Our Future

[Small Orange Soda]

This is absolutely true. Anybody who thinks people don't keep their job when they're not performing well in this world are dreaming.

Your attitude seems to be, 'well other people/organizations make bad decisions, so who cares if Marquette does too'

[brewcity77]

Those are also the two programs who have been head and shoulders the best programs and absolutely carried the conference since the New Big East was formed, and the third has head and shoulders the most money in the conference to use on its roster.

A professional organization can act like a professional organization, or it can act like it's stuck in the past. If it does the latter the athletic director should be fired. Period.

Every pro team has a General Manager, aside from the Dallas Mavericks (interim GM), the Minnesota Vikings (currently looking to hire), & the Tampa Bay Rays (team of assistant GMs). There's no excuse for professional NCAA teams not having the same.

[Pakuni]

Athletes across the spectrum get to choose whether they stay, retire, how they want to go out.    Not every athlete every time, certainly.  But plenty.

Then there are actors, singers, politicians, greeter at Wal-mart.

Many employees keep working past when they should retire in order to boost their retirement.

So, lots of people.

NFL GM: You know, you've spent most of the last three seasons on IR, and even when you do get on the field, you're one of the worst players in the league. We're going to have to release you.

Player: Nah, I'm staying.

GM: OK. Your call.

[Pakuni]

This is absolutely true. Anybody who thinks people don't keep their job when they're not performing well in this world are dreaming.

Is this something that happens at well-run, successful organizations?

[MurphysTillClose]

It should be his decision.

No it shouldn't.

[wadesworld]

Is this something that happens at well-run, successful organizations?

Yes? You seriously have never worked at a good organization but had coworkers who are lazy and just skate by?

I'm all for having Tre and Caedin move on. But if we're going to talk "real world" let's be real about the real world.

[Elonsmusk]

I worry that convincing home wins against short-handed Creighton and Butler squads will convince Shaka RGV is working, nothing needs to change, and he'll go find Cadin/Clark 2.0 in the summer to fill Zaide's scholarship.

Nice troll.

[Small Orange Soda]

Nice troll.

What exactly do you think he will do then? Because while I disagree with Billy, he's just saying Shaka will keep doing what he's doing, which you've loudly defended.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Sean not playing again this season seems likely at this point.

If that happens, what are the chances he can get another year of eligibility?

With Nigel entrenched for 30+ MPG next season, it makes all the sense in the world for Sean to move on, especially if he can get another year on top of next season.

[Pakuni]

Yes? You seriously have never worked at a good organization but had coworkers who are lazy and just skate by?

I'm all for having Tre and Caedin move on. But if we're going to talk "real world" let's be real about the real world.

I've been around plenty of organizations in which some people work harder or more effectively than others, or simply are more talented.
Never been around one in which a person incapable of doing their job was nonetheless retained and compensated as if they were.

[PointWarrior]

With tower's philosophy, Bob Dukiet would have coached up until his passing. 

Imagine any other workplace where an employee incapable of doing the job gets to decide whether or not he/she gets to continue collecting a full paycheck.

[tower912]

Dukiet lost the team, recruited poorly, had players commit assault, become academically ineligible.   He was the nadir of MU basketball. 

Is this what your hatred of MU has come to?    Prayers up for you.

[muwarrior69]

None of us Scoopers are compensated for posting here, but some here did not meet the expectations of our Moderators to be productive Scoopers and were told to move on. So even here at Scoop we cannot expect that it is only our decision to leave.

[tower912]

Well, if Sean turns on his teammates and engages in anti-social, juvenile behavior he absolutely should be run.

[brewcity77]

Is this something that happens at well-run, successful organizations?

When roster spots are limited and keeping said player is detrimental to the team, no, this doesn't happen.

If Sean & Caedin are on the roster next year, Shaka isn't doing this job to the best of his ability.

[muwarrior69]

Dukiet lost the team, recruited poorly, had players commit assault, become academically ineligible.  He was the nadir of MU basketball. 

Is this what your hatred of MU has come to?    Prayers up for you.

...but Marquette should not have fired him, it should have been his decision to leave, no? I don't hate Marquette, but when players are given 2-3 years and not performing it's time for them to go too, no?

[GoldenEagles03]

I was at the game today and it was the first I noticed Hamilton not having fun this year.

Normally he's smiling, laughing, having a good time. He genuinely looked miserable out there. I don't think he's having fun in his situation anymore.

[PointWarrior]

He has a big decision to make whether he wants to stay or leave. 

I was at the game today and it was the first I noticed Hamilton not having fun this year.

Normally he's smiling, laughing, having a good time. He genuinely looked miserable out there. I don't think he's having fun in his situation anymore.

[GoldenEagles03]

He has a big decision to make whether he wants to stay or leave. 

Shaka should make that decision for him because it is painfully obvious and keeping him here to continue to struggle isn't fair for him either.

[MU86NC]

It should be his decision.

woke...

[tower912]

Thanks.  Nicest thing anybody has said to me all night.

[Johnny B]

Shaka should make that decision for him because it is painfully obvious and keeping him here to continue to struggle isn't fair for him either.

It's actually more than fair to him cause he making a hell of lot more here than he would at a swac school.

[Billy Hoyle]

I was at the game today and it was the first I noticed Hamilton not having fun this year.

Normally he's smiling, laughing, having a good time. He genuinely looked miserable out there. I don't think he's having fun in his situation anymore.

Im sure the rev share check he gets will put the smile back on his face.

[Elonsmusk]

What exactly do you think he will do then? Because while I disagree with Billy, he's just saying Shaka will keep doing what he's doing, which you've loudly defended.

You're right in that I've been a big defender of Shaka this season.  Particularly against the faction of Scoopers that have suggested he should be on the hot seat and or fired if he had another down year next year.  I've said there is nothing Shaka could do to course correct the team this season - so I wasn't going to throw the guy under the bus - especially with what he's accomplished at MU in his first 4 years.

I think Shaka will go after a player in the portal capable of coming in and being an immediate contributor to fill Zaide's spot.  I won't be mad if he renews Tre, Sean, and Caedin's scholarships - with the caveat that whatever NIL dollars have been allocated for those players gets rolled into bringing in an impact portal player.

He can be loyal to those kids who have been high character and hard working, yet also teach the real world lessen of compensation is tied to performance.  If any of Tre, Sean, or Caedin were to be upset by having their NIL substantially decreased and or eliminated and as a result transfered out - that in my view is the most honorable way to handle those kids.

[panda]

Athletes across the spectrum get to choose whether they stay, retire, how they want to go out.    Not every athlete every time, certainly.   But plenty.

Then there are actors, singers, politicians, greeter at Wal-mart.

Many employees keep working past when they should retire in order to boost their retirement.

So, lots of people.

Legends get to call their shots. Sean has played one full (mediocre) season here. It's best for both parties to move on.