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The Sultan

Quote from: Elonsmusk on Today at 03:13:27 PMHe got burned by the lack of improvement by Chase, Ben, Zaide, Caedin, and Tre.  Most Scoopers didn't think Chase would take a step back toward performing as one of the worst players in the Big East, nor that Zaide wouldn't take a big step up.

Are you suggesting that a coach has no control over player improvement?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

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Elonsmusk

Quote from: The Sultan on Today at 03:41:24 PMAre you suggesting that a coach has no control over player improvement?

I'm suggesting a coach can't make baskets for his players.  1st half of the year it was almost beyond belief how many layups/shots at the basket we missed, along with wide open 3s.

Do you think Shaka forgot how to develop players in 1 summer in a 15 year coaching career?  Kolek, Oso, Kam, Stevie, Jop all improved to varying degrees under Shaka. But yep, he forgot how to develop players last summer. 

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink - applies to our players shooting this year, and also the juvenile views of you, Panda, Pakuni, and a handful of other ignorant Scoopers who want to take shots at the best coach MU has had in decades.  Okay, Buzz was probably as good - but he wasn't PC enough for your kind.

Zog from Margo

Quote from: Elonsmusk on Today at 05:28:49 PMI'm suggesting a coach can't make baskets for his players.  1st half of the year it was almost beyond belief how many layups/shots at the basket we missed, along with wide open 3s.

Do you think Shaka forgot how to develop players in 1 summer in a 15 year coaching career?  Kolek, Oso, Kam, Stevie, Jop all improved to varying degrees under Shaka. But yep, he forgot how to develop players last summer. 

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink - applies to our players shooting this year, and also the juvenile views of you, Panda, Pakuni, and a handful of other ignorant Scoopers who want to take shots at the best coach MU has had in decades.  Okay, Buzz was probably as good - but he wasn't PC enough for your kind.

He apparently forgot how to evaluate talent. And he's  never seemed to understand the type of physical players a team needs in the BE.

Pakuni

Quote from: Elonsmusk on Today at 05:28:49 PMI'm suggesting a coach can't make baskets for his players.  1st half of the year it was almost beyond belief how many layups/shots at the basket we missed, along with wide open 3s.

It's especially hard when you recruit players who are bad at shooting.

QuoteOkay, Buzz was probably as good - but he wasn't PC enough for your kind.

Reporting sex assault allegations is woke.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Elonsmusk on Today at 05:28:49 PMI'm suggesting a coach can't make baskets for his players.  1st half of the year it was almost beyond belief how many layups/shots at the basket we missed, along with wide open 3s.

Do you think Shaka forgot how to develop players in 1 summer in a 15 year coaching career?  Kolek, Oso, Kam, Stevie, Jop all improved to varying degrees under Shaka. But yep, he forgot how to develop players last summer. 

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink - applies to our players shooting this year, and also the juvenile views of you, Panda, Pakuni, and a handful of other ignorant Scoopers who want to take shots at the best coach MU has had in decades.  Okay, Buzz was probably as good - but he wasn't PC enough for your kind.
Yeah, that's just as likely as Shaka forgetting how to evaluate the talent and the development of his players in one summer after 15 years of coaching.

Nether happened. Shaka knew what was coming this season way before everyone. 

PointWarrior

No silly - it's the "metrics" of a bubble team.  Slurp, slurp those handpicked metrics. 



Quote from: IL Warrior on Today at 04:01:09 PMReally looking like a bubble team today!

Zog from Margo

Quote from: WhiteTrash on Today at 05:57:32 PMYeah, that's just as likely as Shaka forgetting how to evaluate the talent and the development of his players in one summer after 15 years of coaching.

Nether happened. Shaka knew what was coming this season way before everyone. 


I wish he would have told me before season tickets went on sale. I would have opted for some in the rafters.

I like Shaka, but this season was coaching malpractice. You can choose your poison: poor development; poor strategy; poor recruiting; poor rotations, etc. Needless to say, seasons as inept as this are exceptionally rare at MU and very rare at any solid program.

The Sultan

Quote from: Elonsmusk on Today at 05:28:49 PMI'm suggesting a coach can't make baskets for his players.  1st half of the year it was almost beyond belief how many layups/shots at the basket we missed, along with wide open 3s.

Do you think Shaka forgot how to develop players in 1 summer in a 15 year coaching career?  Kolek, Oso, Kam, Stevie, Jop all improved to varying degrees under Shaka. But yep, he forgot how to develop players last summer. 

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink - applies to our players shooting this year, and also the juvenile views of you, Panda, Pakuni, and a handful of other ignorant Scoopers who want to take shots at the best coach MU has had in decades.  Okay, Buzz was probably as good - but he wasn't PC enough for your kind.

So we aren't supposed to make legitimate criticisms of this team? So whatever is good is his doing, but anything bad is on the players?

Regardless you have decided to just Shaka off the hook for this season. Very odd.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

rocky_warrior

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Quote from: The Sultan on Today at 06:19:12 PManything bad is on the players?

Nonsense, ners thinks blaming players is a despicable act by fans.

Quote from: Elonsmusk on November 04, 2025, 12:59:04 PMTalk about jumping to some negative conclusions after 1 game!  A game in which we set a program record for kills, held the opposition to .69 points per possession, and won by 27 on a night where we shoot 5-24 from three - I was very pleased.

Chase Ross was running A LOT of PG during the game - that's the answer to your question about after SJ/Nigel.

Lowery is going to be a stud.  Stevens looks like a great wing.  Nigel showed great promise.  Gold was okay. Owens started slow, but finished well. Tre Norman played a very nice game.  Josh Clark?  Talk about some serious upside potential.  The two guys who didn't play as well as we might expect - Royce and Caedin.

I'd be shocked if this isn't an NCAA team, even if it is a poor shooting 3 point team.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Elonsmusk on Today at 05:28:49 PMI'm suggesting a coach can't make baskets for his players.  1st half of the year it was almost beyond belief how many layups/shots at the basket we missed, along with wide open 3s.

Do you think Shaka forgot how to develop players in 1 summer in a 15 year coaching career?  Kolek, Oso, Kam, Stevie, Jop all improved to varying degrees under Shaka. But yep, he forgot how to develop players last summer. 

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink - applies to our players shooting this year, and also the juvenile views of you, Panda, Pakuni, and a handful of other ignorant Scoopers who want to take shots at the best coach MU has had in decades.  Okay, Buzz was probably as good - but he wasn't PC enough for your kind.

Your opinion is noted, Mrs. Shaka.
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