I've changed my mind

[rocky_warrior]

No chance.

Ok, a couple free years for you too if correct!

[rocky_warrior]

I went back and watched the SJU video again.  He never once leaned that way, or had the same mannerisms toward that sleeve.

Shaka is going to do things his way.

Even the gametime talk about journaling from his losing season at Texas today enforced that. "It's not about me, it's about the players"

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Serious question: Can we really expect any portal additions next year to be *that* much better than Ross and Gold?  If we found out we were adding a 6'4 slasher who averaged 14.5ppg and a 6'11 big who averaged 8 and 6 and could step out and hit the occasional three pointer, we'd probably be ecstatic.  I'm not saying it's impossible, but without dropping a bag, I'm not sure how much of an upgrade we can expect from those two.

That's too simplistic.

Are the hypothetical transfers shooting 41% from the field and 26-28% from 3 point range?

If so, that's a problem. If they're much more efficient that's a different story.

Is the new center a rim protector?

It's more about how they get to those numbers.

[1SE]

metrically like a bubble team

[WhiteTrash]

Rocky seems to be trying to speak Shaka's dismissal into happening. 

[rocky_warrior]

Rocky seems to be trying to speak Shaka's dismissal into happening. 

Oh geeze.  Not you too.  The "two free years" floodgates are hard to close. 

[WhiteTrash]

Oh geeze.  Not you too.  The "two free years" floodgates are hard to close. 

 

[rocky_warrior]

 

Next thing we know @5DollarPitcher will claim he wishes we were DePaul. The world truly has a cycle.

[mix it up]

You think the key alumni givers are happy to dole out money to most of these below average players? Doubt it. Times will change drastically or say good bye to the Coach.  By the way, Shaka's offensive strategy, watching NJ dribble around is pathetic, the other 3 olayers just stand around

NJ was doing his Markus Howard imitation on Marcus Howard day

[mileskishnish72]

Well yeah.  I'm still not convinced Shaka will run anybody off.

A couple of Shaka quotes from the post-DePaul presser:

"We've had our difficulties at times this year." (no sh!t)
"I choose to see the things that our guys can do." (He chooses to not see the things they can't do? Like rebounding, boxing out, making three's, making FT's?)

You may be right, Rock, but it makes for a depressing summer and likely another dismally depressing season. This team is very bad and they need substantial help. If Shaka can't see that, and do something about it, we're screwed.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

I do not understand why people put so much credence into what is said at an after-game presser yet don't take Shaka's word for it when he and the program have clearly said the roster building strategy will change. 

[The Sultan]

I do not understand why people put so much credence into what is said at an after-game presser yet don't take Shaka's word for it when he and the program have clearly said the roster building strategy will change. 

I agree with you completely. I don't think people fully understand that Shaka will be coaching for his job next year. Shaka knows this. He also knows he can't just replace Zaide and that's it.

This isn't just a down year. This is a monumental failure of a season we are talking about. We are literally going to have a worse year winning percentage-wise than any year under Bob Dukiet!

Mike Deane and Wojo were fired after going ONE GAME under .500. Do you really think those who write the checks are going to put up with another season remotely close to this one?

[Billy Hoyle]

I do not understand why people put so much credence into what is said at an after-game presser yet don't take Shaka's word for it when he and the program have clearly said the roster building strategy will change. 

I have to actually see it to believe it. I hold skepticism that, after all the building and promotion of the RGV brand by not just Shaka but also Broeker and President Kimo, there will be substantial changes.

[Elonsmusk]

I agree with you completely. I don't think people fully understand that Shaka will be coaching for his job next year. Shaka knows this. He also knows he can't just replace Zaide and that's it.

This isn't just a down year. This is a monumental failure of a season we are talking about. We are literally going to have a worse year winning percentage-wise than any year under Bob Dukiet!

Mike Deane and Wojo were fired after going ONE GAME under .500. Do you really think those who write the checks are going to put up with another season remotely close to this one?

Drama king. Mike Deane and Wojo in the same context as Shaka?  If you think Shaka is "coaching for his job" next year, let's just hope those in charge aren't as dense as you.

[The Sultan]

Drama king. Mike Deane and Wojo in the same context as Shaka?  If you think Shaka is "coaching for his job" next year, let's just hope those in charge aren't as dense as you.

No drama. Stone cold facts. He 100% is coaching for his job next year. He doesn't have to win a national championship. He likely would not even need to make the NCAAs.

But if you think he can survive another year like this one, you are kidding yourself.  And why would you want him around as coach if he does?

[The Thing]

Drama king. Mike Deane and Wojo in the same context as Shaka?  If you think Shaka is "coaching for his job" next year, let's just hope those in charge aren't as dense as you.

If Shaka has a similar record next year his seat will be on fire.

[muwarrior69]

I agree with you completely. I don't think people fully understand that Shaka will be coaching for his job next year. Shaka knows this. He also knows he can't just replace Zaide and that's it.

This isn't just a down year. This is a monumental failure of a season we are talking about. We are literally going to have a worse year winning percentage-wise than any year under Bob Dukiet!

Mike Deane and Wojo were fired after going ONE GAME under .500. Do you really think those who write the checks are going to put up with another season remotely close to this one?

I am not saying he will be fired and though it is highly unlikely it is a possibility, he just may resign as he no longer wants to coach in this new era of college basketball. If CH, JC and one of Sean, Tre or DO are not gone it will be difficult, even with 4 transfers, to turn next season around, unless the league stinks like it has this season.

We live in interesting times, not just for Marquette, but for the Big East as well.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

I have to actually see it to believe it. I hold skepticism that, after all the building and promotion of the RGV brand by not just Shaka but also Broeker and President Kimo, there will be substantial changes.

I personally don't think RGV and using the portal need to be mutually exclusive.  I don't think this turns into something where multiple transfers are added every year unless Shaka completely biffs an entire class again.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

I am not saying he will be fired and though it is highly unlikely it is a possibility, he just may resign as he no longer wants to coach in this new era of college basketball. If CH, JC and one of Sean, Tre or DO are not gone it will be difficult, even with 4 transfers, to turn next season around, unless the league stinks like it has this season.

We live in interesting times, not just for Marquette, but for the Big East as well.

He's given absolutely zero indication that he no longer wants to coach in this new environment.  He's young, he's competitive, he makes a lot of money, and he knows how good he has it at Marquette.  I'd be absolutely shocked if he pulls a Jay Wright or Tony Bennett.

Furthermore, 4 transfers are not necessary for this to be a tourney team next season. 

Also, as long as 3 spots open up, it doesn't matter who leaves, as long as it is not Nigel, Adrien, or Royce.   

[Billy Hoyle]

I personally don't think RGV and using the portal need to be mutually exclusive.  I don't think this turns into something where multiple transfers are added every year unless Shaka completely biffs an entire class again.

I agree, which is why it's so frustrating that we make it a point for the media to report we're one of the only P4+ BE teams that has taken no transfers. When we played MSU in 2023, it was a battle of the only tourney teams that didn't take any transfers the previous recruiting cycle, and the next year MSU took some. When we played Purdue in 2024, it was the same, then Purdue took one in 2025. Meanwhile, MU is plastering "RGV" up in the arena, has its own RGV merchandise line, and is promoting it every chance it can. That's why I'm skeptical, RGV has been promoted as the "we don't take any transfers and we're better than everyone else for that" approach.

[MuggsyB]

Look, we cannot run this team back as it's presently constituted.  And if we have this obligation based on NIL or "relationships" it should be reexamined immediately and pivot to here's the door.  Write them checks if necessary.  Either you're good enough to contribute at MU and high D-1 programs, or you're not.  This isn't 4th grade kickball.

We have needs.  Many, many, many, needs.  I like our trio of Nigel, Royce, and Adrien.  Damarius is a question mark but has shown flashes.  We may or may not have immediate help from our recruiting class.  This isn't enough and it's not debatable.  If Shaka refuses to adjust, and we see these same guys that cannot play donning MU unis, we have a serious problem.  And it's a problem that cannot linger for another year. 

I like Shaka a lot. As I've said before I believe he will make that pivot and find pieces in the portal.  We know the man can coach and develop players.  You don't luck into back to back #2 seeds.  But all that said, the discussion shouldn't be will so and so players be back at MU next season.  It should be who will be on our roster replacing them to bring us back to relevancy.  What I'm saying is if Shaka refuses to do the obvious, by the recruiting/portal spring/summer, we have to go another direction.

[The Sultan]

No drama. Stone cold facts. He 100% is coaching for his job next year. He doesn't have to win a national championship. He likely would not even need to make the NCAAs.

But if you think he can survive another year like this one, you are kidding yourself.  And why would you want him around as coach if he does?

And here's the deal....

I have seen enough of Shaka to know that he can get this done. I 100% believe that this team can be significantly better next year...but it needs more talent.

Replacing one guy isn't going to do it.