Sheek in the Portal?

[Johnny B]

Nice! He hausers us and he's a clown. That clown is laughing all the way to the bank, but based on your post if you were in his shoes I presume you would have stayed as Marquette out of pure loyalty.

No I wouldn't. Dude left MU/shaka high and dry for a payday. That's fine. We don't owe him any reverence though.

[tower912]

Dr V, it isn't that much money.  If it was, Sheek would still be at MU.

[#UnleashThePortal]

The NCAA has to step in to figure out that if a player redshirts he has to stay 2 years then, the college pays for a year without him playing, so a 2 year contract.  It will not happen but good thought.

A player redshirt isn't a player decision though.

[WhiteTrash]

My source tells me he has decided to split it three ways with Fru, Caedin, and Josh. I'm sharing this information but I am just the messenger.

Caedin - $1.50
Josh - $1.50
Fru - the balance.

[MU82]

I predict that the extra money will be used to buy more fancy milkshakes after each of the 12 wins we have next year. More Ben and Jerry's ice cream.

joyless willie, or ...

[brewcity77]

And told MU with only 3 hours left in portal to match it or else. They had no time to react and didn't want to pay him that much.

I wouldn't put much faith in that source because that's not how it works. Once he enters, he can withdraw from the portal or transfer whenever. There's no 3 hour time limit to decide where he's going, which is why he didn't commit until well after entering.

[tower912]

It is entirely possible that he told MU of his intentions only 3 hours before the end of the window to move freely.  That means nothing in relation to what happens now or whether more players come to MU.  Players who put their names in the portal in that window can now make their decisions at their convenience.

[GoldenWarrior11]

I am pretty confident that MU will go further in the dance in next four seasons than SLU will.  Get paid, young man.  The track record of MU getting NBA draft picks is significantly higher than SLU, and odds are Schertz may not be there beyond next year which means he might be looking at three schools in three years.

Everyone has to do what is best for them.  Unfortunate when this type of story has been seen too many times to count.

[Jay Bee]

Anyone else wondering what Shaka will be doing with the extra money he has from the sleek Sheek departure?

Great news: Hot dogs will be served at the open scrimmage this fall!

[79Warrior]

If SLU was stupid enough to pay him the numbers thrown around, good for them.
That said, $1.5-$2mm for a guy who came to Marquette 17 years old and skinny as a toothpick, will go down as a Bobby Bonilla contract.

If the market is $1.5mm-$2mm for a completely unproven kid that has not played one minute, then it's game over. I call BS on those numbers.

[The_Blaze]

Well good luck to Sheek and although this is a big potential loss he likely did not command more than typical modest developmental roster NIL $ at his HS recruitment level for a red shirt freshman so not huge $ wasted. Big development time wasted but that is part of the game now. 

I understand that some are not happy but I do not see this as a Marquette / Shaka mess-up.  Sheek was offered bigger $ than market value to go somewhere else.  Shaka watched Sheek in practice every day the past season so he was in the best position to decide if an all-hands retention push should be made.

[Elonsmusk]

Well good luck to Sheek and although this is a big potential loss he likely did not command more than typical modest developmental roster NIL $ at his HS recruitment level for a red shirt freshman so not huge $ wasted. Big development time wasted but that is part of the game now. 

I understand that some are not happy but I do not see this as a Marquette / Shaka mess-up.  Sheek was offered bigger $ than market value to go somewhere else.  Shaka watched Sheek in practice every day the past season so he was in the best position to decide if an all-hands retention push should be made.

Agree with all of your analysis, and especially the bolded.  One of two things would be true regarding letting Sheek walk:  a) As you mention, his performance in practice didn't dictate the hefty pay raise or b) Marquette's resources aren't as deep as many prominent Scoopers suggest.

If MU can't come up with the dollars to retain a high potential big man, that was showing a lot in practice in his 1-year in the program - even if it requires bumping up the comp of Nigel, Royce, and Adrien - that would illustrate that we can't truly compete at the highest of levels in this day and age.

My feeling is that Sheek's play in practice didn't impress to the point of comping him toward the top of the roster.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

My analogy:

Sheek had a paid internship at Marquette last year. He was all set to take an entry level position next year, with a lot of long-term potential for a larger role in the future.

SLU was in the market for middle management. They lost out on all of their primary candidates. But they knew of a highly regarded intern, so they decided to not only take the risk of hiring this person for a management position, but also paying above market rate to get them.

Marquette decided an entry level position wasn't worth paying as much, or more, than some of their managers were making.  Especially when factoring in the cost of retaining these other managers, or risking losing them in the future.

[🏀]

Careful, we already have Dayton Flyers around here.  You want to end up like that guy?

ABD...ABSTL?

[PointWarrior]

Or unnatural carnal knowledge Dayton, unnatural carnal knowledge the Billikens.

ABD...ABSTL?

[brewcity77]

Agree with all of your analysis, and especially the bolded.  One of two things would be true regarding letting Sheek walk:  a) As you mention, his performance in practice didn't dictate the hefty pay raise or b) Marquette's resources aren't as deep as many prominent Scoopers suggest.

If MU can't come up with the dollars to retain a high potential big man, that was showing a lot in practice in his 1-year in the program - even if it requires bumping up the comp of Nigel, Royce, and Adrien - that would illustrate that we can't truly compete at the highest of levels in this day and age.

My feeling is that Sheek's play in practice didn't impress to the point of comping him toward the top of the roster.

It's none of that. It's because Sheek was offered more by SLU than Royce or Adrien are making here. Matching Sheek wasn't about matching the SLU offer, it was having to bring all three of them up to that level. You aren't going to get away with paying the 7th guy on the roster more than two of your core three. It would've effectively led to Sheek being as or more expensive to keep than NJ or Fru.

[Jay Bee]

Tough sell on Route 18.

[Elonsmusk]

It's none of that. It's because Sheek was offered more by SLU than Royce or Adrien are making here. Matching Sheek wasn't about matching the SLU offer, it was having to bring all three of them up to that level. You aren't going to get away with paying the 7th guy on the roster more than two of your core three. It would've effectively led to Sheek being as or more expensive to keep than NJ or Fru.

I understand that.  My point was if Sheek was showing massive potential, and we are a big time program - you match the SLU offer and bump Royce and Adrien up to Sheek's new figure, and maybe throw a $50k premium each on top of that for Royce and Adrien due to proven results.

Ego is ego, but I'd think also if Royce and Adrien thought Sheek was a massive talent/major difference maker this year, they'd have no problem with MU matching SLU, and in turn bumping up their own pay as a result.

[Jay Bee]

I understand that.  My point was if Sheek was showing massive potential, and we are a big time program - you match the SLU offer and bump Royce and Adrien up to Sheek's new figure, and maybe throw a $50k premium each on top of that for Royce and Adrien due to proven results.

Ego is ego, but I'd think also if Royce and Adrien thought Sheek was a massive talent/major difference maker this year, they'd have no problem with MU matching SLU, and in turn bumping up their own pay as a result.

dis guy.. how u say.. no have one clue

[brewcity77]

I understand that.  My point was if Sheek was showing massive potential, and we are a big time program - you match the SLU offer and bump Royce and Adrien up to Sheek's new figure, and maybe throw a $50k premium each on top of that for Royce and Adrien due to proven results.

Ego is ego, but I'd think also if Royce and Adrien thought Sheek was a massive talent/major difference maker this year, they'd have no problem with MU matching SLU, and in turn bumping up their own pay as a result.

No program, not even a "big time program", is splashing $3-3.5M to keep a redshirt freshman of Sheek's stature.

It was a desperation move by SLU, it would be even more of a desperation move to keep him.

[MU82]

Even the richest corporations have to make decisions about how to best deploy their capital. Some are difficult decisions, others are relatively easy.

If the numbers being discussed are correct, Shaka's decision to let Sheek walk probably was a relatively easy one.