collapse

Resources

Stud of St. John's Game

No Stud when we lose.
2025-26 Season SoG Tally
Ross5
James Jr3
Parham1

'24-25 * '23-24 * '22-23
'21-22 * '20-21 * '19-20
'18-19 * '17-18 * '16-17
'15-16 * '14-15 * '13-14
'12-13 * '11-12 * '10-11

Big East Standings

Recent Posts

Recruiting as of 1/15/26 by willie warrior
[Today at 12:02:31 PM]


Transfers in/out 2025-2026 by willie warrior
[Today at 11:59:04 AM]


Georgetown game roll call 2026 by 18thandWells
[Today at 11:20:15 AM]


Shaka Smart 02/18/2026 by wiscwarrior
[Today at 10:58:13 AM]


2025-26 Big East Thread by willie warrior
[Today at 06:45:43 AM]


James/Stevens by Newsdreams
[February 22, 2026, 07:33:30 PM]


We're 3rd best! by Pakuni
[February 22, 2026, 05:04:29 PM]

Please Register - It's FREE!

The absolute only thing required for this FREE registration is a valid e-mail address. We keep all your information confidential and will NEVER give or sell it to anyone else.
Login to get rid of this box (and ads) , or signup NOW!

Next up:  @ Georgetown

Marquette
70
Marquette @
Georgetown
Date/Time: Feb 24, 2026, 6:00pm
TV: NBC SN
Schedule for 2025-26
St. John's
76

How many should Shaka take/cut

1 (Lowery's void)
2 (Lowery's spot +1)
3 (Lowery's spot +2)
4 (Lowery's spot +3)
5 (Lowery's spot +4)
=>6 (Overhaulshima)

Viper

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 21, 2026, 10:23:39 PMI'm curious - what makes someone a Shaka slurper?

I'm asking because I have a hard time disagreeing with Elon's views on Shaka and Marquette.


from January '25 to February '26, Shaka's hot pile. Views Elon doesn't mention.
Better dead, than RED

mug644

#151
Quote from: #UnleashJosh on February 21, 2026, 12:41:21 PMAny season where marquette isn't competitive is a bad a season. It doesn't matter how bad, 10-20 5-25 13-19 15-15? The goal every year should be being an ncaa tournament team. Anything lower than being on the realistic bubble is an objective failure. It doesn't matter how hard one fails.

Shaka tried something, it clearly didn't work. He gets a one season pass for the rapidly changing college atmosphere and the attempt at rgv.

Its time to rid ourselves of this sentiment, its clearly not sustainable.

This includes cutting the fat. Players like Trey who can barely find time off the bench, people like caedin who don't belong in D1 basketball, Josh gets a 2nd chance to ball.

Keeping players (and paying them) who clearly don't belong in major D1 basketball to stay on the end of the bench of 15 players is asinine.

These are nothing more then scholarshipped walk on with no hope or potential to make a difference.

If Shaka uses all 15, the end of the bench better be filled with young projects who would have a hope of being a difference maker in a couple years.

But people like sultan believe in "glue" guys.  ;D

I'm growing more and more frustrated with this bolded sentiment. To me, Shaka rightly filled in his first MU season roster with transfers, while maintain key players and bringing in at least one of his own recruits. The roster had good balance and he committed to fostering the idea of getting old and succeeding from within. There is no doubt that RGV worked, to the tune of high seeds, a double BEast championship and several NBA players. This success included last year (though folks might point out the fading at the end of the season). Sure, there are few nits that one could pick (maybe he could've brought in another big man after Oso left, maybe he could've not relied on Kam as PG last year), but overall the results justified the approach.

This year has shown the vulnerabilities of putting all eggs in the RGV basket. Caedin hasn't developed (and the hype around him last summer is now seen, rightly, as absurd) , Ben and Chase aren't the needed senior leaders, Zaide proved to be mercurial and unwilling to accept a lesser role, and on. It's been a disaster, even with the glimmer of hope of Nigel, Royce and Adrien.

But to act like this season was easily forecasted is just ludicrous. None of us should be surprised that Shaka stuck with what has been working, even if it has, for this year, proven to be his effort to make guys believe what they might do, which they now have shown that they couldn't do.

And now, Shaka has explicitly acknowledged that this year hasn't been up to par and has indicated his intention to modify his approach. He has said that he wants to keep the young core (is he implying that he'll be willing to cut the underperforming upperclassmen?) and will expand how he recruits by tapping into the portal.

So, yeah, it's been hard to be a fan this year. At the same time, I just don't get the feeling that we've been on this long slide downwards, don't have a capable coach and are unlikely to ever bounce back. (Just to be clear, I was very very concerned about Shaka's openness to change during the middle of this season. I have chosen to take his public statements about turning the page as true evolution.)

Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on February 21, 2026, 01:51:38 PMMarquette has the most losses since the 1964-1965 season staying with the status quo or close to the status quo would be...........

Would prefer to error on the the side of more transfers rather than less to get the best roster

Are you intentionally pointing out the irony there? 1964-65 was Al's first season as coach. Times have changed to be sure, yet I'm sure we're all happy that Al wasn't fired after such as disaster of a season.

willie warrior

Quote from: mug644 on February 22, 2026, 08:20:49 PMI'm growing more and more frustrated with this bolded sentiment. To me, Shaka rightly filled in his first MU season roster with transfers, while maintain key players and bringing in at least one of his own recruits. The roster had good balance and he committed to fostering the idea of getting old and succeeding from within. There is no doubt that RGV worked, to the tune of high seeds, a double BEast championship and several NBA players. This success included last year (though folks might point out the fading at the end of the season). Sure, there are few nits that one could pick (maybe he could've brought in another big man after Oso left, maybe he could've not relied on Kam as PG last year), but overall the results justified the approach.

This year has shown the vulnerabilities of putting all eggs in the RGV basket. Caedin hasn't developed (and the hype around him last summer is now seen, rightly, as absurd) , Ben and Chase aren't the needed senior leaders, Zaide proved to be mercurial and unwilling to accept a lesser role, and on. It's been a disaster, even with the glimmer of hope of Nigel, Royce and Adrien.

But to act like this season was easily forecasted is just ludicrous. None of us should be surprised that Shaka stuck with what has been working, even if it has, for this year, proven to be his effort to make guys believe what they might do, which they now have shown that they couldn't do.

And now, Shaka has explicitly acknowledged that this year hasn't been up to par and has indicated his intention to modify his approach. He has said that he wants to keep the young core (is he implying that he'll be willing to cut the underperforming upperclassmen?) and will expand how he recruits by tapping into the portal.

So, yeah, it's been hard to be a fan this year. At the same time, I just don't get the feeling that we've been on this long slide downwards, don't have a capable coach and are unlikely to ever bounce back. (Just to be clear, I was very very concerned about Shaka's openness to change during the middle of this season. I have chosen to take his public statements about turning the page as true evolution.)

Are you intentionally pointing out the irony there? 1964-65 was Al's first season as coach. Times have changed to be sure, yet I'm sure we're all happy that Al wasn't fired after such as disaster of a season.

Al just got
 there. Shaka has had 5 years and this what the 5 years have become. Two different situations.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

Pakuni

#153
Quote from: mug644 on February 22, 2026, 08:20:49 PMBut to act like this season was easily forecasted is just ludicrous. None of us should be surprised that Shaka stuck with what has been working, even if it has, for this year, proven to be his effort to make guys believe what they might do, which they now have shown that they couldn't do.


But it was easily forecasted. Not guaranteed ... there's a plausible outcome in which all the returning players took the leaps necessary to continue Shaka's run of success ... but that outcome was never likely.
When 99% of the college basketball world is using the portal to fill roster weaknesses with proven players, and your strategy is to roll the dice with development instead, it's not hard to see the potential outcome.

And I'd quibble with the notion that what Shaka tried the past two seasons is the same strategy he used in his first three.

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: Pakuni on Today at 10:56:34 AMBut it was easily forecasted. Not guaranteed ... there's a plausible in which all the returning players took the leaps necessary to continue Shaka's run of success ... but that outcome isn't likely.
When 99% of the college basketball world is using the portal to fill roster weaknesses with proven players, and you're strategy is to roll the dice with development instead, it's not hard to see the potential outcome.

And I'd quibble with the notion that what Shaka tried the past two seasons is the same strategy he used in his first three.
Some of us saw this season coming from a mile away.

mug644

Quote from: Pakuni on Today at 10:56:34 AMBut it was easily forecasted. Not guaranteed ... there's a plausible outcome in which all the returning players took the leaps necessary to continue Shaka's run of success ... but that outcome was never likely.
When 99% of the college basketball world is using the portal to fill roster weaknesses with proven players, and you're strategy is to roll the dice with development instead, it's not hard to see the potential outcome.

And I'd quibble with the notion that what Shaka tried the past two seasons is the same strategy he used in his first three.

I guess I just accept that Shaka understandably believed in the RGV approach, which had been looking successful through last year. It doesn't surprise me that he stuck with his guys, though I do worry that he and his staff did have a myopic and rosy perspective on several individual players. Still, it is important to note that "99% of the college basketball world" had roster openings that needed to be filled, allowing coaches to identify and then fill the weaknesses. MU did not have a transfer out after last season, and Shaka didn't have any scholarships available. Could Shaka have pushed out one or more players to create openings? Yea, he could've but it's just not surprising that he stuck with his approach and was confident in the growth of players. Was it a risk? I accept that it was. Has it come back to bite him? Certainly. And, does it seem that he'll change going forward, and be willing to push guys out in order to have openings that he can fill? Yes, but we shall see if he really does that. I hope he does.

willie warrior

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on Today at 11:00:23 AMSome of us saw this season coming from a mile away.
Yes we did. Maybe did not see it as this bad, but it was easily discernible through our blue and gold glasses.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

Previous topic - Next topic