Our Future

[The Sultan]

You're right in that I've been a big defender of Shaka this season.  Particularly against the faction of Scoopers that have suggested he should be on the hot seat and or fired if he had another down year next year. 

It's not about what anyone thinks. Shaka WILL be on the hot seat heading into next year unless he really kicks it into high gear down the stretch. If he has another year next year like this one, he will be fired.

Now, I don't think that's going to happen. He's figured out what he should have been doing from the beginning.

I've said there is nothing Shaka could do to course correct the team this season - so I wasn't going to throw the guy under the bus - especially with what he's accomplished at MU in his first 4 years.

Why are you letting him off the hook for this season?

[Pakuni]

I was at the game today and it was the first I noticed Hamilton not having fun this year.

Normally he's smiling, laughing, having a good time. He genuinely looked miserable out there. I don't think he's having fun in his situation anymore.

Getting put on a poster can be a buzzkill.

[panda]

I was at the game today and it was the first I noticed Hamilton not having fun this year.

Normally he's smiling, laughing, having a good time. He genuinely looked miserable out there. I don't think he's having fun in his situation anymore.

It must've been the hook shot he air-balled 2 feet away from the hoop.

[muwarrior69]

It's not about what anyone thinks. Shaka WILL be on the hot seat heading into next year unless he really kicks it into high gear down the stretch. If he has another year next year like this one, he will be fired.

Now, I don't think that's going to happen. He's figured out what he should have been doing from the beginning.



Why are you letting him off the hook for this season?

With 15 Scholarships I can live with keeping Tre, but it is time for Sean, who should have earned his degree this coming spring, and Hamilton to move on.

Will Marquette hire a GM?

[wadesworld]

With 15 Scholarships I can live with keeping Tre, but it is time for Sean, who should have earned his degree this coming spring, and Hamilton to move on.

Will Marquette hire a GM?

Broeker will be gone if they don't.

[Billy Hoyle]

It must've been the hook shot he air-balled 2 feet away from the hoop.

I guess he should have shot 10001 hook shots during the summer, eh?

[Elonsmusk]

It's not about what anyone thinks. Shaka WILL be on the hot seat heading into next year unless he really kicks it into high gear down the stretch. If he has another year next year like this one, he will be fired.

Now, I don't think that's going to happen. He's figured out what he should have been doing from the beginning.



Why are you letting him off the hook for this season?

I assume you forgot to apply the teal?

[The Sultan]

I assume you forgot to apply the teal?

Your weak non-answer is noted. Grant you it was expected...but noted nevertheless.

[Pakuni]

I assume you forgot to apply the teal?

Tough break for Shaka last night. Seth Trimble's shot may keep him from getting the UNC job this spring. There's still hope Self could retire.

[Scoop Snoop]

Tough break for Shaka last night. Seth Trimble's shot may keep him from getting the UNC job this spring. There's still hope Self could retire.

Shows how much you know! Few is retiring and Shaka will be announced as the new coach when Gonzaga gets KO'd in the tourney. The deal was signed over a month ago.

[Billy Hoyle]

Shows how much you know! Few is retiring and Shaka will be announced as the new coach when Gonzaga gets KO'd in the tourney. The deal was signed over a month ago.

Shows how much you know! Shaka is going to be the HC at UNC, Pitt, and Kentucky, that way he can use the Portal while still holding on to RGV as he'll just shuffle players between those programs yearly. 

[Scoop Snoop]

Shows how much you know! Shaka is going to be the HC at UNC, Pitt, and Kentucky, that way he can use the Portal while still holding on to RGV as he'll just shuffle players between those programs yearly. 

White flag. You got me!

[Elonsmusk]

Your weak non-answer is noted. Grant you it was expected...but noted nevertheless.

Your dumb original post was noted, and expected.  Hey, due to one bad season, let's put Shaka on the hot seat for going NCAA 4 of our 5 years, a Big East regular season and conference championship, two Number 2 seeds, 3 NCAA tournament wins in 4 years - walking into a program that hadn't won an NCAA game in 10 years - all because he's had 1 down year (albeit with an All Big East First or Second Team, freshman PG).

You, Pakuni, Brewcity, ScoopSnoop, Billy Hoyle are some real gems - preached patience and backed Wojo for 5 years but want Shaka on the hot seat for 1 bad year. And of course Wojo didn't have to navigate good players getting $1M/ season, and managing a roster budget.

[MU82]

I legit like Shaka so I don't "want" him to be on the hot seat for "one bad year."

However ...

Given basketball's current climate and the speed at which programs can be rebuilt, I do believe that this catastrophic season will result in him being on the proverbial hot seat going into next season in the minds of those who actually matter.

Ners and others might think that unfair, while some believe Shaka should be fired the minute this season ends. Hell, Farley called for him to be fired after Year 1.

[Scoop Snoop]

And here we go again with the "one bad season" BS that was in the making for 4 years. What happened to "the players are to blame" thread? Seems to have disappeared.

Trying to connect Shaka's tremendous success in previous seasons to counterbalance and absolve his "RGV errors" is disingenuous. Assuming that I (and probably others, but they can speak for themselves) am anti-Shaka is laughable. I want the original version back, (not the Kumbaya one) the one whose very impressive accomplishments you keep repeating over and over again. Thanks, but we all know about them. Your constant repetition makes you, not us, look very foolish. We are not "off the rails" like you posted in a reply to Brew, but the wild accusations in some of your many posts support my belief that they are an example of projection in your "off the rails" rant.

But I would be remiss if I did not thank you for adding my name to your list of Pakuni, Brewcity, and Billy Hoyle. I'm flattered to be included in such good company.       

[The Sultan]

Your dumb original post was noted, and expected.  Hey, due to one bad season, let's put Shaka on the hot seat for going NCAA 4 of our 5 years, a Big East regular season and conference championship, two Number 2 seeds, 3 NCAA tournament wins in 4 years - walking into a program that hadn't won an NCAA game in 10 years - all because he's had 1 down year (albeit with an All Big East First or Second Team, freshman PG).

Do you know now to read? I'm not putting him on the hot seat! He is putting himself there because of this season's performance. I hope he finishes out this year strong and kicks a$$ next season. But another season like this and he might be gone. We haven't had a season this bad in a LONG time.

You, Pakuni, Brewcity, ScoopSnoop, Billy Hoyle are some real gems - preached patience and backed Wojo for 5 years but want Shaka on the hot seat for 1 bad year. And of course Wojo didn't have to navigate good players getting $1M/ season, and managing a roster budget.

??? I don't want Shaka on the hot seat. What makes you think I want that?

And why do you keep bringing up Wojo? Anyway, you know that NONE of Wojo's teams ranked lower on KenPom than this one right?

Anyway, my suggestion for you is to actually read what I am writing - and not what you THINK I'm writing.

[Scoop Snoop]

Anyway, my suggestion for you is to actually read what I am writing - and not what you THINK I'm writing.

Somebody had to take over for Lenny.

[brewcity77]

Your dumb original post was noted, and expected. 

Why am I not surprised that your wittiest retort is "I know you are but what am I?"

[PointWarrior]

cool, I was not aware we live in a world where Walmart greeters get the call the shots on when to call their career over.  Seems like a great comparison to athletes who miss a 2 foot shot by 4 feet but still get paid 6 figures.

Athletes across the spectrum get to choose whether they stay, retire, how they want to go out.    Not every athlete every time, certainly.  But plenty.

Then there are actors, singers, politicians, greeter at Wal-mart.

Many employees keep working past when they should retire in order to boost their retirement.

So, lots of people.

[Pakuni]

And of course Wojo didn't have to navigate good players getting $1M/ season, and managing a roster budget.

Full circle moment.
This is why Shaka needs a GM.

[wadesworld]

And here we go again with the "one bad season" BS that was in the making for 4 years. What happened to "the players are to blame" thread? Seems to have disappeared.

Trying to connect Shaka's tremendous success in previous seasons to counterbalance and absolve his "RGV errors" is disingenuous. Assuming that I (and probably others, but they can speak for themselves) am anti-Shaka is laughable. I want the original version back, (not the Kumbaya one) the one whose very impressive accomplishments you keep repeating over and over again. Thanks, but we all know about them. Your constant repetition makes you, not us, look very foolish. We are not "off the rails" like you posted in a reply to Brew, but the wild accusations in some of your many posts support my belief that they are an example of projection in your "off the rails" rant.

But I would be remiss if I did not thank you for adding my name to your list of Pakuni, Brewcity, and Billy Hoyle. I'm flattered to be included in such good company.       

It's one bad year. The last 4 years have been varying levels of good to great. That's just a fact. People can't preach "it takes one offseason to rebuild in this day and age, so one down year is the leash," and then talk about how this is somehow 4 bad years.

Whether he should be on the hot seat next season probably depends on how the rest of this season and this offseason goes. And how you define "hot seat." If "hot seat" means Tourney or he's out, I don't know that I'd agree with that. If it means "another season hanging below a top 100 KP team" then sure.

[Scoop Snoop]

It's one bad year. The last 4 years have been varying levels of good to great. That's just a fact. People can't preach "it takes one offseason to rebuild in this day and age, so one down year is the leash," and then talk about how this is somehow 4 bad years.

I was referring specifically to the recruits starting 4 years ago who comprise this year's "one bad year". I should have been clearer. I had faith in Shaka's ability to build a solid team that would be able to take over post Kolek. Oso, Stevie and Kam. That faith vanished with what we see this year, but it started 4 years ago. Ben has had his good games, Chase looked really good until the BE games this year, but gambling on Hamilton and not going to the portal when I believe he should have acknowledged-at least to himself-that he had players who were not working out, and he needed to go to the portal. Right up until the first game, we heard happy talk.

I want to see Shaka go back to the coaching style he had that was so successful. And that requires showing the poor performers the door to make room for transfers. Leaving the decision to stay or go up to the player is, in my opinion, a huge mistake. Not saying that he will, but it could happen.

Let's hope the original version of Shaka reappears. But criticizing him for this year's team is, I believe, fair and should not be put into a Doddsian blender with his successes. There were/are two different M.O.s involved.

[Scoop Snoop]

NM

[tower912]

Quoting yourself in back to back posts?  Kind of dentist of you.

[Scoop Snoop]

Damn it Tower, now I am really screwed up. And it's all your fault