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wadesworld

Quote from: Tha Hound on March 25, 2026, 11:04:23 PMAppears he can shoot the 3 but that's about it. Underwhelming to say the least.

Scoop all year: WE NEED TO RECRUIT SHOOTERS!

Scoop when it's reported we're interested in a shooter: All this guy can do is shoot. Hard pass!

BCHoopster

Maybe the shooter on the team may take the summer off

MU82

Quote from: Zog from Margo on March 25, 2026, 09:44:35 PMWouldn't it be better to use a roster spot on a player that has a reasonable chance to develop than on one who hasn't shown close to sufficient progression over the last 3 years?

Yes. And I'm not sure any Scooper is arguing differently.

What some are saying, however, is that if Player X happens to be the 15th man on the roster, it won't automatically doom the 2026-27 Marquette basketball team to failure.
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The Sultan

Quote from: Tha Hound on March 25, 2026, 11:04:23 PMAppears he can shoot the 3 but that's about it. Underwhelming to say the least.

Incredible.
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Hards Alumni

Quote from: wadesworld on March 25, 2026, 11:30:27 PMScoop all year: WE NEED TO RECRUIT SHOOTERS!

Scoop when it's reported we're interested in a shooter: All this guy can do is shoot. Hard pass!

This is exactly what I meant when I said I was excited to see how disappointed scoop was going to be with the transfers.  Already paying dividends!

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: MU82 on Today at 12:53:16 AMYes. And I'm not sure any Scooper is arguing differently.

What some are saying, however, is that if Player X happens to be the 15th man on the roster, it won't automatically doom the 2026-27 Marquette basketball team to failure.

Correct. Not sure why this is so difficult to grasp.

brewcity77

Quote from: Tha Hound on March 25, 2026, 11:04:23 PMAppears he can shoot the 3 but that's about it. Underwhelming to say the least.

Agreed. If we have the financial wherewithal we're hearing, a player who can't dribble, pass, or play a lick of defense isn't what we need. This guy isn't a Big East starter. He shot well last year but was mediocre at Wake and struggled getting inside. Davidson let him get inside but he didn't convert when he got there. There will be better options.

Zog from Margo

Quote from: MU82 on Today at 12:53:16 AMYes. And I'm not sure any Scooper is arguing differently.

What some are saying, however, is that if Player X happens to be the 15th man on the roster, it won't automatically doom the 2026-27 Marquette basketball team to failure.

I agree that it wouldn't doom the season, but it would be poor roster management and poor roster management is what MU needs to remedy.

JakeBarnes

Quote from: brewcity77 on Today at 07:10:43 AMAgreed. If we have the financial wherewithal we're hearing, a player who can't dribble, pass, or play a lick of defense isn't what we need. This guy isn't a Big East starter. He shot well last year but was mediocre at Wake and struggled getting inside. Davidson let him get inside but he didn't convert when he got there. There will be better options.

BYU definitely won't let him convert inside.
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Hards Alumni

Quote from: JakeBarnes on Today at 08:04:35 AMBYU definitely won't let him convert inside.

You ain't never heard of soaking?

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: MU82 on Today at 12:53:16 AMYes. And I'm not sure any Scooper is arguing differently.

What some are saying, however, is that if Player X happens to be the 15th man on the roster, it won't automatically doom the 2026-27 Marquette basketball team to failure.

Quote from: Zog from Margo on Today at 07:26:21 AMI agree that it wouldn't doom the season, but it would be poor roster management and poor roster management is what MU needs to remedy.

I'm curious. Can you name a school who's 15th scholarship is going to a player as good as or better than Caedin?

I think you will find most schools either don't use their 15th scholarship or use it for walk on level players. A lot of schools do the same for their 13th and 14th scholarships as well. By your logic, most schools are engaging in poor roster management.

Caedin's presence on the roster was not the problem. The problem was how much he was utilized.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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Jay Bee

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on Today at 08:23:50 AMCaedin's presence on the roster was not the problem. The problem was how much he was utilized.

This is true. If he's really a great practice player -- and he's got size so I kind of like that from a scout team perspective (pawz) - no problem with him on the roster IF the staff stops with the nonsense. Can they? Dunno.

At this point, just need to find a couple more openings somewhere to fill in the potential 'regular rotation' and we're good.

Sadly, my 'goal' is that we at least look like a bubble team heading into the season. 
The portal is NOT closed.

panda

Quote from: Jay Bee on Today at 08:30:11 AMThis is true. If he's really a great practice player -- and he's got size so I kind of like that from a scout team perspective (pawz) - no problem with him on the roster IF the staff stops with the nonsense. Can they? Dunno.

At this point, just need to find a couple more openings somewhere to fill in the potential 'regular rotation' and we're good.

Sadly, my 'goal' is that we at least look like a bubble team heading into the season. 

hey bee jay first time long time -

How many roster spots do you believe need to be turned over to get to the bubble team spot? Where do you see the growth occurring from returning players? How many players are needed if we want to look better than a bubble team? I understand it's hard to project some of this without knowing the players coming in, but you love things that are hard #pawz

I'll hang up and listen

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Jay Bee on Today at 08:30:11 AMThis is true. If he's really a great practice player -- and he's got size so I kind of like that from a scout team perspective   

I had the same thought. I think there's value in having a guy who is actually the size of a high major center being on the scout team, rather than practicing against a 6'6 195 lb kid.

If we need the scholarship for a better player, then by all means cut him. But if we have other players leave and bring in enough transfers to meet our goals next year, I'm fine having him at the end of the bench.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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Jay Bee

Quote from: panda on Today at 08:35:29 AMhey bee jay first time long time -

How many roster spots do you believe need to be turned over to get to the bubble team spot? Where do you see the growth occurring from returning players? How many players are needed if we want to look better than a bubble team? I understand it's hard to project some of this without knowing the players coming in, but you love things that are hard #pawz

I'll hang up and listen

OK. Just thought through this and the roster and have concluded we have a lot of work and praying to do:

Need 3 additions from the portal. I would like a center, a big guard/wing (can play a tiny bit of point is a plus), and someone else. At least one has to be a guy who can carry heavy usage well on offense.

STARTERS:
Nigel - worried about his sophomore lift - really difficult for me to decide on where I'd project his 3FG% next season. If his usage dropped from 30.5% to say 27-28% and his ORtg grew to 110ish, great. I'm just searching for obvious areas he can improve statistically, and not finding them tbh.

Royce - he has to be really good. Would love for his d-reb to be good, but I can't project that. It was obvious in high school that he could be counted on to help on the o-boards, but would be weak early on the d-glass. Where does his usage land? Can he be good at say 24%? I think it requires 3FG% to be solid -- I think he has it in him (pawz) but still need to decide if I'd feel better projecting him at 31% or 36-38%. I don't know. But, higher usage while maintaining efficiency, better d-reb, and marked improvement on 3FG% would be amazing. Gonna be tough.

After that, I would have all other starting spots open.

Adrien - he shot quite well. I think his comps are maybe a bit difficult tbh. Came in grown for a frosh, and that's why I lean toward projecting his sophomore bump to be muted a bit. Can he solidly himself as a trustworthy marksman? Can he find a nice bump in FTrate? Not feeling super great on either, but they are possible and good paths to helping improve the team.

Damarius - he's still my guy pawz. Praying health and experience makes things click - super happy he's coming back, because he looks like a guy who could have gone MM, go crazy, and come back to a HM for senior year. As of now, he's an x-factor, but I hope we have others coming from the portal who are more of an x-factor.

MPII - love him, but needs tremendous growth defensively to be playable big minutes. I feel like he's a junior year arrival, but there's potential for a solid season in 2026-27.

Sheek - thinking he'll look great at times and like a RS Frosh at others. Need him to shine in games where it's needed as opposed to mostly against MM/LM. Holding out hope he's a revelation that catapults us out of the depths of the BEast. #pray

Everyone else.. just kinda hoping someone pops out -- could be one of the shooters who is so en fuego that we can't keep him off the floor. That would be cool.

From the portal.. if we got Minessale, a senior center and a shooter.. cool, let's try it out.

As the roster sits now, it's the same thing as last year -- struggling to find the higher usage guys on offense. Defensively, need to figure it out a lot sooner than we did this past season. Somewhere in the 40's for both Adj OE and Adj DE rankings and in the tourney I guess I could accept.
The portal is NOT closed.

brewcity77

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on Today at 08:46:41 AMI'm fine having him at the end of the bench.

As long as that's where he stays. My worry is that Shaka seems oddly tempted to play him. All the metrics screamed that playing Caedin and Tre together was a killer, yet there we were in the Big East Tournament with both of them on the floor together again. It could be argued that the options weren't better, but there had to be ways to juggle that roster better and we generally saw it from late January on. If he's back, it pretty much needs to be strictly as a practice or break glass in case of emergency player.

panda

Quote from: Jay Bee on Today at 08:56:26 AMOK. Just thought through this and the roster and have concluded we have a lot of work and praying to do:

Need 3 additions from the portal. I would like a center, a big guard/wing (can play a tiny bit of point is a plus), and someone else. At least one has to be a guy who can carry heavy usage well on offense.

STARTERS:
Nigel - worried about his sophomore lift - really difficult for me to decide on where I'd project his 3FG% next season. If his usage dropped from 30.5% to say 27-28% and his ORtg grew to 110ish, great. I'm just searching for obvious areas he can improve statistically, and not finding them tbh.

Royce - he has to be really good. Would love for his d-reb to be good, but I can't project that. It was obvious in high school that he could be counted on to help on the o-boards, but would be weak early on the d-glass. Where does his usage land? Can he be good at say 24%? I think it requires 3FG% to be solid -- I think he has it in him (pawz) but still need to decide if I'd feel better projecting him at 31% or 36-38%. I don't know. But, higher usage while maintaining efficiency, better d-reb, and marked improvement on 3FG% would be amazing. Gonna be tough.

After that, I would have all other starting spots open.

Adrien - he shot quite well. I think his comps are maybe a bit difficult tbh. Came in grown for a frosh, and that's why I lean toward projecting his sophomore bump to be muted a bit. Can he solidly himself as a trustworthy marksman? Can he find a nice bump in FTrate? Not feeling super great on either, but they are possible and good paths to helping improve the team.

Damarius - he's still my guy pawz. Praying health and experience makes things click - super happy he's coming back, because he looks like a guy who could have gone MM, go crazy, and come back to a HM for senior year. As of now, he's an x-factor, but I hope we have others coming from the portal who are more of an x-factor.

MPII - love him, but needs tremendous growth defensively to be playable big minutes. I feel like he's a junior year arrival, but there's potential for a solid season in 2026-27.

Sheek - thinking he'll look great at times and like a RS Frosh at others. Need him to shine in games where it's needed as opposed to mostly against MM/LM. Holding out hope he's a revelation that catapults us out of the depths of the BEast. #pray

Everyone else.. just kinda hoping someone pops out -- could be one of the shooters who is so en fuego that we can't keep him off the floor. That would be cool.

From the portal.. if we got Minessale, a senior center and a shooter.. cool, let's try it out.

As the roster sits now, it's the same thing as last year -- struggling to find the higher usage guys on offense. Defensively, need to figure it out a lot sooner than we did this past season. Somewhere in the 40's for both Adj OE and Adj DE rankings and in the tourney I guess I could accept.

Thx - I'm strongly in the camp of more new bodies coming into a bad team, the better. But there is the unquantifiable roster chemistry question that comes into place bringing in many new bodies. Ultimately, winning cures the issue but we're digging ourselves out of a deep hole.

Zog from Margo

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on Today at 08:23:50 AMI'm curious. Can you name a school who's 15th scholarship is going to a player as good as or better than Caedin?

I think you will find most schools either don't use their 15th scholarship or use it for walk on level players. A lot of schools do the same for their 13th and 14th scholarships as well. By your logic, most schools are engaging in poor roster management.

Caedin's presence on the roster was not the problem. The problem was how much he was utilized.

As we have seen, Shaka likes to take flyers on players. Wouldn't the 14th and 15th spots be where you would want to take flyers? Hamilton was a flyer and we have had three years to see what Hamilton has. Wouldn't it make more sense to use his spot for a new freshman flyer? I saw several players in the state tournament that have a good chance to develop into better players than Hamilton that MU apparently hasn't prioritized. There are likely portal players that also would be worth a flyer. If a flyer doesn't work out, why should he take a roster spot for four years? When Itejere didn't work out, he left.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: Jay Bee on Today at 08:56:26 AMOK. Just thought through this and the roster and have concluded we have a lot of work and praying to do:

Need 3 additions from the portal. I would like a center, a big guard/wing (can play a tiny bit of point is a plus), and someone else. At least one has to be a guy who can carry heavy usage well on offense.

STARTERS:
Nigel - worried about his sophomore lift - really difficult for me to decide on where I'd project his 3FG% next season. If his usage dropped from 30.5% to say 27-28% and his ORtg grew to 110ish, great. I'm just searching for obvious areas he can improve statistically, and not finding them tbh.

Royce - he has to be really good. Would love for his d-reb to be good, but I can't project that. It was obvious in high school that he could be counted on to help on the o-boards, but would be weak early on the d-glass. Where does his usage land? Can he be good at say 24%? I think it requires 3FG% to be solid -- I think he has it in him (pawz) but still need to decide if I'd feel better projecting him at 31% or 36-38%. I don't know. But, higher usage while maintaining efficiency, better d-reb, and marked improvement on 3FG% would be amazing. Gonna be tough.

After that, I would have all other starting spots open.

Adrien - he shot quite well. I think his comps are maybe a bit difficult tbh. Came in grown for a frosh, and that's why I lean toward projecting his sophomore bump to be muted a bit. Can he solidly himself as a trustworthy marksman? Can he find a nice bump in FTrate? Not feeling super great on either, but they are possible and good paths to helping improve the team.

Damarius - he's still my guy pawz. Praying health and experience makes things click - super happy he's coming back, because he looks like a guy who could have gone MM, go crazy, and come back to a HM for senior year. As of now, he's an x-factor, but I hope we have others coming from the portal who are more of an x-factor.

MPII - love him, but needs tremendous growth defensively to be playable big minutes. I feel like he's a junior year arrival, but there's potential for a solid season in 2026-27.

Sheek - thinking he'll look great at times and like a RS Frosh at others. Need him to shine in games where it's needed as opposed to mostly against MM/LM. Holding out hope he's a revelation that catapults us out of the depths of the BEast. #pray

Everyone else.. just kinda hoping someone pops out -- could be one of the shooters who is so en fuego that we can't keep him off the floor. That would be cool.

From the portal.. if we got Minessale, a senior center and a shooter.. cool, let's try it out.

As the roster sits now, it's the same thing as last year -- struggling to find the higher usage guys on offense. Defensively, need to figure it out a lot sooner than we did this past season. Somewhere in the 40's for both Adj OE and Adj DE rankings and in the tourney I guess I could accept.

Maybe I'm just too optimistic but I'm expecting more growth from Nigel, Royce, and Adrien.

With Nigel, I think the concerns about his 3pt% are fair.  I'm expecting the most growth with him in regard to really controlling the game, reducing TOs, and making his teammates better.

Defensive rebounding and defense are certainly areas where Royce needs to improve.  He improved so much offensively during conference play that I'm really intrigued with what he can be with another offseason of work and getting stronger.

With Adrien, I'm wondering if he will be able to create more off the dribble.  He had some moments where he did during the season.  I'd expect him to get better defensively as well.  If we get a poor man's Stevie on defense but a better Stevie on offense that's a really good player.

Pakuni

#844
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on Today at 08:23:50 AMI'm curious. Can you name a school who's 15th scholarship is going to a player as good as or better than Caedin?

I think you will find most schools either don't use their 15th scholarship or use it for walk on level players. A lot of schools do the same for their 13th and 14th scholarships as well. By your logic, most schools are engaging in poor roster management.

Caedin's presence on the roster was not the problem. The problem was how much he was utilized.

I don't think keeping Caedin around as this team's Jack Haley is a disaster, I just don't see the point.
I'd rather MU spend its resources on 11-12 guys who can help the team now or in the near future, rather than dilute those resources by paying 3-4 guys to serve as the equivalent of walk-ons.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Zog from Margo on Today at 09:32:05 AMAs we have seen, Shaka likes to take flyers on players. Wouldn't the 14th and 15th spots be where you would want to take flyers? Hamilton was a flyer and we have had three years to see what Hamilton has. Wouldn't it make more sense to use his spot for a new freshman flyer? I saw several players in the state tournament that have a good chance to develop into better players than Hamilton that MU apparently hasn't prioritized. There are likely portal players that also would be worth a flyer. If a flyer doesn't work out, why should he take a roster spot for four years? When Itejere didn't work out, he left.

There are 15 scholarships. We only need 8 rotation players. That's 7 scholarships for players who we don't expect to be major contributors this season. We have plenty of room.

Also, not the point, but we could have used Itejere this year.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Pakuni on Today at 09:37:21 AMI don't think keeping Caedin around as this team's Jack Haley isn't a disaster, I just don't see the point.
I'd rather MU spend its resources on 11-12 guys who can help the team now or in the near future, rather than dilute those resources by paying 3-4 guys to serve as the equivalent of walk-ons.

I'm confident the resources allotted to each player will be proportional to the value they bring.

But I do think what you're describing is why some programs with limited resources are choosing to only carrying 10 or 11 scholarship players.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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Tha Hound

Quote from: wadesworld on March 25, 2026, 11:30:27 PMScoop all year: WE NEED TO RECRUIT SHOOTERS!

Scoop when it's reported we're interested in a shooter: All this guy can do is shoot. Hard pass!
Quote from: The Sultan on Today at 02:51:09 AMIncredible.

Referencing a website of thousands as if its just one person with one voice, groundbreaking stuff.

Do one minute of research on this player. Just one! You might actually agree, in fact I'd be shocked if you didn't.


Quote from: brewcity77 on Today at 07:10:43 AMAgreed. If we have the financial wherewithal we're hearing, a player who can't dribble, pass, or play a lick of defense isn't what we need. This guy isn't a Big East starter. He shot well last year but was mediocre at Wake and struggled getting inside. Davidson let him get inside but he didn't convert when he got there. There will be better options.


Hey, someone actually did look into him, and guess what, they agree!!! Woah!

The Sultan

Quote from: Tha Hound on Today at 09:51:28 AMDo one minute of research on this player. Just one! You might actually agree, in fact I'd be shocked if you didn't.


Oh I am absolutely not doing that.
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CountryRoads

#849
If the plan is to just have Caedin/Clark be end of the bench scholarship cloggers for the next few years, then the additional open scholarships are more valuable especially if the NIL budget has increased as some have said. Even more so if our portal guys that replace Zaide, Tre, & Sean (assuming departures here) have multiple years of eligibility. Only bring them back if you think they can contribute next year. Maybe there would be room if all of the portal additions are seniors.

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