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cheebs09

Quote from: brewcity77 on Today at 10:17:07 AMBasketball will always be first. It will never be first at Michigan. There's also a double edged sword to the Big 10 of it all. In the ACC, a quality UNC program will really only have 1-2 other teams that might be on their level. In the Big 10, you could have a great team and still be fifth or sixth in the league. (See sixth place Purdue this year)

That sixth place team was still able to earn a 2 seed.

Zog from Margo

It is an interesting discussion. Time changes all. Based on titles, UCLA is the greatest program. Based on dominance over consecutive years, again it is easily UCLA. Ten titles over twelve years.  Duke and UNC were the great beneficiaries of ESPN and Vitale. UConn is actually the best program over the last 15 years. The new portal era and paid players again changes all. I do not see UNC or Duke as having any great advantage over Michigan or Arizona but I'm not sure how Lloyd or May sees it. The ACC is a shaky conference.

The Sultan

Quote from: Pakuni on Today at 10:21:35 AMWhat are you considering "meaningful" here?
We can start with financial support. Michigan directs about 75% of its revenue-sharing funds to football, with the rest divided among other sports (though presumably a majority of the rest going to hoops).

Football sells out a 107,000-seat stadium - with attendance usually above capacity - while basketball doesn't sell out every game in a 12,700-seat arena.

They just gave Kyle Whittingham $8.2 million to coach the football team. Dusty May makes $5.1 million.
Are these things meaningful?

I didn't say anything contrary to this.
Saying Chicago is a Bears town doesn't mean people don't care about the Cubs.


Of course more NIL is going toward football. There are more football players than basketball players. "Meaningful" means they have the resources to attract and retain a quality team - which they clearly do right.

Furthermore, do you think that if Michigan didn't care about football that Dusty May would be making $8 million? BB is making $10 million a year coaching football at UNC. Zero chance that Lloyd or May make more than that.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

The Sultan

Quote from: brewcity77 on Today at 10:27:54 AMFor some individuals, it won't. For others, it will and may be a big deal. If you want to be the BMOC, you can't do that if your job isn't perceived as the most important one on campus. Plenty of coaches seem to relish not being in that limelight while others need it. But acting like it's inconsequential is a bit silly, IMO.

But being viewed as the BMOC is completely logical? Give me a break.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

brewcity77

Quote from: cheebs09 on Today at 10:28:08 AMThat sixth place team was still able to earn a 2 seed.

Sure, but teams 2-5 earned lower seeds. Iowa was top-25 in kenpom but given a 9-seed. If you use kenpom as the primary quality metric, only Wisconsin was seeded ahead of their ranking (5-seed at #22). In the ACC, 5/8 teams were seeded higher than their metric rank.

It depends on what you want, but it's a lot easier to get lost in the shuffle of a league like the B10.

brewcity77

Quote from: The Sultan on Today at 10:31:30 AMBut being viewed as the BMOC is completely logical? Give me a break.

So you don't think human ego exists? More notably, you don't believe it exists among people who are the highest achieving in their field? Give me a break.

onepost

Nevada to Siena

Uncle Rico

Quote from: brewcity77 on Today at 10:34:35 AMSo you don't think human ego exists? More notably, you don't believe it exists among people who are the highest achieving in their field? Give me a break.

It's entirely possible UNC isn't in the ACC in the very near future
If you're still mad about a nickname, examine your life

Galway Eagle

Quote from: onepost on Today at 10:36:00 AMNevada to Siena

How does he feel about the station of Michigan's vs UNC's basketball program within the university?
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

The Sultan

Quote from: brewcity77 on Today at 10:34:35 AMSo you don't think human ego exists? More notably, you don't believe it exists among people who are the highest achieving in their field? Give me a break.


I think it is pretty far down on the lists of priorities for most people.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Pakuni

Quote from: The Sultan on Today at 10:30:21 AMOf course more NIL is going toward football. There are more football players than basketball players. "Meaningful" means they have the resources to attract and retain a quality team - which they clearly do right.

Furthermore, do you think that if Michigan didn't care about football that Dusty May would be making $8 million? BB is making $10 million a year coaching football at UNC. Zero chance that Lloyd or May make more than that.


The Sultan

Quote from: Pakuni on Today at 10:52:35 AM


Nope. I'm responding directly to your (very poorly thought out) points.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Billy Hoyle

"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

cheebs09

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on Today at 11:20:00 AMformer MU assistant Kyle Green is the new HC at Northern Iowa:

https://hoopdirt.com/green-named-head-basketball-coach-at-northern-iowa/

Looks like a good hire for them. Lots of experience both at UNI and under some good coaches.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: cheebs09 on Today at 11:35:52 AMLooks like a good hire for them. Lots of experience both at UNI and under some good coaches.

Ugh, a Crean assistant.  Crean ruined Marquette.
If you're still mad about a nickname, examine your life

cheebs09

Quote from: Uncle Rico on Today at 11:59:56 AMUgh, a Crean assistant.  Crean ruined Marquette.

The year he was here, MU went to the NIT. Is it going to be UNI-T?

Uncle Rico

Quote from: cheebs09 on Today at 12:10:38 PMThe year he was here, MU went to the NIT. Is it going to be UNI-T?

That's probably the best they could hope for.  And he'll be going up against the "NIT Prince", Brian Wardle.  Good luck to Panther fans
If you're still mad about a nickname, examine your life


Billy Hoyle

"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass


Billy Hoyle

Quote from: The Sultan on Today at 01:43:45 PMLOL...he was there one year.

Some guys are excited to get an HC job. He said their collective only had money for three recruits, and he had to rebuild the entire roster. It's not uncommon for these low-major school to promise candidates and not deliver when the guy is hired.

Super smart guy - he graduated from Columbia in 5 semesters while serving as the basketball manager. 
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

The Sultan

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on Today at 01:47:43 PMSome guys are excited to get an HC job. He said their collective only had money for three recruits, and he had to rebuild the entire roster. It's not uncommon for these low-major school to promise candidates and not deliver when the guy is hired.

Super smart guy - he graduated from Columbia in 5 semesters while serving as the basketball manager. 


I don't care that he's leaving, just that the entire quote makes himself sound like he is a long-term legend or something.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

JWags85

I like that his Wikipedia pic somehow looks like it's a screenshot from NCAA2K

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Andrzejek

cheebs09

Quote from: JWags85 on Today at 02:34:56 PMI like that his Wikipedia pic somehow looks like it's a screenshot from NCAA2K

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Andrzejek

Roll Humps is a pretty iconic sign-off too.

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