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[GoldenEagles03]

We haven't kept up with the portal and it landed us in this position. I'll eat crow if we make necessary additions this year and in perpetuity moving forward.

As will I if we do not.

[The Sultan]

We haven't kept up with the portal and it landed us in this position. I'll eat crow if we make necessary additions this year and in perpetuity moving forward.

As will I if we do not.

I will declare I was right all along no matter the outcome.

[WhiteTrash]

Marquette has a head coach, five assistants, a Director of Program Development and a Director of Video & Analytics.

As long as someone, or a couple people, are doing "GM duties" as part of their role, they have it covered. They don't really need someone with a "GM" title.

So maybe let's see how it goes without getting all negative.

That's fair. My point was that a program having a GM has nothing to due with the competency of the HC. Shaka has the ability to due every job at MU better than anyone on the staff, he just doesn't have the time to do every job.

As I mentioned previously, Utah has 9 US college scouts in addition to the HS and international scouts. Maybe they are an anomaly, but a staff like that can't all report to the HC. 

[The Sultan]

That's fair. My point was that a program having a GM has nothing to due with the competency of the HC. Shaka has the ability to due every job at MU better than anyone on the staff, he just doesn't have the time to do every job.

As I mentioned previously, Utah has 9 US college scouts in addition to the HS and international scouts. Maybe they are an anomaly, but a staff like that can't all report to the HC. 

I have no idea if that is a good use of resources or not though. Paying a bunch of scouts may be way less effective than putting that money toward NIL.

[panda]

Not just Big East ready.  Potential first (James), second (Parham), and third (Stevens) All-Big East team candidates. 

That's a good start with the development of others, freshmen, RS freshmen and portal players who will surround them. 

Yes - and then beyond those 3 are freshmen who've never played a college basketball game and others who have and are not ready for the bright lights. Lots of big holes to fill.

[panda]

I will declare I was right all along no matter the outcome.

Lol

[MuMark]

I will declare I was right all along no matter the outcome.

It will be fun to see them hold each other accountable for the rest of time......

[willie warrior]

What position? Having one of the most sought after players in the country on our roster for possibly 3 more seasons?

Shaka hasn't missed the NCAAs in Milwaukee, until probably next week. Being willing to use the transfer portal is a bigger development than adding a GM would ever be. We are fine.

Not everything needs to be a house fire.

What position? Bottom of BEast, 20 loss season, worst season in 60 years, no invite to the dance. Yeah-that position.

[Scoop Snoop]

I will declare I was right all along no matter the outcome.

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[Vander Blue Man Group]

Would a coach with a modern approach to roster building lead us to a 20 loss season this year?

Shaka tried something different.  It worked really well until it didn't.  Instead of continuing down that path the program is pivoting to using the portal. 

Personally, I'll put my faith in his entire track record of winning as opposed to one horrendous season.

[GoldenEagles03]

What position? Bottom of BEast, 20 loss season, worst season in 60 years, no invite to the dance. Yeah-that position.

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Well sure, but that has more to do with the staffs willingness to stick with retention and avoid the portal.

They've already addressed the fact that they are adapting. A GM wasn't having a better portal than Kolek, OMax, Morsell, Kuath. Sorry. They weren't.

This staff can succeed without a GM. If they show that they somehow cannot keep up in the portal, I'll join your side. We will be fine so long as we use the portal.

[panda]

Shaka tried something different.  It worked really well until it didn't.  Instead of continuing down that path the program is pivoting to using the portal. 

Personally, I'll put my faith in his entire track record of winning as opposed to one horrendous season.

Taking experienced transfers made his system work.

Not hoping Caedin Hamilton and tre Norman would develop.

[GoldenEagles03]

I will declare I was right all along no matter the outcome.

Why the hate all the time?

I don't care if I'm right or wrong. None of that matters to me. I just want Marquette to be good and I think Shaka and staff are plenty capable of doing that as is.

[The Sultan]

Why the hate all the time?

It was a joke

[Pakuni]

Shaka tried something different.  It worked really well until it didn't.  Instead of continuing down that path the program is pivoting to using the portal. 

Personally, I'll put my faith in his entire track record of winning as opposed to one horrendous season.

When did it work really well? When he was winning with mostly transfers and Wojo recruits?

I have no doubt he'll enact a course correction, and am on board with giving him every opportunity to do that, but it wouldn't be accurate to suggest that what he tried this year is the same thing as what he did in previous seasons.

[GoFastAndWin]

Shaka tried something different.  It worked really well until it didn't.  Instead of continuing down that path the program is pivoting to using the portal. 

Personally, I'll put my faith in his entire track record of winning as opposed to one horrendous season.

What if the loss was the win? What if everything happened exactly as it had to for MU to be a force again in the near future?

  As much as I like and feel terrible for SJ, his injury made Nigel's ascension to starting PG possible. Had Zaide not had his moment of discontent, Adrian would not have gotten the PT and his emergence would've been delayed. Had there not been a dearth of options or talent on the interior, Royce wouldn't have changed up his game to become the inside force he has always been capable of being. DO is on the precipice and looks poised to break out next season.

  Ladies and gentlemen, we are not that far away, and I for one think Shaka is managing the season well, all things considered. If a couple things went the other way and we were .500 right now, but with less of a vision on the emergence NJ,AS,and RP, would that be so much better?

 

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Taking experienced transfers made his system work.

Not hoping Caedin Hamilton and tre Norman would develop.

You mean someone like OMax, who transferred after averaging 10 MPG and 2.5 PPG his freshman year?

[GoldenEagles03]

It was a joke

Fair enough

[Vander Blue Man Group]

When did it work really well? When he was winning with mostly transfers and Wojo recruits?

I have no doubt he'll enact a course correction, and am on board with giving him every opportunity to do that, but it wouldn't be accurate to suggest that what he tried this year is the same thing as what he did in previous seasons.

Aside from his first year, when he had to bring in transfers to literally field a team, it is what he did.  He retained and developed.  To say otherwise is disingenuous. 

[Vander Blue Man Group]

What if the loss was the win? What if everything happened exactly as it had to for MU to be a force again in the near future?

  As much as I like and feel terrible for SJ, his injury made Nigel's ascension to starting PG possible. Had Zaide not had his moment of discontent, Adrian would not have gotten the PT and his emergence would've been delayed. Had there not been a dearth of options or talent on the interior, Royce wouldn't have changed up his game to become the inside force he has always been capable of being. DO is on the precipice and looks poised to break out next season.

  Ladies and gentlemen, we are not that far away, and I for one think Shaka is managing the season well, all things considered. If a couple things went the other way and we were .500 right now, but with less of a vision on the emergence NJ,AS,and RP, would that be so much better?

 

I posted something like this recently.  This season has been absolutely brutal, but it might have been what was necessary to push the program forward in the long run. 

[panda]

You mean someone like OMax, who transferred after averaging 10 MPG and 2.5 PPG his freshman year?

He was a recognized sought after high potential player.

I am talking about Kuath, morsell and kolek. Three proven players which took a team in turmoil and maintained tournament status.

[panda]

I posted something like this recently.  This season has been absolutely brutal, but it might have been what was necessary to push the program forward in the long run. 

James and parham very easily would've played over jones (if healthy) and Hamilton (lol).

Steven's was already playing around 20 or so minutes before Lowry left.

Nothing revolutionary here

[Vander Blue Man Group]

James and parham very easily would've played over jones (if healthy) and Hamilton (lol).

Steven's was already playing around 20 or so minutes before Lowry left.

Nothing revolutionary here

You're completely missing the point, which is not surprising.

[panda]

You're completely missing the point, which is not surprising.

What's the point then? Several talented players play 95% of the minutes because no one else on the team has a pulse?

[Vander Blue Man Group]

What's the point then? Several talented players play 95% of the minutes because no one else on the team has a pulse?

The point is we're likely better off going forward because hitting rock bottom forced a change in approach. 

If this turned out to be a bubble team, the season would have been more enjoyable but it likely would have prolonged the previous roster building philosophy.