Recruiting JUCO's

[detroitwarrior]

It seems based on looking at the kids interested in Marquette on this board and other boards in 2009 that there are more quality SGs available in 2009 than PGs who have not already commited. Get a 4 star SG and Jamil Wilson with the 2009 spots and then a 4 star PG and Big in 2010.

[dwaderoy2004]

If Buycks really is Buzz's answer at the point, then I'm guessing he's still going to try and land a shooter and a back to the basket post.  He can try and get a PG for 2010 to backup Buycks for a year. 

[ecompt]

I thought Jamil Wilson was out of the equation for 2009-10. Am I wrong?

[bma725]

I thought Jamil Wilson was out of the equation for 2009-10. Am I wrong?

It would take a miracle at this point to get him to MU.

[Wareagle]

I thought Jamil Wilson was out of the equation for 2009-10. Am I wrong?

I believe that at this point MSU is sitting in the catbird's seat.

[The Lens]

I believe that at this point MSU is sitting in the catbird's seat.

I'm excited about the fact that MSU's big "Gets" out of Wisconsin (Lucious / Wilson) will end up paling in comparison to Kwamain Mitchell at SLU and Jeronne Maymon at MU.  And Izzo will take this "All Wisconsin Team" into the Kohl Hole and still lose to Bo.

[Wareagle]

I'm excited about the fact that MSU's big "Gets" out of Wisconsin (Lucious / Wilson) will end up paling in comparison to Kwamain Mitchell at SLU and Jeronne Maymon at MU.  And Izzo will take this "All Wisconsin Team" into the Kohl Hole and still lose to Bo.

Someone posted on another site about how, eventually, on-court production overtakes potential as a basis for evaluating recruits.  At this point, I would say you could make a reasonable argument that Maymon's prep accomplishments in the State Tournament (where he was playing out of position) and his AAU output earlier this year put him on equal ground with Jamil's "potential." 

[bilsu]

It will be interesting to compare Buyckes and Butler as juniors to how Taylor and Nick Williams are doing as sophomores. As far as recruiting juco's I thought Fr. Wilde had some agreement with Crean that he could only take one juco at a time. I think the rule had an exception for players that were academically eligible coming out of high school. If that was and still is the case then Buzz would not be able to take anymore junior college players as Buyckes would be his one allowed juco. Does anybody remember the exact limitation that was placed on Crean and jucos. Part of the problem with Crean's jucos was that they were front court players playing for a back court coach. There have been a lot of great jucos in MU's history. MU's best team (1976 27-2) started two juco's. Walton and Whitehead, who both came to MU after playing one year of juco ball. I do not think Butler and Fulce will be as good as those two players, but they should be better than Blackledge and Lott.

[bma725]

It will be interesting to compare Buyckes and Butler as juniors to how Taylor and Nick Williams are doing as sophomores. As far as recruiting juco's I thought Fr. Wilde had some agreement with Crean that he could only take one juco at a time. I think the rule had an exception for players that were academically eligible coming out of high school. If that was and still is the case then Buzz would not be able to take anymore junior college players as Buyckes would be his one allowed juco. Does anybody remember the exact limitation that was placed on Crean and jucos. Part of the problem with Crean's jucos was that they were front court players playing for a back court coach. There have been a lot of great jucos in MU's history. MU's best team (1976 27-2) started two juco's. Walton and Whitehead, who both came to MU after playing one year of juco ball. I do not think Butler and Fulce will be as good as those two players, but they should be better than Blackledge and Lott.

Of Crean's JUCO players, I believe only Kinsella was a qualifier out of high school, and he didn't start at the JUCO, he started at Rice.  But Jackson, Lott and Blackledge were all non-qualifiers, and he had Blackledge and Lott on the team together in 2006-2007.  So the one JUCO at a time seems to just be a rumor.

[wadesworld]

I'm excited about the fact that MSU's big "Gets" out of Wisconsin (Lucious / Wilson) will end up paling in comparison to Kwamain Mitchell at SLU and Jeronne Maymon at MU.  And Izzo will take this "All Wisconsin Team" into the Kohl Hole and still lose to Bo.

This is a serious question, not trying to disagree with you because I only saw Mitchell play once: Do you really think Kwamain Mitchell is that good/will make that big of an impact at SLU?  The game I saw him play was at the Al (actually against Wilson's Horlick team) and I was very unimpressed with him (considering he is going to SLU and is highly thought of by Majerus).  I wasn't that impressed with Wilson either, but you can tell Wilson definitely could be a star some day, wherever he goes.  I thought Mitchell was a decent ball handler, solid leader, decent passer, but terrible shooter and didn't look to score enough.  He'll be decent but I don't know if he'll overshadow Wilson.  I think he'll overshadow Lucious though, only because Lucious isn't going to get very much playing time until at best his junior year, probably senior year, if he ever does.  I'm not a fan of Lucious's game at all...reminds me a lot of Lacy except that he doesn't even try to get to the rim, just shoots NBA range 3 pointers all day and clanks them (can get hot and then he's good, but from what I've seen, and that's a lot, he only gets hot 1 in about every 3 or 4 games...others he gets his 20 points in 25 shots).

In my opinion, Maymon and Wilson will be VERY good in college, Mitchell will be a decent, pass-first point guard, and Lucious will ride the pine (I think he'll transfer before his junior year).

Again, only seen Wilson twice, Lucious more than enough times, and Mitchell once, and haven't seen Maymon (have heard a lot from people who have seen him a lot though), so I could be completely off.