay Bee

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 9079
Re: MAKE YOUR DUKE PREDICTIONS HERE
« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2010, 11:45:31 AM »
1. Total Game Points: 142
2. MU points: 74
3. Duke points: 68
4. TO's forced by MU: 14
5. TO's forced by Duke: 11
6. MU total made 3's: 8
7. MU top scorer and how many: DJO 21
8. MU top assist man and how many: Buycks 4
9. MU top rebounder and how many: Crowder 8
10. MU top 3-point shooter and how many: DJO 3

Bonus Question:1 point.  Predict Otule's combined points and rebounds. 11
Thanks for ruining summer, Canada.

scowwarrior

  • Scholarship Player
  • **
  • Posts: 86
Re: MAKE YOUR DUKE PREDICTIONS HERE
« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2010, 11:56:35 AM »
1. Total Game Points:172
2. MU points:90
3. Duke points:82
4. TO's forced by MU:17
5. TO's forced by Duke:9
6. MU total made 3's:6
7. MU top scorer and how many:Butler 22
8. MU top assist man and how many:Blue 6
9. MU top rebounder and how many: Crowder 15
10. MU top 3-point shooter and how many: Buycks 5

Bonus Question:1 point.  Predict Otule's combined points and rebounds.  26
 
 
 
 

2TimeWarrior

  • Starter
  • ***
  • Posts: 172
Re: MAKE YOUR DUKE PREDICTIONS HERE
« Reply #25 on: November 22, 2010, 11:58:56 AM »
1. Total Game Points: 160
2. MU points: 72
3. Duke points: 88
4. TO's forced by MU: 11
5. TO's forced by Duke: 17
6. MU total made 3's: 4
7. MU top scorer and how many: Butler 19
8. MU top assist man and how many: Blue 7
9. MU top rebounder and how many: Butler 8
10. MU top 3-point shooter and how many: Blue 2

Bonus Question:1 point.  Predict Otule's combined points and rebounds.  16


MerrittsMustache

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 4676
Re: MAKE YOUR DUKE PREDICTIONS HERE
« Reply #26 on: November 22, 2010, 12:50:45 PM »
1. Total Game Points: 150
2. MU points: 70
3. Duke points: 80
4. TO's forced by MU: 12
5. TO's forced by Duke: 15
6. MU total made 3's: 6
7. MU top scorer and how many: DJO 16
8. MU top assist man and how many: Buycks 4
9. MU top rebounder and how many: Butler 7
10. MU top 3-point shooter and how many: DJO 2

Bonus Question:1 point.  Predict Otule's combined points and rebounds. 13


[/quote]

Clam Crowder

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 1314
Re: MAKE YOUR DUKE PREDICTIONS HERE
« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2010, 12:54:35 PM »
1. Total Game Points:150
2. MU points:68
3. Duke points:82
4. TO's forced by MU:12
5. TO's forced by Duke:15
6. MU total made 3's:5
7. MU top scorer and how many:DJO 22
8. MU top assist man and how many:Vander 7
9. MU top rebounder and how many:Jae 11
10. MU top 3-point shooter and how many:DJO 3

Bonus Question:1 point.  Predict Otule's combined points and rebounds. 14

flash

  • Team Captain
  • ****
  • Posts: 412
Re: MAKE YOUR DUKE PREDICTIONS HERE
« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2010, 01:02:48 PM »
1. Total Game Points:129
2. MU points:65
3. Duke points:64
4. TO's forced by MU:15
5. TO's forced by Duke:14
6. MU total made 3's:4
7. MU top scorer and how many:Butler 17
8. MU top assist man and how many:Blue 4
9. MU top rebounder and how many:Crowder 11
10. MU top 3-point shooter and how many:DJO 2

Bonus Question:1 point.  Predict Otule's combined points and rebounds.
7

NCAARules

  • Starter
  • ***
  • Posts: 201
Re: MAKE YOUR DUKE PREDICTIONS HERE
« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2010, 01:19:01 PM »
1. Total Game Points: 162
2. MU points: 70
3. Duke points: 79
4. TO's forced by MU: 15
5. TO's forced by Duke: 18
6. MU total made 3's: 5
7. MU top scorer and how many: Buycks, 17
8. MU top assist man and how many: Buycks, 5
9. MU top rebounder and how many: Crowder, 8
10. MU top 3-point shooter and how many: Buycks, 3

Bonus Question:1 point.  Predict Otule's combined points and rebounds.
15

muhoosier260

  • Registered User
  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 917
Re: MAKE YOUR DUKE PREDICTIONS HERE
« Reply #30 on: November 22, 2010, 03:29:09 PM »
1. Total Game Points: 155
2. MU points: 71
3. Duke points: 83
4. TO's forced by MU: 13
5. TO's forced by Duke: 18
6. MU total made 3's: 4
7. MU top scorer and how many: Crowder, 16
8. MU top assist man and how many: Blue, 6
9. MU top rebounder and how many: Otule, 9
10. MU top 3-point shooter and how many: Buycks, 2

Bonus Question:1 point.  Predict Otule's combined points and rebounds.
22

TillysDad

  • Walk-On
  • *
  • Posts: 35
Re: MAKE YOUR DUKE PREDICTIONS HERE
« Reply #31 on: November 22, 2010, 03:55:10 PM »
1. Total Game Points:152
2. MU points:71
3. Duke points:81
4. TO's forced by MU:11
5. TO's forced by Duke:18
6. MU total made 3's:5
7. MU top scorer and how many:JFB, 19
8. MU top assist man and how many:Buycks 5
9. MU top rebounder and how many:Crowder 10
10. MU top 3-point shooter and how many:Buycks 2

Bonus Question:1 point.  Predict Otule's combined points and rebounds.10

Dr. Blackheart

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 13061
Re: MAKE YOUR DUKE PREDICTIONS HERE
« Reply #32 on: November 22, 2010, 03:57:30 PM »
1. Total Game Points: 155
2. MU points: 67
3. Duke points: 80
4. TO's forced by MU: 11
5. TO's forced by Duke: 14
6. MU total made 3's: 4
7. MU top scorer and how many: Butler 17
8. MU top assist man and how many: Buyckes  5
9. MU top rebounder and how many: Crowder  8
10. MU top 3-point shooter and how many: Buycks, 2

Bonus Question:1 point.  Predict Otule's combined points and rebounds.
15

MU B2002

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 2112
  • Father to future alums in 2029 & 2037.
Re: MAKE YOUR DUKE PREDICTIONS HERE
« Reply #33 on: November 22, 2010, 04:08:11 PM »
1. Total Game Points: 150
2. MU points: 70
3. Duke points: 80
4. TO's forced by MU: 13
5. TO's forced by Duke: 15
6. MU total made 3's: 6
7. MU top scorer and how many: DJO 24
8. MU top assist man and how many: Blue 7
9. MU top rebounder and how many: Crowder 9
10. MU top 3-point shooter and how many: DJO 3

Bonus Question:1 point.  Predict Otule's combined points and rebounds. 6
"VPI"
- Mike Hunt

spartan3186

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 901
Re: MAKE YOUR DUKE PREDICTIONS HERE
« Reply #34 on: November 22, 2010, 04:47:38 PM »
1. Total Game Points: 145
2. MU points: 70
3. Duke points: 75
4. TO's forced by MU: 10
5. TO's forced by Duke: 14
6. MU total made 3's: 6
7. MU top scorer and how many: Crowder 17
8. MU top assist man and how many: Buycks 6
9. MU top rebounder and how many: Crowder 8
10. MU top 3-point shooter and how many: Buycks 3

Bonus Question:1 point.  Predict Otule's combined points and rebounds.

11

HylianHero

  • Scholarship Player
  • **
  • Posts: 60
Re: MAKE YOUR DUKE PREDICTIONS HERE
« Reply #35 on: November 22, 2010, 05:39:58 PM »
1. Total Game Points: 153
2. MU points: 73
3. Duke points: 80
4. TO's forced by MU: 13
5. TO's forced by Duke: 18
6. MU total made 3's: 4
7. MU top scorer and how many: Crowder 15
8. MU top assist man and how many: Buycks 5
9. MU top rebounder and how many: Crowder 9
10. MU top 3-point shooter and how many: Buycks 2

Bonus Question:1 point.  Predict Otule's combined points and rebounds.
14

TallTitan34

  • Registered User
  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 9338
  • Gold N. Eagle (Ret.), Two Time SI Cover Model
    • Marquette Overload
Re: MAKE YOUR DUKE PREDICTIONS HERE
« Reply #36 on: November 22, 2010, 06:08:01 PM »
1. Total Game Points: 150
2. MU points: 70
3. Duke points: 85
4. TO's forced by MU: 17
5. TO's forced by Duke: 22
6. MU total made 3's: 4
7. MU top scorer and how many: Butler 21
8. MU top assist man and how many: Blue 6
9. MU top rebounder and how many: Crowder 7
10. MU top 3-point shooter and how many: Buycks 2

Bonus Question:1 point.  Predict Otule's combined points and rebounds. 15

 

feedback