Transfers in/out 2025-2026

[panda]

We have a stud freshman PG, and a stud 4 sophomore.  A very nice freshman wing in Stevens.  Phillips and Owens have potential big leaps ahead next season.  Get a solid big in the portal, and one very good wing, and the team is plenty good enough to be an NCAA team next year.

I love Stevens the prospect but Steven's the sophomore starter being leaned upon to take a single digit win team to 20ish wins? We need help man.


Also - care to address your bubble team statement ?

[Vander Blue Man Group]

By his own definition relative to Wojo, if you weren't vocally critical of Wojo he would label you a Wojoslurper.

Listen, I'm a huge Shaka fan but unlike Ners I don't think he's free from criticism.

Of course - he's accountable for this.

OMG.  And Shaka.

Who?

[rocky_warrior]

Who?

Yeah. him

[The Sultan]

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[rocky_warrior]

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It happens to the best of us

[The Sultan]

It happens to the best of us

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[Small Orange Soda]

Your mother does.

This Hamilton stuff is ridiculous. Yes, he shouldn't be at this level.

But the reason this team is awful is Chase, Ben, Zaide, Tre and Sean.

This Karoline Leavitt-esque response is fine, I guess.

The players you've mentioned have contributed in some way. They're bad though, agreed.

There are five starting spots and Hamilton is someone Shaka decided deserved one of them. I don't blame anyone who contributes money to this program for wanting an explanation.

[rocky_warrior]

This Karoline Leavitt-esque response is fine, I guess.

After that response. I have offered to fly VBMG out to meet my mother.

We'll see if he accepts.

I mean, I started it!

[Shooter McGavin]

I don't think anyone who is projected to be on the bench next year will be able to supplement our starting 5 in order to make the ncaa tournament next year if we only add 2 portal pieces.

We have yet to win a road game this year or beat a Q1 team. I really think people are not understanding how devoid of talent this team is top to bottom and how much help is needed next year to change that.

That would be different is Chase and Ben were true impact players rather than role players who more often miss in clutch situations than hit.  If Marquette had two impact players in those positions they would likely have 6-8 more wins this year and you would not think the same way. 

I want three impact transfers but two plus the big three's development plus the red shirt and true freshman are still an NCAA team IMO.

[Shooter McGavin]

No, it's not. Of all the reasons this has been a horrendous season, Hamilton's recruitment is barely relevant.

VBMG,

I agree with you a lot but Shaka's infatuation with Caedin left this team with no true backup center that could take Ben's spot competently.  Ben has had a poor offensive year and Ben being the backup would have been helpful.  Relying on Caedin as backup and Bens poor offensive play has led to a gaping hole in the lineup that a competent D1 recruit or transfer in the pipeline could have filled and may have led to more wins this year.  Maybe only two or three more wins (because I agree with you that the entire senior and junior classes are  the majority of the problem) but still more wins. 

[Small Orange Soda]

VBMG,

I agree with you a lot but Shaka's infatuation with Caedin left this team with no true backup center that could take Ben's spot competently.  Ben has had a poor offensive year and Ben being the backup would have been helpful.  Relying on Caedin as backup and Bens poor offensive play has led to a gaping hole in the lineup that a competent D1 recruit or transfer in the pipeline could have filled and may have led to more wins this year.  Maybe only two or three more wins (because I agree with you that the entire senior and junior classes are  the majority of the problem) but still more wins. 

Shaka thought he was a starting center. And I agree, the senior and junior classes are the main issue. But this is Caedin's third year in the program. Some guys simply haven't improved. Caedin should've never been recruited in the first place.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

My mother is 85.  One of the best people on the planet.

Just to clarify, I was making what I thought was a harmless mom joke. 

I'm sure your mother is lovely.

[rocky_warrior]

Just to clarify, I was making what I thought was a harmless mom joke. 

I'm sure your mother is lovely.

Hah, me too.  But really, I'll fly you out to give you a chance with her!

Really though, it's funny you've flipped on CH since you've realized he's Shaka's boy.

Hint: Ben, Chase, Tre, and Sean are in that club too

[Vander Blue Man Group]

This Karoline Leavitt-esque response is fine, I guess.

The players you've mentioned have contributed in some way. They're bad though, agreed.

There are five starting spots and Hamilton is someone Shaka decided deserved one of them. I don't blame anyone who contributes money to this program for wanting an explanation.

Not sure what was Leavitt-esque about my response.  I don't lie every time I open my mouth like she does. 

Look, Shaka's decision to start Hamilton this season remains inexplicable. 

My point was that a lightly-recruited redshirt sophomore, as bad as he is, is not the reason this team has been terrible.

The junior class is a complete zero.  Chase and Ben never developed into anything more than role players.  While I haven't seen the most recent metrics, they've also been two of the team's worst players in conference play.

VBMG,

I agree with you a lot but Shaka's infatuation with Caedin left this team with no true backup center that could take Ben's spot competently.  Ben has had a poor offensive year and Ben being the backup would have been helpful.  Relying on Caedin as backup and Bens poor offensive play has led to a gaping hole in the lineup that a competent D1 recruit or transfer in the pipeline could have filled and may have led to more wins this year.  Maybe only two or three more wins (because I agree with you that the entire senior and junior classes are  the majority of the problem) but still more wins. 

It's fine to criticize Shaka's misevaluation of the roster.  And it seems clear Shaka was going to avoid transfers until the wheels fell off, which they have. 

I really don't think having a serviceable back-up 5 would have really made any difference in how this season has played out. 

I fully agree that Caedin doesn't belong at this level but he's getting too much blame for this mess, IMO. 

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Hah, me too.  But really, I'll fly you out to give you a chance with her!

Really though, it's funny you've flipped on CH since you've realized he's Shaka's boy.

Hint: Ben, Chase, Tre, and Sean are in that club too

How have I flipped on Caedin? 

I never thought he should be starting.  I always thought he was getting too many minutes. 

I simply think he's a smaller part of the equation for why the team has sucked.  Shaka biffing on the junior and senior classes entirely is why.

[rocky_warrior]

I really don't think having a serviceable back-up 5 would have really made any difference in how this season has played out. 

Back up?  How about any serviceable 5?  That would have literally been a game changer.

[rocky_warrior]

I simply think he's a smaller part of the equation for why the team has sucked.  Shaka biffing on the junior and senior classes entirely is why.

You realize that despite the redshirt, Caedin came in with Zaide and Tre right?

[CountryRoads]

You realize that despite the redshirt, Caedin came in with Zaide and Tre right?

...and the other whiff in that class Al Amadou. Oof that was a rough class.

[BCHoopster]

Maybe the worst recruiting class ever!

[Nukem2]

Maybe the worst recruiting class ever!

Well, the one man class of Krunti Hester wins the cigar here!  The James Matthews/Brandon Bell/Carlton Christian and ultimately Dameon Mason is close behind.

[BCHoopster]

Thanks for the history lesson, I think Hester was the worse by far, the other 2 definitely sucked

[Small Orange Soda]

How have I flipped on Caedin? 

I never thought he should be starting.  I always thought he was getting too many minutes. 

I simply think he's a smaller part of the equation for why the team has sucked.  Shaka biffing on the junior and senior classes entirely is why.

Not accusing you of flipping, but the guy who the staff thought was a legitimate starting 5 in the Big East not even being a D-1 level player is a massive problem. Ross and Gold, two starters, have absolutely not lived up to expectations. But Hamilton has shown he doesn't even belong in the building. The disregard this staff has shown toward that position between him and the other zero star recruit is a major factor in this being the worst MU season in a generation.

[Pakuni]

Not accusing you of flipping, but the guy who the staff thought was a legitimate starting 5 in the Big East not even being a D-1 level player is a massive problem. Ross and Gold, two starters, have absolutely not lived up to expectations. But Hamilton has shown he doesn't even belong in the building. The disregard this staff has shown toward that position between him and the other zero star recruit is a major factor in this being the worst MU season in a generation.

Toss in Ben a well. We recruited against Loyola-Chicago and Washngton State for his services. As a borderline Big East starter, he's the best big Shaka and Co. have recruited here.

I've said it before, but Shaka's successes elsewhere and here with Oso, I believe, created an overconfidence in his ability to develop just any old tall kid into a competent big. And his recruiting efforts at the position here have reflected that. Hopefully Sheek breaks the cycle.

[Small Orange Soda]

Toss in Ben a well. We recruited against Loyola-Chicago and Washngton State for his services. As a borderline Big East starter, he's the best big Shaka and Co. have recruited here.

I've said it before, but Shaka's successes elsewhere and here with Oso, I believe, created an overconfidence in his ability to develop just any old tall kid into a competent big. And his recruiting efforts at the position here have reflected that. Hopefully Sheek breaks the cycle.

Yep. If you don't want to take transfers, then you need to be a top notch recruiter. Beating out low majors and prep schools for players is why we're here.