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How many should Shaka take/cut

1 (Lowery's void)
2 (Lowery's spot +1)
3 (Lowery's spot +2)
4 (Lowery's spot +3)
5 (Lowery's spot +4)
=>6 (Overhaulshima)

MU82

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on Today at 04:04:55 PMIn the of those who didn't improve, you can't squeeze juice from a rock.

Yup. It's amazing that more talented players to begin with are more likely to improve.
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Zog from Margo

Quote from: MU82 on Today at 04:02:04 PMI understand your skepticism, however ...

Just because Lowery, Hamilton, Jones and Norman didn't improve, does that prevent James, Stevens, Parham, Owens and Phillips from improving?

Your assumption is the opposite of those who assumed that because Oso, Kolek, Kam, Jop and Stevie improved, it meant that Lowery, Hamilton, Jones and Norman would improve.

That was a fallacy, and your assumption could very well be a fallacy, too.

It could be, but can you count on that development? Owens did not improve from his freshman year and arguably regressed. During the first half of the season, Parham was worse than last year. During the second half of this season he seems to have shown some improvement over last year but I'm not sure it was a dramatic jump. James and Stevens might be the best players Shaka has recruited as freshman. How much better can James get? He can cut down on TOs but he'll need a much better supporting cast for that to happen IMO. Phillips has a chance to improve but he's still awfully thin at this stage. Frankly, all of these guys will need to improve just to replace Gold and Ross. Without a big contribution from newcomers, this does not look like a tournament contender to me. Shaka needs to have hit it with the redhirts, incoming freshmen, and/or portal players. Transfers seem like the safest bet.

BCHoopster

If Shaka finds the right players, James should improve in areas other than scoring, more assists and less turnovers. 

Jay Bee

"They were getting ready to perform a little of the old in-out, in-out"

I think this idea of Nigel's turnovers going down has been brought up a million times by diff posters.

Would be cool, but I can't see it — 14% next year is as low as I could go at this point, but something similar to this year feels more likely and is fine
The portal is NOT closed.

Captain Quette

Perhaps the bottom 4 or 5 got $200k each, under RGV as BC said. However, if we are to believe 3 to 4 new transfer  players getting paid plus more cash for NJ, royce, and Steven's. Then that $1mm for the bottom 4 to 5 likely gets allocated to other, higher performing players moving forward. We could also have fewer scholarship players on roster and use walkons. It's not too crazy.

Jay Bee

Quote from: Captain Quette on Today at 05:08:31 PMPerhaps the bottom 4 or 5 got $200k each, under RGV as BC said. However, if we are to believe 3 to 4 new transfer  players getting paid plus more cash for NJ, royce, and Steven's. Then that $1mm for the bottom 4 to 5 likely gets allocated to other, higher performing players moving forward. We could also have fewer scholarship players on roster and use walkons. It's not too crazy.

It is crazy. Paying a guy $200k doesn't take away $200k from your top guys
The portal is NOT closed.

BCHoopster

If MU wants to get in the game there NLI money will have to up to 10-12M!

The Sultan

Quote from: BCHoopster on Today at 05:55:57 PMIf MU wants to get in the game there NLI money will have to up to 10-12M!

*their
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Jay Bee

Quote from: The Sultan on Today at 05:59:15 PM*their

(and NIL vs. NLI; and 'go' or something else needs to be added)

I heard Bill Murray's kid's only hesitation with the BC job is BCHoopster.
The portal is NOT closed.

panda

Quote from: Jay Bee on Today at 06:02:35 PM(and NIL vs. NLI; and 'go' or something else needs to be added)

I heard Bill Murray's kid's only hesitation with the BC job is BCHoopster.

It's stands for been chillin not Boston college smh

MU82

Quote from: Zog from Margo on Today at 04:18:57 PMIt could be, but can you count on that development? Owens did not improve from his freshman year and arguably regressed. During the first half of the season, Parham was worse than last year. During the second half of this season he seems to have shown some improvement over last year but I'm not sure it was a dramatic jump. James and Stevens might be the best players Shaka has recruited as freshman. How much better can James get? He can cut down on TOs but he'll need a much better supporting cast for that to happen IMO. Phillips has a chance to improve but he's still awfully thin at this stage. Frankly, all of these guys will need to improve just to replace Gold and Ross. Without a big contribution from newcomers, this does not look like a tournament contender to me. Shaka needs to have hit it with the redhirts, incoming freshmen, and/or portal players. Transfers seem like the safest bet.

You can't "count on" anything. Players might improve, might regress or might stay the same. That's life ... which, by the way, you can't count on, either.

Nobody - not one single Scooper - is saying we don't need to bring in talented transfers.

But you really don't think second half of this season Parham was much better than freshman Parham? You really think Owens regressed from freshman to sophomore year? OK ... I guess we were watching different games.
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Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: Zog from Margo on Today at 02:16:26 PMIf Shaka only brings in 3, he'll have to hit on them all.

MU was a terrible shooting team. Even though MU ranked highly in shot quality, their 3pt% was ranked 289th and their 2pt% was 146th. Despite being a horrendous 3pt shooting team, MU ended the season 90th in 3pt attempts per game. That was down from 68th at the first of the year. In short, there was a big disconnect between how MU wanted to play and how they recruited.

MU was 320th in defensive rebounding percentage. MU was 215th in offensive rebounding percentage. It is fairly obvious that no returning players who were active this year could rebound and this was another major roster problem.

On defense, MU was 131st in opponent EFG%. That's one spot below Valpo. Frankly, I see no excuse for MU being that poor defensively coming into this season.

Those seem like some big issues to solve for MU to be a tournament team next season. Given how little development we saw out of returning players this year, I think MU needs to look primarily at newcomers to provide an upgrade.

Where did Ben and Chase rank in 3pt attempts and what were their percentages?

Zog from Margo

Just a few stats that I found:

Both Owens and Parham improved in offensive rating. Each had a worse defensive rating.

Owens' EFG% improved from just under 43% to just over 47%. Owens' TO% increased from 13.3% to 18.6%. His usage decreased from 17.6% to 16.8%. His rebounding percentage improved.

Parham's usage did increase from 19.6 to 20.1. His defensive rebounding percentage pretty much remained flat at 10%. His offensive rebounding percentage improved from 11.1% to 13.3%. His TO rate increased from 7.1 to 11.6. His EFG% increases from 49.4 to 58.4.



MU82

Yes, you're right, Parham improved, and by quite a bit.

Owens went from having almost no presence at all as a freshman to positively impacting a few wins this past season, especially the first one vs Providence. And as already has been pointed out, Owens' defense improved markedly as his soph season went on.

There's still plenty of room for both to get better, and here's hoping they do. They might not. But they might.

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