RGV's Work

[muwarrior69]

Here's Matt Heldt's game log for 2018-19:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/max-heldt-1/gamelog/2019

He was an out-of-rotation backup big who served as an experienced insurance policy if a couple of guys got in foul trouble. That's an example of how Caedin could be used next season (and how he largely was used the second half of this season); if so, simply having him on the roster wouldn't doom Marquette to failure.

The trouble would be if Shaka thinks Caedin is more than that. But based on how he used Caedin since late December, Shaka knows exactly what Caedin is.

...but why keep him at all when you can find a better transfer. Let's see what happens in the off season.

[MarquetteMike1977]

Nobody seems to disagree about Hamilton here except Shaka and staff. The issue is when filling out this roster is if Shaka goes, 'well we can plug Hamilton in for 20 minutes, let's find the rest somewhere else'. He's clearly overestimated his ability the past two seasons, it's not a given he doesn't do it again.

Agree. Again Hamilton was rated 98th out of 99 Big East Players in an Efficiency Rating posted on this Site. And again we have been season ticket holders of four tickets for about 60 years and front row for over 20 years including the 2003 Final Four Year. Speaking to another Longtime Season Ticket Holder today who is on many Boards in the area. He said, what I have heard too, that many people are considering not renewing their season tickets if this losing continues. Not sure if this is a Scoop but we are at a stage where people are verbalizing this.

[WhiteTrash]

...but why keep him at all when you can find a better transfer. Let's see what happens in the off season.

I see the logic in having the absolute best players to fill out 15 spots, but I can also see some value in having a big body for scrimmages that is content with very little PT and is a good teammate.

Now if Hamilton is allowed to bleed off NIL funds that cost MU a player, then shame on Shaka. But it seems inconceivable that Shaka would jeopardize the team and maybe his job for a player like Hamilton.   

[79Warrior]

Aside from taking 10,000 meaningless hook shots, Hamilton did nothing to earn his minutes. The only actual justification for Hamilton's minutes throughout the season could only be explained as Shaka "fan boying" for his teachers pet. You can point to the exact time we turned into a bubble team and it is when Hamilton departed the starting lineup/significant minutes and Parham started playing more.

He's done nothing to earn his spot on this roster other than his superb ability to collect EGB's.

I guess you and Shaka will just disagree.

[79Warrior]

Agree. Again Hamilton was rated 98th out of 99 Big East Players in an Efficiency Rating posted on this Site. And again we have been season ticket holders of four tickets for about 60 years and front row for over 20 years including the 2003 Final Four Year. Speaking to another Longtime Season Ticket Holder today who is on many Boards in the area. He said, what I have heard too, that many people are considering not renewing their season tickets if this losing continues. Not sure if this is a Scoop but we are at a stage where people are verbalizing this.

Don't renew. It has happened before and the program survived. So much drama after one disappointing season.

[MarquetteMike1977]

Don't renew. It has happened before and the program survived. So much drama after one disappointing season.

Geez Did not say that. We are renewing. We are locked in and have renewed and supported the program since 1966 and probably more than most everyone.  Maybe even You. If you want Marquette to win and succeed and profit, Losing Season ticket holders is not the best. Prefer to do more than survive. Would like to win, have fun and succeed.

[MU2007]

I see the logic in having the absolute best players to fill out 15 spots, but I can also see some value in having a big body for scrimmages that is content with very little PT and is a good teammate.

Now if Hamilton is allowed to bleed off NIL funds that cost MU a player, then shame on Shaka. But it seems inconceivable that Shaka would jeopardize the team and maybe his job for a player like Hamilton.   

If Hamilton wasn't publicly gassed up all offseason and early on by Shaka & subsequently didn't get way too many minutes for way too long, I don't believe anyone would have such strong feelings if he had this role. If he's on the team he should be nothing more than mop up duty, if he's cool with that and not soaking NIL as you mentioned that's fine, my guess is he's voluntold he's going elsewhere.

[panda]

I guess you and Shaka will just disagree.

Yep he got me !! He's laughing all the way to the portal this off season to overhaul his 19 loss team.

[The Sultan]

Geez Did not say that. We are renewing. We are locked in and have supported the program since 1966 and probably more than most everyone.  Maybe even You. If you want Marquette to win and succeed and profit, Losing Season ticket holders is not the best. Prefer to do more than survive. Would like to win, have fun and succeed.

Some will leave when they lose. Some will come back when they win. No need to get angsty over it.

[Daniel]

Nobody seems to disagree about Hamilton here except Shaka and staff. The issue is when filling out this roster is if Shaka goes, 'well we can plug Hamilton in for 20 minutes, let's find the rest somewhere else'. He's clearly overestimated his ability the past two seasons, it's not a given he doesn't do it again.

This might me the mental out Shaka needs to get a centrex from the portal.  Not recruiting over Hamilton (Shaka thinking 20 minutes) and then the next venter gets here, plays well and Shaka wants to win.  Might be good

[1SE]

Hopefully Shaka realizes that when he played NJ, AS, RP and CR all at max.minutes we beat the #4 team in the country. Gotta have your best players on the floor as much as possible - these are 19-22 year olds in peak physical conditions - they can all manage 35 min of max effort 2 times a week.

[GoldenEagles03]

Hopefully Shaka realizes that when he played NJ, AS, RP and CR all at max.minutes we beat the #4 team in the country. Gotta have your best players on the floor as much as possible - these are 19-22 year olds in peak physical conditions - they can all manage 35 min of max effort 2 times a week.

It's very difficult to do that 4 days in a row though.

[MU82]

...but why keep him at all when you can find a better transfer. Let's see what happens in the off season.

Because you can't play 15 players ... so maybe you keep an experienced, hard-working young man who is liked by his teammates, and who can do something similar to what Matt Heldt did (or didn't do) in 2018-19?

Anyhoo, yes, let's see what happens in the offseason ... although I'm guessing you won't wait until then to bitch about the same things over and over and over again.

[muwarrior69]

Because you can't play 15 players ... so maybe you keep an experienced, hard-working young man who is liked by his teammates, and who can do something similar to what Matt Heldt did (or didn't do) in 2018-19?

Anyhoo, yes, let's see what happens in the offseason ... although I'm guessing you won't wait until then to bitch about the same things over and over and over again.

You can say that about Tre, Josh, and Sean as well. I'll stop bitching when our "talent" starts winning games, but I guess that is too much to ask.

[MU82]

You can say that about Tre, Josh, and Sean as well. I'll stop bitching when our "talent" starts winning games, but I guess that is too much to ask.

The subject wasn't Tre, Josh and Sean.

And I guess it was too much to ask for you to abide by your own suggestion to "Let's see what happens in the offseason."

[The Sultan]

You can say that about Tre, Josh, and Sean as well. I'll stop bitching when our "talent" starts winning games, but I guess that is too much to ask.

You bitch about everything from our basketball team, to Marquette not being Catholic enough to Marquette costing too much. So my guess is that you won't stop even with a national championship.