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How many should Shaka take/cut

1 (Lowery's void)
2 (Lowery's spot +1)
3 (Lowery's spot +2)
4 (Lowery's spot +3)
5 (Lowery's spot +4)
=>6 (Overhaulshima)

The Sultan

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on Today at 10:00:19 AMThis is the response of someone with nothing substantive to say.

If other guys leave, there is room on the roster to carry a Tre or Caedin next season without having to worry about them playing important minutes.

All that really matters is that 2 of Sean, Tre, Caedin, and Josh move on.

It's seems obvious Sean will go elsewhere. That leaves one more of the remaining three.

Personally, I think Tre has the best chance to move down a level and play significant minutes of those 3, but I have no issues if he stays as long as we're able to bring in 3 new guys.

Personally, I'd prefer Josh stay due to his length.


Yes. There's going to be non-contributing players at the end of the bench regardless.
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Jay Bee

Quote from: The Sultan on Today at 08:11:45 AMBut there aren't room for walk ons post House. There are 15 roster spots and Shaka is filling out all 15 scholarships.

#FakeNews #Lies

However, I'm ignorant as to what will go on past this year - does anyone here know (not think, but know with a high level of confidence)?

There was an exception provided this year.. obviously we do have walk-ons on our roster. I don't know if guys get grandfathered in for the rest of their five year clock, or if it's just this year and then they are kicked to the curb -- anyone know the implementation provisions here?

Can the old walk-ons become simply practice players? They practice with the team, but don't dress, can't play, etc.. they are just dudes that show up to practice with the team.. I suppose similar to what you see with some girl's teams.. maybe we call them managers... instead of walk-ons, and the days of them making an appearance at the end of a rout are gone (not an issue for MU, hey)?
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romey

Quote from: Jay Bee on Today at 10:29:48 AM#FakeNews #Lies

However, I'm ignorant as to what will go on past this year - does anyone here know (not think, but know with a high level of confidence)?

There was an exception provided this year.. obviously we do have walk-ons on our roster. I don't know if guys get grandfathered in for the rest of their five year clock, or if it's just this year and then they are kicked to the curb -- anyone know the implementation provisions here?

Can the old walk-ons become simply practice players? They practice with the team, but don't dress, can't play, etc.. they are just dudes that show up to practice with the team.. I suppose similar to what you see with some girl's teams.. maybe we call them managers... instead of walk-ons, and the days of them making an appearance at the end of a rout are gone (not an issue for MU, hey)?

At the risk of derailing the thread (why not, it seems the norm) our walk-ons this year have played a combined 2 1/2 minutes.  A reflection of how poorly we've played?  They are not scholarship players by definition. Next year do we have 15 scholarship players AND walk-ons?  Or have I missed something about walk-ons not being allowed with the expansion of rosters?

Jay Bee

Quote from: romey on Today at 10:42:15 AMAt the risk of derailing the thread (why not, it seems the norm) our walk-ons this year have played a combined 2 1/2 minutes.  A reflection of how poorly we've played?  They are not scholarship players by definition. Next year do we have 15 scholarship players AND walk-ons?  Or have I missed something about walk-ons not being allowed with the expansion of rosters?

I think you missed something, but again this is a RARE instance where my ignorance level is high. The scholarship limits were INCREASED to 15; however, a roster limit of that same amount was introduced, with some exceptions. So, I think soon, there are no walk-ons that can participate in games. You're maxed out at 15 and they are all on scholarship.
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Small Orange Soda

Quote from: panda on Today at 10:02:21 AMShaka staring at Caedin next year after *hopefully bringing in many capable upgrades



Right, which is why of everyone on the roster, he needs to go. I don't think we're seeing anything less than what was expected of Tre, but we are of Caedin. And for the second year in a row.

wadesworld

Caedin is only ever playing when Gold or Royce get into foul trouble. It's either him or Josh that need to come in. He's otherwise been glued to the bench since Royce replaced him in the starting lineup.

Small Orange Soda

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Quote from: wadesworld on Today at 11:28:31 AMCaedin is only ever playing when Gold or Royce get into foul trouble. It's either him or Josh that need to come in. He's otherwise been glued to the bench since Royce replaced him in the starting lineup.

He was glued to the bench last year after it was clear he didn't have the stuff to play and yet this year he began the year in the starting lineup. The staff's evaluation of him is a problem.

BCHoopster

Trying to figure out, how a staff watches the video of his games, they do not see what the scoopers see?

Jay Bee

Quote from: wadesworld on Today at 11:28:31 AMCaedin is only ever playing when Gold or Royce get into foul trouble. It's either him or Josh that need to come in. He's otherwise been glued to the bench since Royce replaced him in the starting lineup.

#FakeNews #Lies

Last game: 16:01 on the clock, 18 comes in off the bench. Royce and Ben with zero fouls. Stays in for two minutes. He's still part of the regular rotation, though it's muted.
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Pakuni

Quote from: Small Orange Soda on Today at 11:33:30 AMHe was glued to the bench last year after it was clear he didn't have the stuff to play and yet this year he began the year in the starting lineup. The staff's evaluation of him is a problem.

He's a stud in practice, or so I've been told.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: panda on Today at 07:38:21 AMNext year is make or break for Shaka.

It really isn't. If we get back to the tournament while retaining the core that's fine. It's not "we need a 2 seed again or he's gone!"

Quote from: #UnleashJosh on Today at 09:46:11 AMAfter one bad season scoop is back to wanting nothing more then mediocrity.

Weve got at least one poster saying he would welcome caedin and trey back.

Its like the wojo years up in here.

First, this isn't a "bad season" this is a historically bad season. You'd need to go back to when my wife's parents were in college (arguably need to go to back to when my wife's grandparents were in school) to find a season this bad. Let's quit minimizing it as just a "bad season" that was what 2013/14 was, this is miserable.

Second, I don't want mediocrity. I want a strategy. If our plan is setting up for a huge season two years down, then I'm ok with a 7-11 seed next year. Just plug a few pieces to get us over the hump. If the plan is now win as much as possible immediately then time to get as many stars as possible.
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#UnleashJosh

Quote from: Galway Eagle on Today at 12:32:00 PMIt really isn't. If we get back to the tournament while retaining the core that's fine. It's not "we need a 2 seed again or he's gone!"

First, this isn't a "bad season" this is a historically bad season. You'd need to go back to when my wife's parents were in college (arguably need to go to back to when my wife's grandparents were in school) to find a season this bad. Let's quit minimizing it as just a "bad season" that was what 2013/14 was, this is miserable.

Second, I don't want mediocrity. I want a strategy. If our plan is setting up for a huge season two years down, then I'm ok with a 7-11 seed next year. Just plug a few pieces to get us over the hump. If the plan is now win as much as possible immediately then time to get as many stars as possible.

Any season where marquette isn't competitive is a bad a season. It doesn't matter how bad, 10-20 5-25 13-19 15-15? The goal every year should be being an ncaa tournament team. Anything lower than being on the realistic bubble is an objective failure. It doesn't matter how hard one fails.

Shaka tried something, it clearly didn't work. He gets a one season pass for the rapidly changing college atmosphere and the attempt at rgv.

Its time to rid ourselves of this sentiment, its clearly not sustainable.

This includes cutting the fat. Players like Trey who can barely find time off the bench, people like caedin who don't belong in D1 basketball, Josh gets a 2nd chance to ball.

Keeping players (and paying them) who clearly don't belong in major D1 basketball to stay on the end of the bench of 15 players is asinine.

These are nothing more then scholarshipped walk on with no hope or potential to make a difference.

If Shaka uses all 15, the end of the bench better be filled with young projects who would have a hope of being a difference maker in a couple years.

But people like sultan believe in "glue" guys.  ;D


panda

Quote from: Galway Eagle on Today at 12:32:00 PMIt really isn't. If we get back to the tournament while retaining the core that's fine. It's not "we need a 2 seed again or he's gone!"

First, this isn't a "bad season" this is a historically bad season. You'd need to go back to when my wife's parents were in college (arguably need to go to back to when my wife's grandparents were in school) to find a season this bad. Let's quit minimizing it as just a "bad season" that was what 2013/14 was, this is miserable.

Second, I don't want mediocrity. I want a strategy. If our plan is setting up for a huge season two years down, then I'm ok with a 7-11 seed next year. Just plug a few pieces to get us over the hump. If the plan is now win as much as possible immediately then time to get as many stars as possible.

Yes it is. That's not me saying it. That's coming from the folks who write the checks.

There is a reason there's been multiple public announcements of changes in philosophy.

If the results don't come with change, it's curtains.

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