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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: 4everwarriors on February 18, 2022, 12:21:34 PM
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Hey?
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Hey?
Ever consider moving away from all these scary people?
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I don't make the problems. Just want to make those aware near campus. Don't shoot the messenger, aina?
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I don't make the problems. Just want make those aware near campus. Don't shoot the messenger, aina?
Thank you for your service.
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Ooohh, that guy looks scary.
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Ooohh, that guy looks scary.
We all know he'd do the same if it was a white guy.
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I really think you might be happier if you logged off. Like a dry January... but for the internet.
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Jockey
Like Doc, I am concerned about safety on the campus. These alerts are becoming more and more common and only an idiot would ignore them. As for if the alert was a white guy, my gut says Doc would make the same post. I have no idea why everyone on here takes things away from the intended message. Wait, I do have an idea and for many on here that will never change.
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Jockey
Like Doc, I am concerned about safety on the campus. These alerts are becoming more and more common and only an idiot would ignore them. As for if the alert was a white guy, my gut says Doc would make the same post. I have no idea why everyone on here takes things away from the intended message. Wait, I do have an idea and for many on here that will never change.
4ever posting of these campus alerts are to continue pissing matches on Scoop. That's it.
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I'm curious, were the dentists enormous, terrified hairy wet cats when they actually attended MU, too? Or did it just kind of creep up on you in your old age as Fox drilled into your head how scary black and brown people are?
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Any Police Department that puts out a flyer alert for a subject that has a "stay away trespassing" order must be extremely bored.
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Jockey
Like Doc, I am concerned about safety on the campus. These alerts are becoming more and more common and only an idiot would ignore them. As for if the alert was a white guy, my gut says Doc would make the same post. I have no idea why everyone on here takes things away from the intended message. Wait, I do have an idea and for many on here that will never change.
Goose,
Everybody has concerns for their safety. Random crime can occur anywhere. But we have a couple of people on the board who want to always "remind us" of who the real criminals are.
So if you are wondering why I and a few others make comments like these, get past black/white. The biggest driver of crime is poverty - not skin color.
(This post is in no way meant to include you among these posters.)
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And really, does this alert need its own thread?
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And really, does this alert need its own thread?
I mean that guy trespassed on campus, you can't just let that slide.
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And really, does this alert need its own thread?
It’s gotten the response intended
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Suspicious is right. I'm 5'6 and I can't get near 130 lbs to save my life.
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Funny….growing up in poverty never made me commit crimes….family foundation has much more to do with it. No fathers around might have something to do with that…I’m sure poverty was directly correlated to this guy trespassing.
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4ever posting of these campus alerts are to continue pissing matches on Scoop. That's it.
Agreed and they don't need separate posts in any way. Then again, neither do countless posts about articles that do nothing but seek to toss fire on existing political debates here.
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Funny….growing up in poverty never made me commit crimes….family foundation has much more to do with it. No fathers around might have something to do with that…I’m sure poverty was directly correlated to this guy trespassing.
Yeah, there are a lot of absentee fathers in rural America and is almost certainly a reason for the opioid crisis that is ravaging those communities
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Funny….growing up in poverty never made me commit crimes….family foundation has much more to do with it. No fathers around might have something to do with that…I’m sure poverty was directly correlated to this guy trespassing.
Hold on. You don’t think there is a correlation between poverty and crime because you grew up in poverty and didn’t commit crimes???
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I hear somebody exposed himself on the Marquette campus and took a leak on university property.
Oh wait ... he was just an MU student. One of about 100 who commits such a crime every Saturday night.
White, rich, suburban males ... that campus crime wave is terrible!
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Hold on. You don’t think there is a correlation between poverty and crime because you grew up in poverty and didn’t commit crimes???
Is there a correlation? More than likely. Has it become a convenient excuse amongst the SJW and virtue signaling crowd to apologize for certain segments of society that commit crimes? Hell yes.
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4ever posting of these campus alerts are to continue pissing matches on Scoop. That's it.
+100.
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Is there a correlation? More than likely. Has it become a convenient excuse amongst the SJW and virtue signaling crowd to apologize for certain segments of society that commit crimes? Hell yes.
I believe that’s called the bigotry of low expectations.
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SJW 😂
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SJW 😂
What? It's one of Tucker's Top Ten Terms. Respect it!
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Is there a correlation? More than likely.
Thank you.
Has it become a convenient excuse amongst the SJW and virtue signaling crowd to apologize for certain segments of society that commit crimes? Hell yes.
Nonsense words strung together that don't mean anything.
I believe that’s called the bigotry of low expectations.
Said the guy who made the original moronic statement.
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Interesting. This is the first campus alert that 4ever has posted that had a photo and/or a description of the culprit.
Yet the libs of scoop all assume that it's a black guy every time. Wonder why that is?
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Interesting. This is the first campus alert that 4ever has posted that had a photo and/or a description of the culprit.
Yet the libs of scoop all assume that it's a black guy every time. Wonder why that is?
Bingo
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Interesting. This is the first campus alert that 4ever has posted that had a photo and/or a description of the culprit.
Yet the libs of scoop all assume that it's a black guy every time. Wonder why that is?
Huh? No one stated that assumption.
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4ever posting of these campus alerts are to continue pissing matches on Scoop. That's it.
nope! what he's trying to say is these incidents are occurring unfortunately, more often than many would like to admit. ya see, some of us still have a vested interest in our alma mater. we're are hoping the change of guards in mke will make fighting crime and getting rid of sissy DA's will be a top priority. setting bail higher than BLM can pay, although they do have quite the war chest and budding real estate developments
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nope! what he's trying to say is these incidents are occurring unfortunately, more often than many would like to admit. ya see, some of us still have a vested interest in our alma mater. we're are hoping the change of guards in mke will make fighting crime and getting rid of sissy DA's will be a top priority. setting bail higher than BLM can pay, although they do have quite the war chest and budding real estate developments
8 of 10
Another fine endorsement of the Marquette education.
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nope! what he's trying to say is these incidents are occurring unfortunately, more often than many would like to admit. ya see, some of us still have a vested interest in our alma mater. we're are hoping the change of guards in mke will make fighting crime and getting rid of sissy DA's will be a top priority. setting bail higher than BLM can pay, although they do have quite the war chest and budding real estate developments
You realize that crime is up everywhere. In cities run by mayors of all political parties. Right?
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You realize that crime is up everywhere. In cities run by mayors of all political parties. Right?
Well, to make this personal. About a month ago, my vehicle was stolen from a public parking lot in Aurora, CO, which is run by a republican. A couple weeks ago it was retrieved from a Starbucks parking lot by the police in Lakewood, CO which is run by a non-partisan Mayor.
So I think it's clear who controls crime in this country.
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Well, to make this personal. About a month ago, my vehicle was stolen from a public parking lot in Aurora, CO, which is run by a republican. A couple weeks ago it was retrieved from a Starbucks parking lot by the police in Lakewood, CO which is run by a non-partisan Mayor.
So I think it's clear who controls crime in this country.
Crime occurs in every city, republican run or democrat run. What happens when the criminals are caught in each city?
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Crime occurs in every city, republican run or democrat run. What happens when the criminals are caught in each city?
27/30 of the top populated cities in the USA are run by a Dem Mayor. But your question is a good one. What actually is happening in these cities once the criminal is caught and what needs to be done to get this situation under control?
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27/30 of the top populated cities in the USA are run by a Dem Mayor. But your question is a good one. What actually is happening in these cities once the criminal is caught and what needs to be done to get this situation under control?
In Chicago, Kim Fox let’s them off. Need a massive regime change.
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This country definitely needs more people incarcerated.
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Crime occurs in every city, republican run or democrat run. What happens when the criminals are caught in each city?
I think you misunderstood. Starbucks is the problem.
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In Chicago, Kim Fox let’s them off. Need a massive regime change.
Black Lives Matter
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This country definitely needs more people incarcerated.
Where to put them and who will stand guard?
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Where to put them and who will stand guard?
Let immigrants build the prisons and become prison guards. That way, we don’t have to pay them a living wage
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Where to put them and who will stand guard?
I agree. The entire prison system should be abolished. Like AOC says, Keeping people in jails is mean.
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27/30 of the top populated cities in the USA are run by a Dem Mayor. But your question is a good one. What actually is happening in these cities once the criminal is caught and what needs to be done to get this situation under control?
It’s often not the cities that determine this. But in general we lock up too many people for the wrong things. Jails and prisons should be saved for the most violent threats to society. Too often we lock people up at great cost for things that just aren’t that much of a threat.
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It’s often not the cities that determine this. But in general we lock up too many people for the wrong things. Jails and prisons should be saved for the most violent threats to society. Too often we lock people up at great cost for things that just aren’t that much of a threat.
We lock people up for the crime of being poor far too much
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It’s often not the cities that determine this. But in general we lock up too many people for the wrong things. Jails and prisons should be saved for the most violent threats to society. Too often we lock people up at great cost for things that just aren’t that much of a threat.
Yeah, like the ass hole who shoulda been locked up, but instead decided to take a joyride thru the Waukesha Christmas parade, aina?
#motherfooker
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27/30 of the top populated cities in the USA are run by a Dem Mayor. But your question is a good one. What actually is happening in these cities once the criminal is caught and what needs to be done to get this situation under control?
Depends. What's the crime?
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It’s often not the cities that determine this. But in general we lock up too many people for the wrong things. Jails and prisons should be saved for the most violent threats to society. Too often we lock people up at great cost for things that just aren’t that much of a threat.
So are saying because people are being "locked up for the wrong things" the system is turning them into violent criminals after they get out? Crime is completely out of control, that's the bottom line. Forget the politics, this impacts everyone. Especially those in impoverished neighborhoods. Again, how do we get this turned around? What are the actual policy prescriptions?
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So are saying because people are being "locked up for the wrong things" the system is turning them into violent criminals after they get out? Crime is completely out of control, that's the bottom line. Forget the politics, this impacts everyone. Especially those in impoverished neighborhoods. Again, how do we get this turned around? What are the actual policy prescriptions?
More jails and guns
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Nah Muggy, the liberals will never get it, hey?
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So are saying because people are being "locked up for the wrong things" the system is turning them into violent criminals after they get out? Crime is completely out of control, that's the bottom line. Forget the politics, this impacts everyone. Especially those in impoverished neighborhoods. Again, how do we get this turned around? What are the actual policy prescriptions?
Crime is not really "out of control." It was way worse 20 or 30 years ago. Sure it is getting worse, but hyperbolic statements like this just aren't helpful.
Anyway, what I am saying is that we are overwhelming the courts and the prison system with people that we can humanely deal with in other ways. Let's keep the people in jail that are truly a threat to society.
Look at the graph here:
https://www.prisonpolicy.org/reports/pie2020.html
We have 470,000 people in jail who haven't been convicted of anything - because they can't make bail. Of those, only 150,000 are accused of violent offenses and very likely should stay there. That's 300,000 people in jail who have been merely accused yet not convicted of non-violent crimes. Why is it smart for us to allocate resources like this?
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Nah muggy, the Fox News generation will never get it
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Plenty of evidence that low or no bail does not contribute to quality of life
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/man-arrested-3-times-within-16-hours-in-glendale/
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Plenty of evidence that low or no bail does not contribute to quality of life
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/man-arrested-3-times-within-16-hours-in-glendale/
"Plenty of evidence" is one news story? Usually if someone prefaces a statement that way I'd be expecting, you know, actual data.
Maybe there actually is "plenty of evidence", I don't know...but I do know this isn't it.
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Yeah, like the ass hole who shoulda been locked up, but instead decided to take a joyride thru the Waukesha Christmas parade, aina?
#motherfooker
Hey, stop speaking ill of the car.
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Plenty of evidence that low or no bail does not contribute to quality of life
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/man-arrested-3-times-within-16-hours-in-glendale/
Actual evidence
"There's no clear evidence linking bail reforms -- which have been in place for years in some cities -- to the recent rise in violent crimes. In fact, the majority of cities that have seen increases in crime have not eliminated cash bail."
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/07/politics/bail-reform-violent-crime-fact-check/index.html
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I agree. The entire prison system should be abolished. Like AOC says, Keeping people in jails is mean.
It's inefficient and ineffective. Solve the societal problems. But we don't want to do that.
Neofeudalism must continue!
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Actual evidence
"There's no clear evidence linking bail reforms -- which have been in place for years in some cities -- to the recent rise in violent crimes. In fact, the majority of cities that have seen increases in crime have not eliminated cash bail."
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/07/politics/bail-reform-violent-crime-fact-check/index.html
Wow, a partisan anti-bail and anti incarceration group came up with that conclusion?p which they set out to come to? Stunning.
the left-leaning Prison Policy Initiative, a criminal justice reform think tank
Here’s something from actual academics:
https://dc.law.utah.edu/scholarship/194/
this article says *only* 4% are rearrested for violent crime. When “it’s only 3400 people who were the victims of violent crime, get over it and close prisons” is your response, maybe it isn’t as clear cut as you want it to be.
https://nynmedia.com/content/new-data-proves-bail-reform-both-worked-and-failed-depending-who-you-ask
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It seems kinda anti-liberty to have hundreds of thousands of people in jail, who haven’t been convicted of anything, simply because the government claims they should be there. 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
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Wow, a partisan anti-bail and anti incarceration group came up with that conclusion?p which they set out to come to? Stunning.
the left-leaning Prison Policy Initiative, a criminal justice reform think tank
Here’s something from actual academics:
https://dc.law.utah.edu/scholarship/194/
this article says *only* 4% are rearrested for violent crime. When “it’s only 3400 people who were the victims of violent crime, get over it and close prisons” is your response, maybe it isn’t as clear cut as you want it to be.
https://nynmedia.com/content/new-data-proves-bail-reform-both-worked-and-failed-depending-who-you-ask
And in classic fashion, you argue ad hominem rather than evidence.
Here's more evidence for ya, based on a study of Cook County when it enacted bail reform.
GO18.8A also had no impact on new criminal activity or new violent criminal activity of those defendants released pretrial. Overall, the probability of new criminal activity remained at roughly 17% before and after GO18.8A.
Similarly, the probability of new violent criminal activity remained constant at just 3% before and after GO18.8A.
And overall crimes rates in Chicago – including violent crime rates – were not any higher than expected after the implementation of GO18.8A.
http://www.safetyandjusticechallenge.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Report-Dollars-and-Sense-in-Cook-County.pdf
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It seems kinda anti-liberty to have hundreds of thousands of people in jail, who haven’t been convicted of anything, simply because the government claims they should be there. 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
It also seems anti-common sense to let out those whose victims are scared to death the criminals will return, or those whose victim’s families are grieving because their loved one was killed or raped and some milquetoast prosecutor thinks that the offender won’t commit another crime. I don’t think anyone is arguing that a non violent offender, like one arrested for possession of pot, should be locked up. On the flip side, there are those arguing no one should be held before they are convicted. That’s f-ed up.
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Yeah, like the ass hole who shoulda been locked up, but instead decided to take a joyride thru the Waukesha Christmas parade, aina?
#motherfooker
But he was out on bail, right? And if we want to say his bail should have been higher, we mean that it should have been set at a level he was unable to pay because he didn't have the money, and that doesn't exactly seem like how we want to run our legal system either. If anything, this seems to be a mark in the column of bail reform.
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It also seems anti-common sense to let out those whose victims are scared to death the criminals will return, or those whose victim’s families are grieving because their loved one was killed or raped and some milquetoast prosecutor thinks that the offender won’t commit another crime. I don’t think anyone is arguing that a non violent offender, like one arrested for possession of pot, should be locked up. On the flip side, there are those arguing no one should be held before they are convicted. That’s f-ed up.
Of course. But as I said above there are hundreds of thousands of allegedly non-violent offenders in jail. For a country that supposedly believes in personal liberty, that’s f-ed up too.
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Seems like there is a lot of common ground on bail reform
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It also seems anti-common sense to let out those whose victims are scared to death the criminals will return, or those whose victim’s families are grieving because their loved one was killed or raped and some milquetoast prosecutor thinks that the offender won’t commit another crime. I don’t think anyone is arguing that a non violent offender, like one arrested for possession of pot, should be locked up. On the flip side, there are those arguing no one should be held before they are convicted. That’s f-ed up.
Regarding the bolded, who's saying this? I suppose you could find some extrmee outlier, but the vast, vast majority of bail reform advocates propose nothing of the sort. In fact, most bail reform would make it harder, not easier, for violent offenders to go free pretrial.
As for the anti-common sense part, are you suggesting that bail decisions ought to be decided by the perceived level of fear by the accuser? Do you think a domestic violence suspect should be locked up for months pretrial because the accuser says she/he is afraid?
I don't mean this to come off as snarky, but do you understand how bond is set? Because it's not set my prosecutors, milquetoast or otherwise.
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Hey, stop speaking ill of the car.
We need common sense car control in this country!
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We need common sense car control in this country!
Black Lives Matter
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Black Lives Matter
Agreed, All Lives Matter
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We need common sense car control in this country!
If only would be gun owners had to pass an ownership test before receiving their firearms...and pay an annual licensing fee...and pay insurance for potential mishaps...and be re-tested for competency on occasion.
Alas, the moronic pretty boys that turned guns into a partisan wedge issue won't allow even the mildest of reforms.
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Agreed, All Lives Matter
Black Lives Matter
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Agreed, All Lives Matter
It's great when people come right out and tell you what they are. Takes away all the guess work.
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Agreed, All Lives Matter
Except when invading government buildings in a coup attempt. Then those Blue Lives no longer matter.
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Regarding the bolded, who's saying this? I suppose you could find some extrmee outlier, but the vast, vast majority of bail reform advocates propose nothing of the sort. In fact, most bail reform would make it harder, not easier, for violent offenders to go free pretrial.
As for the anti-common sense part, are you suggesting that bail decisions ought to be decided by the perceived level of fear by the accuser? Do you think a domestic violence suspect should be locked up for months pretrial because the accuser says she/he is afraid?
I don't mean this to come off as snarky, but do you understand how bond is set? Because it's not set my prosecutors, milquetoast or otherwise.
I know. But prosecutors have some leeway in what they charge or downgrade a charge to. My point is that those who are arrested habitually or commit some type of violent offense should not be let go as easily as some seem to be. Not all, but many are let out way too easily. We hear about them on the news (local news even). And if you listen to AOC, Talib, Ohmar, etc., they say the the entire carceral system should be abolished. So yes. There are some extreme outliers. The problem is that some of them are in congress.
And before anyone jumps on the whataboutism train, I'm strictly replying to Pak's question about who's saying people shouldn't be locked up.
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It's inefficient and ineffective. Solve the societal problems. But we don't want to do that.
Neofeudalism must continue!
seriously?? solve societal problems?? so how do you suppose we accomplish this one? you do realize that some people are just unfit for society, right? i don't know what classes you took at MU that taught you this, but probably a little late to ask for some money back. but what is this?? just smoke a bowl and puff the magic dragon...weeeee, everything's gonna be alright
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seriously?? solve societal problems?? so how do you suppose we accomplish this one? you do realize that some people are just unfit for society, right? i don't know what classes you took at MU that taught you this, but probably a little late to ask for some money back. but what is this?? just smoke a bowl and puff the magic dragon...weeeee, everything's gonna be alright
I’m going to smoke a bowl in a few minutes. You should try it and loosen up, Sandy, babe.
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seriously?? solve societal problems?? so how do you suppose we accomplish this one? you do realize that some people are just unfit for society, right? i don't know what classes you took at MU that taught you this, but probably a little late to ask for some money back. but what is this?? just smoke a bowl and puff the magic dragon...weeeee, everything's gonna be alright
I used to think muguru was the dumbest person I've run into on the internet.
I would like to formally apologize to him.
There are some places in Europe I'd suggest you visit if you truly believe the bolded.
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SJW 😂
I thought “SJW” was a “badge of honor.”
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I used to think muguru was the dumbest person I've run into on the internet.
I would like to formally apologize to him.
There are some places in Europe I'd suggest you visit if you truly believe the bolded.
so i am supposed to visit europe? where abouts? give me a clue...which countries have solved "societal problems"?
"some places"? so there are more than one? geez, must be secret places...haven't heard of waves of people rushing to live there. do you need citizenship? or can you just walk on over like here?
unless you can come thru fill us in here at scoop, you might have 3 fingers pointing right at your "dumbest person" on the internet
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I thought “SJW” was a “badge of honor.”
It’s whatever you want it to be, Jr.
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I used to think muguru was the dumbest person I've run into on the internet.
I would like to formally apologize to him.
If it took you this long to figure it out, well, I don't know what to say.
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so i am supposed to visit europe? where abouts? give me a clue...which countries have solved "societal problems"?
"some places"? so there are more than one? geez, must be secret places...haven't heard of waves of people rushing to live there. do you need citizenship? or can you just walk on over like here?
unless you can come thru fill us in here at scoop, you might have 3 fingers pointing right at your "dumbest person" on the internet
You haven’t heard of waves of people moving to Europe? Western Europe has about the same %-age of immigrant population as the United States. Around 15%.
And yes some people have walked there.
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You haven’t heard of waves of people moving to Europe? Western Europe has about the same %-age of immigrant population as the United States. Around 15%.
And yes some people have walked there.
and...they have solved societal problems? meaning they don't need jails or prisons? where in europe may this place be? umm, no, i haven't heard of such a movement. maybe we could start a new thread on this utopia you and hardy speak of. this could be ground breaking stuff
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Anybody else think Mr. ALM-except-when-attempting-a-coup-then-blue-lives-no-longer-matter should stick to threatening to fire female employees for wanting to shave their head in support of their friend going through cancer because they’re just drawing attention themselves and away from precious business?
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so i am supposed to visit europe? where abouts? give me a clue...which countries have solved "societal problems"?
"some places"? so there are more than one? geez, must be secret places...haven't heard of waves of people rushing to live there. do you need citizenship? or can you just walk on over like here?
unless you can come thru fill us in here at scoop, you might have 3 fingers pointing right at your "dumbest person" on the internet
I can't believe I have to spell this out for you.
Auschwitz, Dachau, Bergen-Belsen.
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I know. But prosecutors have some leeway in what they charge or downgrade a charge to. My point is that those who are arrested habitually or commit some type of violent offense should not be let go as easily as some seem to be. Not all, but many are let out way too easily. We hear about them on the news (local news even). And if you listen to AOC, Talib, Ohmar, etc., they say the the entire carceral system should be abolished. So yes. There are some extreme outliers. The problem is that some of them are in congress.
And before anyone jumps on the whataboutism train, I'm strictly replying to Pak's question about who's saying people shouldn't be locked up.
Could you find some examples of AOC or Omar saying the whole system should be abolished (without, of course, any replacement). Are you really suggesting they're advocating for a system in which murderers are never incarcerated?
As for violent offenders getting out too easily ... we agree! That's one reason why the cash bail system makes no sense. It allows a well-off killer or rapist go free, while a poor shoplifter or drug user sits in jail. Pretrial release should be dependent on the defendant's background and the nature of the offense, not financial means.
And by clearing out the jails of people who really don't need to be there, we create less overcrowding pressure on the system that can often force the release of the truly dangerous.
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I used to think muguru was the dumbest person I've run into on the internet.
I would like to formally apologize to him.
There are some places in Europe I'd suggest you visit if you truly believe the bolded.
Equating murderers and rapists (obviously rocket’s “some people”) with innocents gassed because they were Jewish kinda disqualifies you from judging anyone else’s IQ.
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Equating murderers and rapists (obviously rocket’s “some people”) with innocents gassed because they were Jewish kinda disqualifies you from judging anyone else’s IQ.
I know you're old, so I'll give you a pass. My comment was directed at the bolded portion.
But, by all means, please defend rocket. He's a stand up gentleman, and standing along side him is such a good look. You know, with all his good takes.
Get your head right.
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I know you're old, so I'll give you a pass.
Heh. I'm not the only one to notice this I guess.
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Move along, nothin' ta cee heer, hey?
Safety Alert: Feb. 19, 2022 | 6:10 p.m.
FEBRUARY 19, 2022
The Marquette University Police Department is investigating the incident below. If you have more information, please contact MUPD immediately at (414) 288-6800.
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Armed robbery
Incident location: 800 block of N. 14th Street
Approximate time: 6:10 p.m.
Victims: One male, Marquette student
Physical injuries: None
MUPD responded to a report of an armed robbery at the 800 block of N. 14th Street. Suspects approached the victim (one male, Marquette student) in a black four-door Kia and demanded the victim's cell phone. The victim gave up property. The suspects fled the scene westbound on Wells Street in the Kia. The victim reported no physical injuries. MUPD is leading the investigation.
Description of suspect(s)
Suspect 1:
Sex: Unknown
Age: Unknown
Race and/or ethnicity:
White Black or African American Hispanic or Latino Asian American Indian or Alaska Native Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander Unknown
Suspect 2:
Sex: Male
Age: 18
Race and/or ethnicity:
White Black or African American Hispanic or Latino Asian American Indian or Alaska Native Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander Unknown
Weight: Thin
Clothing: Dark hooded sweatshirt
Suspect 3:
Sex: Male
Age: Adolescent
Race and/or ethnicity:
White Black or African American Hispanic or Latino Asian American Indian or Alaska Native Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander Unknown
Weight: Thin
Clothing: Dark hooded sweatshirt
Vehicle Description
Black four-door Kia
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South of State St., aina?
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Happened when I was in school too. I’m sure you were concerned then.
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I know you're old, so I'll give you a pass. My comment was directed at the bolded portion.
Hards
There was nothing wrong with his “bolded portion”. The “some people” he’s talking about are clearly violent criminals, not innocents. Conflating the two is not honest.
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South of State St., aina?
West of state street here, high as a kite
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Hards
There was nothing wrong with his “bolded portion”. The “some people” he’s talking about are clearly violent criminals, not innocents. Conflating the two is not honest.
If you can't see what was wrong with what he said, you are also beyond hope.
I thought you weren't. Please prove me wrong.
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If you can't see what was wrong with what he said, you are also beyond hope.
I thought you weren't. Please prove me wrong.
I have no idea why you thought that.
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"Plenty of evidence" is one news story? Usually if someone prefaces a statement that way I'd be expecting, you know, actual data.
Maybe there actually is "plenty of evidence", I don't know...but I do know this isn't it.
So an actual news story isn't evidence. Wow! There are daily accounts here in California of such things happening. DA s are becoming subject to more recall referendums. I'm all for fairness in treating people who make a mistake but a revolving door for chronic criminals does nobody any good. For example, the LA county sheriff now charges felons in Federal Court rather than local courts to protect the citizens.
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So an actual news story isn't evidence. Wow!
One news story isn't "plenty of evidence." it's a news story.
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West of state street here, high as a kite
Creeping on the UW coeds?
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Creeping on the UW coeds?
The older I get or something
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If you can't see what was wrong with what he said, you are also beyond hope.
I thought you weren't. Please prove me wrong.
“Some people are unfit for society” is what you bolded. Guess what? Some people are - they’ve disqualified themselves. Do you honestly think that mass murderers or violent rapists are fit for society? I bet not any society you want your wife and children to inhabit.
Could “some people are unfit for society” be used as an apology for genocide? Sure. But you know that wasn’t the case here. Acting like you don’t is dishonest.
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If you can't see what was wrong with what he said, you are also beyond hope.
I thought you weren't. Please prove me wrong.
you're losing hardy. i have no idea where the hell you get jewish prison camps out of "some people". that is actually demented beyond words and an apology would be appropriate. maybe you need to listen to some old people a little more. you wet behind the ears fellers missed a lot of good stuff while being distracted with all your "woke" crap
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you're losing hardy. i have no idea where the hell you get jewish prison camps out of "some people". that is actually demented beyond words and an apology would be appropriate. maybe you need to listen to some old people a little more. you wet behind the ears fellers missed a lot of good stuff while being distracted with all your "woke" crap
9 of 10
If anyone needs to apologize, it is definitely Hards.
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So an actual news story isn't evidence. Wow! There are daily accounts here in California of such things happening. DA s are becoming subject to more recall referendums. I'm all for fairness in treating people who make a mistake but a revolving door for chronic criminals does nobody any good. For example, the LA county sheriff now charges felons in Federal Court rather than local courts to protect the citizens.
No, a news story about a single individual does not constitute "plenty of evidence".
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It’s whatever you want it to be, Jr.
You should discuss that with one of your fellow virtue signalers who advertises that on his profile. Unless he’s a big Tucker fan. I’ve never seen him, you seem to know a lot about him though. Closet fan?
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“Some people are unfit for society” is what you bolded. Guess what? Some people are - they’ve disqualified themselves. Do you honestly think that mass murderers or violent rapists are fit for society? I bet not any society you want your wife and children to inhabit.
Could “some people are unfit for society” be used as an apology for genocide? Sure. But you know that wasn’t the case here. Acting like you don’t is dishonest.
Congrats, you've lumped yourself into the fascist dystopia that rocket subscribes to.
Are you proud? Would your family be? Why would you defend the stupid things he says. Do the things I say offend you so much? I say much less harmful things.
Lets meet for a drink.
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you're losing hardy. i have no idea where the hell you get jewish prison camps out of "some people". that is actually demented beyond words and an apology would be appropriate. maybe you need to listen to some old people a little more. you wet behind the ears fellers missed a lot of good stuff while being distracted with all your "woke" crap
Brother. Let's meet. I'm old enough, but not ignorant.
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Hoos byin', hey?
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You should discuss that with one of your fellow virtue signalers who advertises that on his profile. Unless he’s a big Tucker fan. I’ve never seen him, you seem to know a lot about him though. Closet fan?
Virtue signalers 😂
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More tales of much worse violence in the streets:
Texting through an insurrection: Thousands of frantic text messages that might have otherwise been lost to history are now key to piecing together a picture of the events surrounding the Jan. 6 attack.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/interactive/2022/texting-insurrection/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F36100ac%2F620d35549d2fda34e794eab3%2F5f8d147cae7e8a56e5b732a4%2F25%2F70%2F620d35549d2fda34e794eab3
The panicked texts started landing in Mark Meadows’s phone long before thousands of supporters of President Donald Trump stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, to stop Congress from certifying Joe Biden’s victory.
Many were sent to Meadows by Fox News hosts, lawmakers and other Trump allies urging him to get his boss — cocooned in his private dining room just off the Oval Office — to put a halt to the assault.
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More tales of much worse violence in the streets:
Texting through an insurrection: Thousands of frantic text messages that might have otherwise been lost to history are now key to piecing together a picture of the events surrounding the Jan. 6 attack.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/interactive/2022/texting-insurrection/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F36100ac%2F620d35549d2fda34e794eab3%2F5f8d147cae7e8a56e5b732a4%2F25%2F70%2F620d35549d2fda34e794eab3
The panicked texts started landing in Mark Meadows’s phone long before thousands of supporters of President Donald Trump stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, to stop Congress from certifying Joe Biden’s victory.
Many were sent to Meadows by Fox News hosts, lawmakers and other Trump allies urging him to get his boss — cocooned in his private dining room just off the Oval Office — to put a halt to the assault.
The January 6th riots were wrong but not as deadly as everyone wants them to be. There was no coup, no insurrection, just a bunch of dumb people with bad intentions. Last time I checked, congressional business went on as usual that day. The burn loot and murder campaign of summer 2020, however, did much more damage to everyday people and was much more violent.
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The January 6th riots were wrong but not as deadly as everyone wants them to be. There was no coup, no insurrection, just a bunch of dumb people with bad intentions. Last time I checked, congressional business went on as usual that day. The burn loot and murder campaign of summer 2020, however, did much more damage to everyday people and was much more violent.
Lol. Business went on “as usual?” Is it “usual” for Congress-people to have to leave the floor, barricade the doors, and have protesters sit in the Speaker’s chair?
Sure they finished their job eventually, and I’m not labeling it a coup, but to claim that it went on “as usual” is a really, really stupid statement. Protesters invaded the capitol to prevent the essential democratic process from occurring. It amazes me that anyone would minimize that.
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Lol. Business went on “as usual?” Is it “usual” for Congress-people to have to leave the floor, barricade the doors, and have protesters sit in the Speaker’s chair?
Sure they finished their job eventually, and I’m not labeling it a coup, but to claim that it went on “as usual” is a really, really stupid statement.
Can agree on that. I am just saying in the grand scheme of things, the government went on.
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Can agree on that. I am just saying in the grand scheme of things, the government went on.
And in the grand scheme of things, Minneapolis has recovered from the BLM protests. I’m not sure that’s the standard we want to set here though. Bad actions deserve to be recognized as such.
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Can agree on that. I am just saying in the grand scheme of things, the government went on.
Not all insurrections are successful.
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Not all insurrections are successful.
This is the new rationalization. Because it was a hamfisted, failed effort by a bunch of incompetents - among them people in the White House and Congress - it's really no big deal.
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And in the grand scheme of things, Minneapolis has recovered from the BLM protests. I’m not sure that’s the standard we want to set here though. Bad actions deserve to be recognized as such.
Wtf are you talking about. It’s just a sh1t show here. Police shootings, protests, record murders, car jackings galore. Hell, I’ve caught people breaking into cars in my driveway and witnessed a car theft in my neighborhood.
We still have a couple more trials to go yet this summer. Ugh, it will be a long, hot summer.
This is your dumbest post yet.
We can’t even keep our garage door open in the summer for fear of people entering your house while you are in the backyard cutting the grass. It’s happening every day now in our community.
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Wtf are you talking about. It’s just a sh1t show here. Police shootings, protests, record murders, car jackings galore. Hell, I’ve caught people breaking into cars in my driveway and witnessed a car theft in my neighborhood.
We still have a couple more trials to go yet this summer. Ugh, it will be a long, hot summer.
This is your dumbest post yet.
Real Chili Thanks for posting and bringing these circumstances to the light of day.
Our company stopped doing business in the Twin Cities to protect the safety of our employees.
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real
Too many people have their head in the sand and want to believe everything is fine. Ironically, it seems like the same people will be talking about Jan. 6th for as long as I have talked about the Al era at MU.
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Wtf are you talking about. It’s just a sh1t show here. Police shootings, protests, record murders, car jackings galore. Hell, I’ve caught people breaking into cars in my driveway and witnessed a car theft in my neighborhood.
We still have a couple more trials to go yet this summer. Ugh, it will be a long, hot summer.
This is your dumbest post yet.
We can’t even keep our garage door open in the summer for fear of people entering your house while you are in the backyard cutting the grass. It’s happening every day now in our community.
All because of the BLM protests right?
What you’re describing is happening a lot of places. BLM is just the bogeyman for complex societal problems we don’t want to deal with.
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real
Too many people have their head in the sand and want to believe everything is fine. Ironically, it seems like the same people will be talking about Jan. 6th for as long as I have talked about the Al era at MU.
No one is saying “everything is fine.” Jeez you people need to learn how to read.
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It got the train rolling.
People have become more brazen. No, crime was not invented two years ago, but the uptick is undeniable.
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It got the train rolling.
People have become more brazen. No, crime was not invented two years ago, but the uptick is undeniable.
But the uptick is everywhere. And its not just crime, it's self-destructive behavior of all sorts. Car accidents are up. Drug overdoeses are up.
I was speaking to the very specific aftermath of the protests. Not trying to minimize what citizens are dealing with.
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Wtf are you talking about. It’s just a sh1t show here. Police shootings, protests, record murders, car jackings galore. Hell, I’ve caught people breaking into cars in my driveway and witnessed a car theft in my neighborhood.
We still have a couple more trials to go yet this summer. Ugh, it will be a long, hot summer.
This is your dumbest post yet.
We can’t even keep our garage door open in the summer for fear of people entering your house while you are in the backyard cutting the grass. It’s happening every day now in our community.
There's nothing unique happening in Minneapolis. Violent crime is up in the vast majority of American cities, Republican mayor or Democrat, blue state or red state.
Do you believe the BLM protests are responsible for this? If so, show your math.
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Face palm
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There's nothing unique happening in Minneapolis. Violent crime is up in the vast majority of American cities, Republican mayor or Democrat, blue state or red state.
Do you believe the BLM protests are responsible for this? If so, show your math.
Face palm
I take it that this means you can't indeed "show your math."
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You get a woody minimizing this, don’t you. Quite the circle jerk.
Oh, and you’ll need to have the last word, too.
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But the uptick is everywhere. And its not just crime, it's self-destructive behavior of all sorts. Car accidents are up. Drug overdoeses are up.
Ding! Ding! Ding!
Bad behavior in general is up. More assh*les on airplanes. Schools are reporting more suspensions and other disciplinary issues. Violence in the stands at sporting events is on the rise.
The culprit here isn't BLM. It's COVID.
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The January 6th riots were wrong but not as deadly as everyone wants them to be. There was no coup, no insurrection, just a bunch of dumb people with bad intentions.
Coup is defined as "a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government."
1/6/21 wasn't a coup only because it failed.
But it most certainly was an attempt at a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government. By definition, it was an attempted coup, and that's what it should be called. Although "violent insurrection," which is what the Senate minority leader and a few other conservative Republicans are finally publicly calling it, works too.
people will be talking about Jan. 6th for as long as I have talked about the Al era at MU.
I sure as heck hope so, Goose, because we need to remember one of the darkest days in American history, learn from it and try to make sure something similar never happens again. IMHO Al McGuire would have thought it was important to keep talking about, too ... and, on a side note, I am 100% certain he would have vocally supported BLM. He probably would have marched right alongside the protesters.
That one of America's two political parties has officially declared what happened on 1/6/21 "legitimate political discourse" -- and that the same party has canceled two GOP congresspeople because they've had the temerity to seek the truth about the attempted coup -- tells us everything we need to know about what's going on in this country.
Meanwhile, in Wisconsin -- which apparently has become a dystopian hellscape whose college campuses are war zones -- the state GOP is still trying to decertify the 2020 election, steal the vote from its residents, and reinstate the Inciter In Chief.
No word on whether JFK Jr. would step in as vice president now that Mike Pence has been hung.
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You get a woody minimizing this, don’t you. Quite the circle jerk.
I take it this is how one responds when he has nothing intelligent to say.
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You get a woody minimizing this, don’t you. Quite the circle jerk.
Oh, and you’ll need to have the last word, too.
Tell me exactly what I have minimized? Crime is up everywhere. It's not my problem that you apparently think it is only affecting your little universe.
And yeah, I reserve the right to respond to your comment. As you do mine. But if you want to runaway to your little underboard safe space, that's fine by me.
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Classic
I score that a 9.5.
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Classic
I score that a 9.5.
Stealing others bits...this is what we have resorted too?
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Classic
I score that a 9.5.
Joke theft is a crime, sir.
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Could you find some examples of AOC or Omar saying the whole system should be abolished (without, of course, any replacement). Are you really suggesting they're advocating for a system in which murderers are never incarcerated?
As for violent offenders getting out too easily ... we agree! That's one reason why the cash bail system makes no sense. It allows a well-off killer or rapist go free, while a poor shoplifter or drug user sits in jail. Pretrial release should be dependent on the defendant's background and the nature of the offense, not financial means.
And by clearing out the jails of people who really don't need to be there, we create less overcrowding pressure on the system that can often force the release of the truly dangerous.
These are only a couple of examples.
https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/tlaib-tweet-saying-policing-should-be-abolished-after-daunte-wright-killing-draws-cheers-jeers
https://www.discoverthenetworks.org/news/ocasio-cortez-i-want-to-abolish-our-carceral-system
I lumped Omar into this discussion, but admittedly that may be incorrect and that she only advocated the dismantling of the police system.
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How many innocent people have the Twin Cities police departments killed since the BLM protests?
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Joke theft is a crime, sir.
I started the ‘scale of 10’ here.
I feel violated and victimized.
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I started the ‘scale of 10’ here.
I feel violated and victimized.
Just another victim of the woke mob and cancel culture. I’ll Venmo 10% of my Scoops earnings to you
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These are only a couple of examples.
https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/tlaib-tweet-saying-policing-should-be-abolished-after-daunte-wright-killing-draws-cheers-jeers
https://www.discoverthenetworks.org/news/ocasio-cortez-i-want-to-abolish-our-carceral-system
I lumped Omar into this discussion, but admittedly that may be incorrect and that she only advocated the dismantling of the police system.
What you've done here is take snippets of what they've said - a two-sentence statement and a tweet - and left out the part about how neither have called for an end to incarceration, which you initially claimed. Rather, they've rather advocated for the replacement of the current system with another system.
Whether that's a good idea is debatable (I think it's not ... reform, not replacement is the answer), but it's no use having that debate by offering misleading/wrong accounts of what each side is saying.
Now, if you want to take the time to read this tweet thread from AOC laying out her position, have at it. I think you'll see she's advocating for a smaller prison system - because, you know, that's exactly what she says - not the elimination of it.
"Our lawmaking process means we come to solutions together, &either way we should work to an end where our prison system is dramatically smaller than it is today."
https://twitter.com/aoc/status/1181207076082724864
No point in responding re: Tlaib, because she said nothing there about ending incarceration.
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Joke theft is a crime, sir.
Crime is up everywhere.
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Coup is defined as "a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government."
1/6/21 wasn't a coup only because it failed.
But it most certainly was an attempt at a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government. By definition, it was an attempted coup, and that's what it should be called. Although "violent insurrection," which is what the Senate minority leader and a few other conservative Republicans are finally publicly calling it, works too.
I sure as heck hope so, Goose, because we need to remember one of the darkest days in American history, learn from it and try to make sure something similar never happens again. IMHO Al McGuire would have thought it was important to keep talking about, too ... and, on a side note, I am 100% certain he would have vocally supported BLM. He probably would have marched right alongside the protesters.
That one of America's two political parties has officially declared what happened on 1/6/21 "legitimate political discourse" -- and that the same party has canceled two GOP congresspeople because they've had the temerity to seek the truth about the attempted coup -- tells us everything we need to know about what's going on in this country.
Meanwhile, in Wisconsin -- which apparently has become a dystopian hellscape whose college campuses are war zones -- the state GOP is still trying to decertify the 2020 election, steal the vote from its residents, and reinstate the Inciter In Chief.
No word on whether JFK Jr. would step in as vice president now that Mike Pence has been hung.
Mike
One unarmed female veteran was killed on January 6th. By the police. The “army” trying to overthrow the world’s largest superpower was small (1000? maybe 1500?) and mostly unarmed.
Nobody here has defended the rioters. Everyone here agrees that it was an awful day in our history. But hyperbole and repetition won’t make it something that some people here and most people in the US don’t think it was.
I’ll never change any minds and neither will you. From here on out I’m going to at least try to give it a rest.
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What you've done here is take snippets of what they've said - a two-sentence statement and a tweet - and left out the part about how neither have called for an end to incarceration, which you initially claimed. Rather, they've rather advocated for the replacement of the current system with another system.
Whether that's a good idea is debatable (I think it's not ... reform, not replacement is the answer), but it's no use having that debate by offering misleading/wrong accounts of what each side is saying.
Now, if you want to take the time to read this tweet thread from AOC laying out her position, have at it. I think you'll see she's advocating for a smaller prison system - because, you know, that's exactly what she says - not the elimination of it.
"Our lawmaking process means we come to solutions together, &either way we should work to an end where our prison system is dramatically smaller than it is today."
So you say she’s advocating for a “smaller” prison system. She says she’s advocating for a “dramatically smaller” prison system. What exactly (according to her) is “dramatic”? Unless we know that we don’t really know what she’s advocating. 10% would mean smaller, 90% would be dramatically so. It would also be really close to abolition.
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So you say she’s advocating for a “smaller” prison system. She says she’s advocating for a “dramatically smaller” prison system.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pedantry
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Mike
One unarmed female veteran was killed on January 6th. By the police. The “army” trying to overthrow the world’s largest superpower was small (1000? maybe 1500?) and mostly unarmed.
Nobody here has defended the rioters. Everyone here agrees that it was an awful day in our history. But hyperbole and repetition won’t make it something that some people here and most people in the US don’t think it was.
I’ll never change any minds and neither will you. From here on out I’m going to at least try to give it a rest.
Using your logic, let's just agree that is was another poorly executed plan of the Trump administration.