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Mayor McCheese

Quote from: bilsu on April 12, 2008, 09:14:16 PM
I believe the three point line is moved out next year. Which is probably good for Mu, since we are not a good three point shooting team.

it is being moved out around a foot I think, this will change nothing, if a kid can shoot the three now, he will be able to shoot the three next year.  I really don't understand the reason for moving it out, seems silly, should we raise the basket since so many people are dunking now?  Should we move the free throw line up since there are so many poor FT % now? 
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/NCAA/dayone&sportCat=ncb

pure genius stuff by Bill Simmons, remember to read day 2

Daniel

Either leave it alone, ar move it to NBA 3 point line.  What is the idea of moving it a foot?  It's crazy.  Good analogy with the FT line and basket height

spartan3186

They are moving it to the international distance...

Mayor McCheese

Quote from: spartan3186 on April 13, 2008, 03:57:06 PM
They are moving it to the international distance...

I know, and really think it is a bad idea, the only new thing college needs to adapt is the little bubble under the basket, the "no charge" bubble, because that call is getting out of hand.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/NCAA/dayone&sportCat=ncb

pure genius stuff by Bill Simmons, remember to read day 2

dwaderoy2004

You'll like it next year when defenses have to space more to cover shooters, thus leaving more open lanes for DJ and McNeal to get to the hoop. 

Phi Iota Gamma 84

Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on April 13, 2008, 04:19:17 PM
You'll like it next year when defenses have to space more to cover shooters, thus leaving more open lanes for DJ and McNeal to get to the hoop. 

Don't you have to have a credible outside shooting threat to make that strategy effective?
There is nothing less productive than doing more efficiently that which should not be done at all-Peter Drucker

swimmer

If this strategy was going to help MU, they should have been doing it last season.  Just make an imaginary line and tell your three point shooters to spread the floor more.  Nothing says you have to shoot from the closest point possible that is still considered a three.

I think the question is, who will this change hurt the least?  Since floor spacing for driving to the basket is not affected (could have been doing it this year), in my opinion it hurts the skilled shooters the least.  The best shooters have the form and skill to make an effortless release from a step back, whereas shooters with poor form will end up flinging it more.   

Murffieus

Because of the increased arc distance, there will be more zones as trey shooting percentages will drop. Now if these zones stretch then there will be more space to drive through on the penetration. if I were coaching today, I'd stay compact----make them prove they can beat me with perimeter shooting-----points in the paint wins games!

Anyone who doesn't think that trey shooting against teams stocked with bigger, quicker, and stronger personnel doesn't drop trey shooting percentages doesn't understand what obstacles this presents. In this case there are fewer open looks by virtue of those characteristics------fewer good looks means more marginally accurate trey shooting, which results in lower percentages.

e.g------we had a guy on the 1958 MU BB team by the name of Mike Moran who still is tied for the MU single game scoring record (45 points). That year he lined up against wilt Chamberlin in a game against Kansas who he gave away 3-4 inches to and came away with only one FT.

Shooting over increased size either inside or on the perimeter is an obstacle!


Mayor McCheese

Quote from: Murffieus on April 13, 2008, 06:44:53 PM
Because of the increased arc distance, there will be more zones as trey shooting percentages will drop. Now if these zones stretch then there will be more space to drive through on the penetration. if I were coaching today, I'd stay compact----make them prove they can beat me with perimeter shooting-----points in the paint wins games!

Anyone who doesn't think that trey shooting against teams stocked with bigger, quicker, and stronger personnel doesn't drop trey shooting percentages doesn't understand what obstacles this presents. In this case there are fewer open looks by virtue of those characteristics------fewer good looks means more marginally accurate trey shooting, which results in lower percentages.

e.g------we had a guy on the 1958 MU BB team by the name of Mike Moran who still is tied for the MU single game scoring record (45 points). That year he lined up against wilt Chamberlin in a game against Kansas who he gave away 3-4 inches to and came away with only one FT.

Shooting over increased size either inside or on the perimeter is an obstacle!



I would think spreading the floor, making it more open on the inside, would provide more open looks for 3 shooters... when defenses play a zone, there will be more space to cover, hence making it easier to space the floor on offense.  It all comes down to spacing, in which MU sometimes falls into problems with (the whole stand around offense and watch DJ dribble, gotta love it)... really, this change won't affect much, shooters are shooters, and can hit from 30 feet if need be...

your use of Mike Moran scoring, and then being put on Wilt and not scoring is a very poor one.  Not only was Wilt 3-4 inches taller, he was a great defender and a top 5 player ever in the game of basketball.  Now if you would have said that Moran played Joe Lunchbucket who was 3-4 inches taller then Moran, and Moran still couldn't score, would work, just my opinion
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/NCAA/dayone&sportCat=ncb

pure genius stuff by Bill Simmons, remember to read day 2

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