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"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

WhiteTrash

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on Today at 03:49:02 PMYou are drastically underestimating the power of coaching for your job at a P5 level.
IMO, Shaka doesn't need any pressure to make changes to win. I genuinely believe he an ultra competitive guy who will do what he needs to do to win without outside motivation.

MU82

Quote from: BCHoopster on Today at 03:43:12 PMShaka really tries to buy into relationships with his players and there families.  It will be hard to tell juniors to take a hike.  Only person I see leaving is JONES, who might graduate.  One portal transfer is not enough, let's see if Shaka has the balls to get rid of more dead weight

It must be exhausting to be a 24/7 Eeyore.

Also, "their" families.

Also, if JONES leaves as you are speculating, it would be a minimum of two spots for incoming transfers.

Also, your interest in Shaka's genitalia is disturbing.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

WhiteTrash

Quote from: The Sultan on Today at 03:56:19 PMThe people writing the checks have told them to wake up from their happy little dream.
I fondly remember the slew of "reports" that MU couldn't be happier with Wojo.

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: WhiteTrash on Today at 04:01:21 PMIMO, Shaka doesn't need any pressure to make changes to win. I genuinely believe he an ultra competitive guy who will do what he needs to do to win without outside motivation.

I would certainly hope he's motivated enough internally. External noise clearly was a motivating factor in this change though. Those with the money want to win and said this version is unacceptable. Adapt or die so they say.
VIOLENCE!

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on Today at 04:20:22 PMExternal noise clearly was a motivating factor in this change though.

And this is what really gets me. Without "external noise" (weird words, but they work here) I wonder if Shaka would have rerun RGV this coming season without transfers. The money people needed to give him a wake-up call.

Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on Today at 04:42:32 PMAnd this is what really gets me. Without "external noise" (weird words, but they work here) I wonder if Shaka would have rerun RGV this coming season without transfers. The money people needed to give him a wake-up call.



They (very clearly) already did.
VIOLENCE!

Warrior of Law

One of the nice parts, and perhaps the only one, of NIL/Portal world is that everyone's on a one-year deal. From a GM perspective, they inform Hamilton and Norman that they may get replaced. MU goes into the portal with 2 spots (Lowery/Jones), and 4 spots if they find the right fits. This is the big leagues, you need to make bid decisions. The point is that MU decides is players come back. They owe nothing to anyone after the season concludes.
"You can only protect your liberties in this world by protecting the other man's freedom. You can only be free if I am free."  Clarence Darrow

Jay Bee

Quote from: Warrior of Law on Today at 05:57:56 PMOne of the nice parts, and perhaps the only one, of NIL/Portal world is that everyone's on a one-year deal.

#FakeNews #Lies
The portal is NOT closed.

wadesworld

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on Today at 04:42:32 PMAnd this is what really gets me. Without "external noise" (weird words, but they work here) I wonder if Shaka would have rerun RGV this coming season without transfers. The money people needed to give him a wake-up call.



He didn't need a wake up call. I cannot believe people here think that a guy as competitive as Shaka just wants to sit around and go 12-18 as long as he can sing Koombyah. If Shaka needed to be told how to build his roster by those who write the checks, he'd be looking for a soft landing spot right now.

Small Orange Soda

Quote from: wadesworld on Today at 08:49:51 PMHe didn't need a wake up call. I cannot believe people here think that a guy as competitive as Shaka just wants to sit around and go 12-18 as long as he can sing Koombyah. If Shaka needed to be told how to build his roster by those who write the checks, he'd be looking for a soft landing spot right now.

He definitely needed a wake up call. It wasn't, 'you need to recruit this guy or that guy', it was 'you need to not be the only high major coach to not use the portal when you know improvement is necessary'

MU82

Quote from: Small Orange Soda on Today at 09:19:02 PMHe definitely needed a wake up call. It wasn't, 'you need to recruit this guy or that guy', it was 'you need to not be the only high major coach to not use the portal when you know improvement is necessary'

Seriously, how do you know he didn't realize that himself fairly early this season? Were you in his meetings with others? Were you in his brain?

It's not just you. We have a lot of Scoopers who claim to know exactly what Shaka was thinking and when he was thinking it and who made him think it.

What we haven't seen is any evidence of any of it.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: wadesworld on Today at 08:49:51 PMHe didn't need a wake up call. I cannot believe people here think that a guy as competitive as Shaka just wants to sit around and go 12-18 as long as he can sing Koombyah. If Shaka needed to be told how to build his roster by those who write the checks, he'd be looking for a soft landing spot right now.

I do not question Shaka's competitive spirit, nor do I believe that he is satisfied with this horrendous season that was the result over more than "one bad year" of his insisting that he could create projects like Hamilton into BE caliber starters. And I do not need yet another recital of his very impressive accomplishments since coming to Marquette to counterbalance criticisms of this past season. I believe that he can once again bring Marquette to prominence, but not if he chose to continue with what I consider an obsession with developing home-grown talent.

The point of my post was that we will never know whether or not he would have tried to go forward without bringing in transfers because of the statement came from the Athletic Department, not Shaka himself. Could he have been planning on transfers from early on this season? Maybe. But the way this played out was not a good look.
 
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

Small Orange Soda

Quote from: MU82 on Today at 09:51:45 PMSeriously, how do you know he didn't realize that himself fairly early this season? Were you in his meetings with others? Were you in his brain?

It's not just you. We have a lot of Scoopers who claim to know exactly what Shaka was thinking and when he was thinking it and who made him think it.

What we haven't seen is any evidence of any of it.

Well, he himself admitted that they decided four years ago to not take any D-1 transfers after the first year. So we know he thought that.

It's pretty well known that there were donors who made their voices heard.

Then we get a clearly planted report during a game that things will now change.

Was he literally forced to change? Doubt it. But he had chances to improve this team before that way and decided not to.

We're no different than any college fan base. The people with money matter.

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: MU82 on Today at 09:51:45 PMSeriously, how do you know he didn't realize that himself fairly early this season? Were you in his meetings with others? Were you in his brain?

It's not just you. We have a lot of Scoopers who claim to know exactly what Shaka was thinking and when he was thinking it and who made him think it.

What we haven't seen is any evidence of any of it.

Fair. We don't know. But we do know Shaka shoehorned the word "growth" into pressers, after the near disastrous Valpo game when he had just a brief moment to comment, after the UW fiasco (We believe in growth"  :o  ::) and a steady stream of RGV talk-"growth" being his favorite word- throughout the season. He didn't need to abandon RGV talk, but I think by not toning it down he seemed to be saying "Damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead!" This is my personal take. I heard nothing to convince me that he was recognizing any need to change his M.O. 

 
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

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