Shaka Smart, if you read scoop...

[1SE]

Exactly. All year I've been saying my concerns are much more than just roster construction, but most people are still only on that. The truth is there have been mind-boggling coaching decisions throughout this season. It's wacky as eff and very concerning as we think about the future.

I think we're seeing that there was enough talent for this to have been a bubble team - just like we and everyone else thought - but that assumed the right lineups and solid in game coaching (remember when we used to be team second half? I wanted to punch Johnny Exclamation Point Fanta in the mouth and see how HE'D react every time he made some asinine cliche about SHs 2nd half prowess)

[GoldenEagles03]

This you?

Yes.

I don't know how many times this has to be said. This is an unserious board where unserious things are said in the heat of embarrassing disappointment.

Marquette is factually better off with Shaka getting his head out of the sand, than starting over with someone else. Will he? Is the question. We shall see. I don't have confidence in it, but I hope he does because he could probably have some pretty good seasons with Nigel James leading the team if he adds actually basketball players to the mix. It would be a shame not to. It would be a real shame.

I think this offseason is his last chance. If he doesn't use the portal and the team is uncompetitive again, he will be gone and I'm not sure why he's doing this to himself. Oh well I guess.

[GoldenEagles03]

Yes.

I don't know how many times this has to be said. This is an unserious board where unserious things are said in the heat of embarrassing disappointment.

Marquette is factually better off with Shaka getting his head out of the sand, than starting over with someone else. Will he? Is the question. We shall see. I don't have confidence in it, but I hope he does because he could probably have some pretty good seasons with Nigel James leading the team if he adds actually basketball players to the mix. It would be a shame not to. It would be a real shame.

I think this offseason is his last chance. If he doesn't use the portal and the team is uncompetitive again, he will be gone and I'm not sure why he's doing this to himself. Oh well I guess.

And even with all that being said if his plan is to not use the portal yet again, then yes, it is best we move on from him as soon as possible. We are better off if Shaka stays and uses the portal but if he is going to remain stubborn then we are better off ripping off the band aid and finding someone that will.

[muwarrior69]

While I am not as confident as you are regarding "ability to beat everyone but UCONN and St. Johns", I agree with your SH comments regarding talent. But rather than focusing on lack of experience, I see lack of confidence, intelligent decision making, ball movement, not knowing where teammates are, and the discipline that comes with a well-coached team.  The all-too-familiar deer in the headlights looks in yesterday's game once again were clearly present.

I wouldn't mind having Clark in a MU uniform. SH's inferior talent is 16-6 to our superior talent at 8-14.

[Scoop Snoop]

I wouldn't mind having Clark in a MU uniform.

Sure, but my point was that I do not think it was a talent disparity. I listed some other factors that I thought accounted for yet another blown chance at a W.

[BM1090]

While I am not as confident as you are regarding "ability to beat everyone but UCONN and St. Johns", I agree with your SH comments regarding talent. But rather than focusing on lack of experience, I see lack of confidence, intelligent decision making, ball movement, not knowing where teammates are, and the discipline that comes with a well-coached team.  The all-too-familiar deer in the headlights looks in yesterday's game once again were clearly present.

Don't you think that those things usually come with more experience?

Kam, TK, O Max, and Oso all took time there too. They just had more experienced, steady guys leading them on the court.

[Scoop Snoop]

Don't you think that those things usually come with more experience?

Kam, TK, O Max, and Oso all took time there too. They just had more experienced, steady guys leading them on the court.

Fair, but the extent/depth of the problems I listed seems deeper to me than it should be. And Ben and Chase? This is their final season. They have 8 more regular season games to show us what they can do.

[wadesworld]

I think we're seeing that there was enough talent for this to have been a bubble team - just like we and everyone else thought - but that assumed the right lineups and solid in game coaching (remember when we used to be team second half? I wanted to punch Johnny Exclamation Point Fanta in the mouth and see how HE'D react every time he made some asinine cliche about SHs 2nd half prowess)

A bubble team for what tournament? Maybe the NIT. There's not enough talent to be a bubble team, and Shaka completely missing on the junior class means that while we have roster continuity, all but 2 of the contributors are underclassmen who have very little experience at this level of basketball, so there was always going to be a learning curve even if the rotations were right from the start.

[muwarrior69]

Sure, but my point was that I do not think it was a talent disparity. I listed some other factors that I thought accounted for yet another blown chance at a W.

You did agree with Shooter that we have a better talented team than SH who beat us twice and has a winning record which is absurd. The only stat that matters are the Ws and Ls.

[Scoop Snoop]

You did agree with Shooter that we have a better talented team than SH who beat us twice and has a winning record which is absurd. The only stat that matters are the Ws and Ls.

And I said that that I thought there were other reasons for the loss and listed them. This time of year there are no cherries on the trees, so stop trying to pick them. That's absurd. 


But hey! You got the W/Ls right. Kudos!

[muwarrior69]

What's next? Forfeiting the remaining games? If an individual scooper wants to go "on hiatus", DO it! No need to close it down for any one scooper. 

Then no one should complain about repeating all the deficiencies of individual players, will the 26 class actually produce, the team in general, the coaching staff, the coach, and do we have the money to get the best HS recruits or players elsewhere. I repeat the off season cannot come soon enough to see where the program is headed.

[muwarrior69]

And I said that that I thought there were other reasons for the loss and listed them. This time of year there are no cherries on the trees, so stop trying to pick them. That's absurd. 


But hey! You got the W/Ls right. Kudos!

...but you were certainly picking them for why we lost.

[Scoop Snoop]

Then no one should complain about repeating all the deficiencies of individual players, will the 26 class actually produce, the team in general, the coaching staff, the coach, and do we have the money to get the best HS recruits or players elsewhere. I repeat the off season cannot come soon enough to see where the program is headed.

Repeating and asking questions are things you are very good at. Again-Kudos!

Your idea of going on a hiatus from scoop until things are clearer going forward in the off season is your best idea yet, but only for yourself.

[Scoop Snoop]

...but you were certainly picking them for why we lost.

How did you get to be the age you are and still not understand what "picking cherries" means? 

[muwarrior69]

How did you get to be the age you are and still not understand what "picking cherries" means? 

it also means picking the best reasons to make a point.