RE: Notre Dame hate thread

[Warrior Code]

In response to http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=44587.0

I graduated from and love all things Marquette. I did, however, grow up in a Midwest Irish Catholic household watching Notre Dame football every Saturday. I have been to a dozen games or more and have no problem wearing an ND shirt. I will state for the record that the football squad is the only Irish team I will support (and to a far lesser extent hockey, but I don't follow cawlidge hawkey much). I can't stand ND basketball or their slicked-back, mock-turtle-wearing coach, Mike Brey. Can't stand Digger, either.


My question to you is this: am I a bad person?

[Warrior Code]

If you have to ask, the answer is probably yes.

[real chili 83]

What year did you graduate from MU?

[Warrior Code]

2012

[real chili 83]

I ask because if you were a 70's or even early 80's grad, ND's football program was more blue collar back then, and less douchebaggy.  I had a couple of friends and neighbors that played on the team.  They were good guys.

Now days, anyone who roots for the Manti Te'o, on NBC every frickin' Saturday, we're god's team, Lou Holtz and after era.......is rootin' for the ND we all hate.  That era of ND football doesn't get a pass.

[mu_hilltopper]

For starting up another ND Hate Thread thread .. yes, you are a bad person.

[Coleman]

The short answer is yes.

[Warrior Code]

(Sigh)

[Galway Eagle]

Maybe it's cause my moms an Irish immigrant not irish American but I never understood the whole "I'm irish so I love ND" mentality.  Am I the only one who sees a school with a French name and a mascot that perpetuates a negative stereotype of Irish people (that's coming from a short, extremely white, first generation irish, boxer so I know this stereotype very well)

[Chicago_inferiority_complexes]

Maybe it's cause my moms an Irish immigrant not irish American but I never understood the whole "I'm irish so I love ND" mentality.  Am I the only one who sees a school with a French name and a mascot that a) perpetuates a negative stereotype of Irish people (that's coming from a short, extremely white, first generation irish, boxer so I know this stereotype very well)

Yeah how the hell does a school with a French name, named after a Paris cathedral get tied in with an Irish mascot? (Please don't tell me, I don't want to know.)

[GooooMarquette]

Yeah how the hell does a school with a French name, named after a Paris cathedral get tied in with an Irish mascot? (Please don't tell me, I don't want to know.)

Maybe the original intent was to be "Notre Dame Fighting the Irish."

[ErickJD08]

I am a ND football fan myself.  Since MU has no football team, I think MU students/alums should be able to cheer for anyone without any browbeating. 

[Coleman]

I am a ND football fan myself.  Since MU has no football team, I think MU students/alums should be able to cheer for anyone besides Notre Dame or UW without any browbeating. 

Fixed it for you

[MUfan12]

I have a hard time cheering for any college football team, but when I do, I cheer for whoever plays UW and ND.

The whole sport sickens me, to be honest. The more it grows, the more likely that basketball only schools get put to the sword.

[Chicago_inferiority_complexes]

I have a hard time cheering for any college football team, but when I do, I cheer for whoever plays UW and ND.

The whole sport sickens me, to be honest. The more it grows, the more likely that basketball only schools get put to the sword.

Football or just college football?

But I agree. I kind of despise college/professional football. I'm ahead of the curve, though. I was hating the Packers (as a Wisconsin kid) 20 years ago. ;-)

[Galway Eagle]

Fixed it for you

Exactly what I was thinking of doing.  To me were always going to get shot down by Madison kids who feel that they're at a superior school (many programs might be but it's not like it's Harvard) and in terms I private schools in the Midwest MU is always going to play second fiddle to ND and so were going to get crap from them.  Just like how we crap on DePaul and Loyola kids who crap on...

[Coleman]

Maybe it will change over time since we are no longer in the same conference as ND and won't play them every year now, but when we were in the same conference as them and rivals on the hardwood it completely boggled my mind as to how some MU students were able to compartmentalize their fandom so much as to be able to cheer for them on the football field literally 2 months before we screamed vulgarities towards their basketball team and students.

[rocket surgeon]

I ask because if you were a 70's or even early 80's grad, ND's football program was more blue collar back then, and less douchebaggy.  I had a couple of friends and neighbors that played on the team.  They were good guys.

Now days, anyone who roots for the Manti Te'o, on NBC every frickin' Saturday, we're god's team, Lou Holtz and after era.......is rootin' for the ND we all hate.  That era of ND football doesn't get a pass.

perfectly stated-the digger phelps, kelly triPUCKA era-that was a real guttural, spit up in the mouth kinda hate.  doc rivers buzzer beater in 1981...i'm still hung over from that one
 http://www.gomarquette.com/blog/2012/06/-throwback-thursday-is-a.html

[Warrior Code]

Maybe it will change over time since we are no longer in the same conference as ND and won't play them every year now, but when we were in the same conference as them and rivals on the hardwood it completely boggled my mind as to how some MU students were able to compartmentalize their fandom so much as to be able to cheer for them on the football field literally 2 months before we screamed vulgarities towards their basketball team and students.

I could not logically explain it,  but I found it to be quite easy. But I grew up an ND football fan my whole life and did not grow up a Marquette fan (I mostly watched Illinois and Bradley during basketball season). That said, my zeal for MU hoops has far surpassed anything I've ever felt for the Irish.
*/end digging myself deeper*

[swoopem]

For you guys who hate on college football, and I guess this is directed more towards younger grads, what do you do on Saturdays during the fall? I love going to bars or parties and watching some football, even if I don't care who's playing. For the most part there is always a match-up that I'm interested in and try to make some time to watch.

[WI inferiority Complexes]

For you guys who hate on college football, and I guess this is directed more towards younger grads, what do you do on Saturdays during the fall? .

Smoke grass.

I've never been into college football, (I'm only a moderate NFL fan, as well).

[🏀]

For you guys who hate on college football, and I guess this is directed more towards younger grads, what do you do on Saturdays during the fall? I love going to bars or parties and watching some football, even if I don't care who's playing. For the most part there is always a match-up that I'm interested in and try to make some time to watch.

Get piss drunk playing video games all day, Lakefront tours all afternoon or playing drinking games.

[Galway Eagle]

For you guys who hate on college football, and I guess this is directed more towards younger grads, what do you do on Saturdays during the fall? I love going to bars or parties and watching some football, even if I don't care who's playing. For the most part there is always a match-up that I'm interested in and try to make some time to watch.

Women.

[tower912]

Women.

Getting off of the couch and talking to real live women instead of texting and skyping them?    What a concept.    I didn't realize the younger generation still did that.

[Spotcheck Billy]

For you guys who hate on college football, and I guess this is directed more towards younger grads, what do you do on Saturdays during the fall? I love going to bars or parties and watching some football, even if I don't care who's playing. For the most part there is always a match-up that I'm interested in and try to make some time to watch.

ride my Harley while the weather still holds